The fett in person

Just for those who dont know, or arnt at C4... the actual suit (the SE Fett or special edition with ROTJ body and ESB helmet) is here. No glass, no barriers. My self, Darth Miller, and Spidey Fett are on the case getting HUNDRED of hi res photos and yes, even bending the ruels to get some pics that havent been gotten before.

A few things to notice when we start posting is,

1. The chest diamond has the raised portion like we all belive it origonaly had, this may be a repair and I am waiting on a confrimation from the archivest that I talked to for confrimation. As they belive this isnt a repair, but rather something else.

2. The knee darts have 3 fine grooves in the end portion. This isnt in previous pics.

3. The cape acording to the archivest has been on display inside out in every exhibit. I am trying to get a specail photo to show the weathering...

4. the helmet has a battery pack with circut board and switch in it I never noticed.

We got close to this suit, like I said no glass, I will say this... we got to close... broke rules and it now has 3 security personel around it becase of me, but all for the sake of some good photos.

We will share all we have once we get them organized so stay tuened.

I will say this, all of our jump suits are under weathered by 1000%, our helmets need more over misting, and the red in person on the mandibles is almost brown with out flash photos. I plan to re work alot of my gear.

Evan

Can't wait to see pics! Thanks for your efforts!

Now there's a teaser post if ever there was one.

Did anyone stand on anyone else's shoulders to get a good top view?

Can't wait to see what you guys did.. I'm sure pics of you doing what you did to take these shots would be just as interesting..

Yeehhhaaa.. you are THE guys !!!

Amazing mates, I'm really dying to see those pics... amazing work guys really really great !!!!

Talk about dedication, these guys are all over it. I've seen a few of the photos and they are awesome. It's becoming ever more difficult not to begin a Boba.

Great stuff! Bring it on Fett brother. (is it later yet?)

Outstanding!!! Looking forward to seeing those images, especially without any glass between! In regard to the grooves on the knee darts, do you mean there are finer grooves in addition to the three rings we have previously seen on the darts at the AoSW (see attached pic)? If so, that would be a really cool find as we only knew about the three grooves at the tips! It is also awesome that you were able to see into the pack! We have been able to so that at MoM but never with the AoSW suit due to the glass! Again, great job guys! Can't wait to see the pics!

This is incredibly exciting news! I cannot wait to see those photos posted! Well done indeed!

The helmet is powered by small aa batteries that are in a harness attached by a 9v connector. The card (built on a breadboard about 2 inches wide) controls the timing of the LEDs no servos in this baby. The power switch appears in some of the ref cd's not sure if the card appears though. Yeah I would be curious to know about the grooves the only ones I knew about were the three Art pointed out above (Are there more?)

All the Best

Lee

Good stuff as the one that's currently in London could be from wherever then....?
I took lots of photos for you guys too, but what suit it actually is, who knows?

I took 250 pics with a 10x optical zoom. Myself Spideyfett and Evan4218 will be putting together a CD with all the pics for anyone who wants them in the future.

Originally Posted by evan4218

I took 250 pics with a 10x optical zoom. Myself Spideyfett and Evan4218 will be putting together a CD with all the pics for anyone who wants them in the future.

I can host them on a site so that we can all access them. That way they wouldn't only be available on a cd, that is if you were just planning on having them on a reference cd and not online at all.

Originally Posted by Mr Fett

But in that pic BB posted from AOSW, that was the left knee off one of the pre-pro suits. It wasn't an ROTJ knee anyway, so the ungrooved ones are more ROTJ accurate, correct?

Actually both knees of the AoSW/C4 suit had the grooved darts. The MoM suit has the ungrooved darts. If I recall correctly they aren't symmetrical grooves. I believe the front edge of the groove is perpendicular to the dart while the back edge is actually an angled cut. Evan, were there additional grooves or were these the grooves you were referring to?

BTW, here is the right AoSW knee.

Originally Posted by sl/tk8456

Good stuff as the one that's currently in London could be from wherever then....?
I took lots of photos for you guys too, but what suit it actually is, who knows?

I think the one in London would be the suit we commonly refer to as the MoM costume... an RotJ suit with the RotJ hero helmet.

Originally Posted by Rogue Studios

The power switch appears in some of the ref cd's not sure if the card appears though.

I don't believe the full card appears in any of the current ref cds as it is too far in the top of the helmet. There MIGHT be one pic of the inside of the ESB hero helmet that shows it, but I can't recall.

WOW!!! That should be quite an interesting set of photos!!!!! Can't wait to see em. I hope you got some pics of you in your suit next to the real one Evan. Since your suit is really top notch, it would be interesting to see the difference between the two, and see what else can be done to make an even more accurate suit!!!
D

What! ...I'M SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!!..can't..wait...Thanks SO much guys!

..Wish I was there to see this...

Evan4218 and myself took a few more photo's today with my camera. I think we have over 300 now. Also the 501st photo guy took over 300 pics with 12 mega pix $6000 camera...WOW...

I am going to give EVAN4218 my camera tonight and he will get all the pics on a disk.

Sadly I wasnt able to take any pics standing next to it. I had to send my tub back with Batninja who drove it down here on sunday morrning.

But I will write up a detailed compare and contrast. I took numorus non flash photos to help us get the colors on the jump suit and helmet better. Between my self and the 501st photographer, DM, Spidey and another fellow whos name escapes me we have about a thousand shots. By breaking some rules I got some there I am sure nobody else got as well as Spidey. So I hope they help... and yes Bracks... we have a shot of the board.

Originally Posted by evan4218

Sadly I wasnt able to take any pics standing next to it. I had to send my tub back with Batninja who drove it down here on sunday morrning.

But I will write up a detailed compare and contrast. I took numorus non flash photos to help us get the colors on the jump suit and helmet better. Between my self and the 501st photographer, DM, Spidey and another fellow whos name escapes me we have about a thousand shots. By breaking some rules I got some there I am sure nobody else got as well as Spidey. So I hope they help... and yes Bracks... we have a shot of the board.

Again, outstanding! Can't wait to see them!

Yup!!!!! Pretty exciting!!!! Glad they didn't haul you off to Jail Evan
D

I got a few pics taken in my armor next to the suit,
I asked the security chick if I could hop the barrier but she wouldn't allow it. Thanx alot guys!!!!
I'll leave it up to Andy to post them.
I don't think the Jumpsuit is screen used.
It's not the same as the One from FIDM
it looked purple to me too , but I din't really study it since it's not all ROTJ
We'll wait until evan & the guys gget the pics loaded to make a real decision

i can also offer web space... i've got a dreamhost account that i'm not using. 200 gigs of storage and 2tb of transfer a month. then there's my main hosting with 300 gigs / 3tb.

It was too funny watching DarthMiller, SpideyFett, and evan4218 bend in all sorts of positions for hours getting these different shots. DarthMiller wasn't satisfied with his camera's pics, so he went out the next day and bought a new one just to get better pics of Fett! These guys have tons of pics they'll share.

Spidey has one that will be just about the most unique to this site ever!

yes ...we have a secret SPIDEYFETT pic that is the single greatest pic ever in the history of TDH

it will be posted SOON!!!!

Originally Posted by MandalorFett

It was too funny watching DarthMiller, SpideyFett, and evan4218 bend in all sorts of positions for hours getting these different shots. DarthMiller wasn't satisfied with his camera's pics, so he went out the next day and bought a new one just to get better pics of Fett! These guys have tons of pics they'll share.

Spidey has one that will be just about the most unique to this site ever!

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

yes ...we have a secret SPIDEYFETT pic that is the single greatest pic ever in the history of TDH

it will be posted SOON!!!!

Hello?? Secret?? DUH...
I can't wait to post that one.....I'll do a separate thread for that one...

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

As Evan4218 already mentioned, they seem to have added a RAISED chest diamond center piece....from viewing the pics, as seen from Braks's pics, it's the same chest diamond from the original AOSW exhibit on the Ref CD, but again they seemed to have added the raised piece....pretty cool stuff.

**OOPS, correction.....just looked at the REF Pics ...and on the AOSW the raised piece is there....my bad....
Although we do have a better pic that does show how raised it really is..

I think it's easy to get AOSW and MOM confused....

AOSW= ESB hero helmet; and ROTJ suit. (or SE version)
MOM= ROTJ hero helmet; and ROTJ suit.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

**OOPS, correction.....just looked at the REF Pics ...and on the AOSW the raised piece is there....my bad....
Although we do have a better pic that does show how raised it really is..

The "better" part is what I am looking forward to! We have had good pics of this suit in the past but with all the guys at C4 that took pics, the better lighting, the lack of glass, and the better photography equipment used, I am betting we are going to see some of the best pics ever and who knows what all we might find! And isn't that what TDH is all about; going from good to great? Thanks for bringing our AoSW/C4 suit ref pics to the next level!

Thanks for spending so much time with it this weekend guys. I can't wait to see the fruits of your labor! It'll be nice to have highly detailed pics without the glass reflections in the way!

Beautiful opportunity and resource...you have now addicted to the blissful addiction of Fett....grrrrr! LOL...thanks guys!

Woooh... You guys are really really lucky... How I wish I could have gone to the c4... jsut to see that boba would worth every € spent there... My bad I couldnt go... (when there is no money... there is no money )...

Now, my only confort is to know that at least... I would be able to see the pics... thanks to all of you guys !!!

For that... THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!

and... please..... HURRY UP XDDDD I'm dying to see the pics... and off course, in the highest res. please pleasse !!! lol

Having seen the M.O.M. exhibit multiple times and then the excellent reference CDs from Braks of that exhibit, it's exciting to see a bunch of your guys got to take pics without the glass barrier that can normally cause reflections. I bow to you guys for your efforts in sharing another piece of the Boba Fett puzzle with the rest of us. :thumbup

This is a set of pics I'm in on getting !!!

~ Thanks in advance you prop maniacs -

Glad you didn"t get yourselves "pinched" in the process... 8)

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

The "better" part is what I am looking forward to! We have had good pics of this suit in the past but with all the guys at C4 that took pics, the better lighting, the lack of glass, and the better photography equipment used, I am betting we are going to see some of the best pics ever and who knows what all we might find! And isn't that what TDH is all about; going from good to great? Thanks for bringing our AoSW/C4 suit ref pics to the next level!

Yea I think the lack of glass allows everyone to see the true colors..which is what I was most interested in.
And Trust me, as Lee (R.S) and others have mentioned, the colors are WAY darker than what we all might think....

I think over all Britt (boba_fetts) will have the best pictures, as he had the best camera...(12 mea pixel with zoom lens)

Tambo Fett had a buddy on Friday that also will be sharing his photos, he had a 10 mega pixel camera....Thanks Tambo:thumbup

So looks like we will have unlimited resources when it comes to this exhibit..not to mention the VIDEO Mandalorfett took...

Thanks....will post pics later today! I promise.

We have a ton of 12 mega pixel shots that are going to blow you guys away. I will try to get them up after AdventureCon.

Will there be a new section added to the TDH reference archive for these new pics?
A "Celebration 2007" section maybe?
It might be easier to catalog the pics that way. Can't wait to see 'em!!!

Originally Posted by Tambo Fett

We have a ton of 12 mega pixel shots that are going to blow you guys away. I will try to get them up after AdventureCon.

AWESOME!! Thanks Tambo!:thumbup

To add a little bit to what Spidey got from the Archivest... I was luckey enough to meet with her as well, and asked many of the same questions. A few tid bits she shared with me that SF didnt mention are what they have in the archives that they use for these exhibits.

They have several crates with armor parts from ROTJ and some "Misilanious" peices as well. There are only enough peices to mix and match to make 2 full ROTJ body displays though. The raised part on the diamond is on some of the diamonds they have and missing on others. But there was never a repair. She didnt know why there were veriations on the knee darts with and with out the rings, but she did shed light on the fact that there are also multiple jumpsuits and acording to her the pants and top portion connect in the middle some how... but I have no proof to show how that works nor can I tell from looking at it.

The armor is attached with gromets (that may not be new but who cares) and I think the only chap who did there armor this way was Man Of War.

We did get several great shots of the board in side the helmet that Lee mentioned so I found that interesting. I am sure there are other things but I just cant think of them right now. Either way I feel lucky to have had the chance to talk to the one person whos job it is to keep my favorite costume safe and sound. I think the one pic I wish we had was the one of mine, Spideys, and DMs face when PredatorMV told us the Fett was at the con!

Hey guys, that was me (Britt, 501st Photographer) that was shooting. I shot about 4 gigs of 12 megapixel images with a 100-400mm L series zoom lens (which mean I could get super super detail and clarity and very very up close). I'll end up probably sending my photos via DVD to Art or someone who wants to put them up because I have a bazillion of other photos from other groups I have to detail with from C4.

Send em on and I will compile them. Make sure you send the pics from FIDM while you are at it!!!

Example shot... this is just a small section of a full size shot of the helmet. Just to give you all an idea of the detail.



Art, I also need to seen the California Science Center BlasTech EE-3 rifle photos.

Oh my.




BTW, thanks Britt for shooting the TDH group and all the up close Boba shots.

HOLY DENTS Batman! That is cool!

Holy ****!

Holey Moley!!!!!! If the rest of the pics are like that, then it is gonna be terrific!!! Outstanding!!! THankyou for sharing,
D

Can't wait to see the detail on the armour... Going to the exhibition in London v.soon and can't wait to take my own pics for reference... As a newbie won't have my Fett outfit ready in time

WOW...great stuff Britt!....thanks for taking all the awesome pics....

Here are a few that give you an Idea of what kind of lighting we had to work with in the exhibit, with no flash and no addtional lighting source......also keep in mind these are scaled down to fit this board, so we'll post the higher-res ones later...

to me, this is what it actually looked like in the exhibit...in terms of lighting.

Enjoy..

Pay special attention to the red brown color of the jumpsuit. That is what it is, no adjustment to color or lighting needed. Its quite dark.

Nice shots... gives me an idea of lighting to work with? will boro a mates camera to take my pics... I'm scratch building my ESB lid from WOF's templates and just about to start airbrushing...... Really hope to get finished to have Boba sign it himself!

Anyone any idea how I can post pics of my build as would welcome comments?

Seems that I will need to weather my jumpsuit a load more then originally expected?! GGrrrrr more paint. lol

Is there anything I can particularly look out for that ppl may have missed?

Originally Posted by MOJO-FETT

Is there anything I can particularly look out for that ppl may have missed?

Missed? As in details? Colors??? Elaborate on that. The big issue is there are multiple versions of armor and soft goods that we have been using on our costume. I think it is best to just pic one exhibit and base it off of that and the pics of that stop to ensure the details are correct.

Thanks Evan... as mentioned I'm a newbie and I think your right, I've tried looking at all aspects of all versions and have exhausted myself with detail? I'm trying to create the best ESB that I can? it's gonna be with the help and guidance of you uys to steer me in the right direction...

The AOSW and MOM jumpsuits never appeared to be exactly the same colors to me. I know one of our members here has been able to touch the ROTJ MOM jumpsuit and said they flipped open the thigh pouch and the completely un-weathered material inside was "ESB light blue". Now, the AOSW one has always appeared to have a more "purply hue" to it.....

Thanks for the heads up Mr Fett... I'll try to concentrate on one version and one version only!! lol
I know there is 50/50 split between ESB & ROTJ versions within this community (not gonna open that box).
But as stated any guidance now and in future will not fall no deaf ears.

I would believe it on the light blue... I didnt think to flip open the pouch though... but there are, like I said before, 5 ROTJ under-suits. Each has the ability to be different.

Hey, I think due to the dye type used this suit has seriously faded over time. Just something to consider if you're making a suit more close to the time of filming or today as it sits.

Congrats to everyone who went to C4. I wished my timing in the Military service was more...well...to my favor. I feel so jealous when I saw the first pics indicating that the Fett suit was on display....with NO GLASS around.

Kudos to everyone. I want a REF CD of those pics....add me to the list.

is his side pouch on his cod? I never noticed that before.

I am not sure where it is supose to attach but it is attached via velcro... I think it velcros behind the ammo belt or perhaps the vest.

Originally Posted by Mr Fett

The AOSW and MOM jumpsuits never appeared to be exactly the same colors to me. I know one of our members here has been able to touch the ROTJ MOM jumpsuit and said they flipped open the thigh pouch and the completely un-weathered material inside was "ESB light blue". Now, the AOSW one has always appeared to have a more "purply hue" to it.....

That "member" was me.
i flipped the flap at FIDM
It's Blue

Originally Posted by evan4218

I am not sure where it is supose to attach but it is attached via velcro... I think it velcros behind the ammo belt or perhaps the vest.

According to some of the pics I've seen I think it's connected to the Girth belt of all places???...I have pics...

again we'll post late late tonight...

Sound fantastic! Can't wait to see what you have in store for us.

Alan

Man, this is like waiting for Christmas to come when you're 7 years old, but better.

Here are some teasers of the diamond with the raised area. We have lots more coming, and are colaborating with Braks to make all pics in hi res available.

oh man...

I saw some of those pics on the camera. Can't wait to see them in high res! Thanks a bunch for doin' this work, fellers.

nice dust

now here's my big question... the primer is dry on my latest jet pack. should i hold out on painting until the pics show up (that is, any interesting jet pack shots?)

Originally Posted by webchief

nice dust

It's "canon".


Raised center diamond? Now you're gonna get everyone cutting out little rectangles of scrap plastic and gluing them in there to be more accurate I think.

Originally Posted by tk7602

now here's my big question... the primer is dry on my latest jet pack. should i hold out on painting until the pics show up (that is, any interesting jet pack shots?)

My wife was with me at the exhibit.
she said "that looks just like yours" when she saw the real deal.
so...
just paint it like mine, Michelle said so

Even, Spidey, and Darth Miller; I really do appreciate all of the pictures that you guys took of the SE suit, but I was extremely disappointed seeing it in person.

I don't know, I only looked at the suit for about 12 seconds and realised that members on the board have suits 100000% better than the original. Accuracy isn't really a problem anymore, I think it's the LFL archives who need to scope us out for accuracy and how to take care of their freakin' costumes. The thing was broken, gauntlets busted open, etc. I really didn't care.

i dunno... that's like saying that the Colosseum isn't worth studying since it's half fallen over.

even though the original is battered and falling apart, it's the still thing we're all[*] trying to copy

[*] at least all the rotj folks!

Originally Posted by tk7602

now here's my big question... the primer is dry on my latest jet pack. should i hold out on painting until the pics show up (that is, any interesting jet pack shots?)

Yep, there's some good jet pack info coming up too. Some of the seasoned members here may have seen some of the details before, but there were things I hadn't noticed previously.

Originally Posted by tk7602

i dunno... that's like saying that the Colosseum isn't worth studying since it's half fallen over.

That's true, but from a modern City Planner's point of view, if the building is dilapidated and inefficient, it should be removed.

Holy... Holy...

Wow.

Even though I'm going custom with mine, I still would like to be included in the hi-res pic list if a CD is put out.

I'm sorry guys, I'm just a little irritated because I get home to get yelled at by my parents for blah blah after a long trip, I lost my camera, and you guys don't want to here me whining.

I just feel the Fett suit wasn't at all taken care of after the films, especially the helmet that SE wears, it should have been taken care of much better.

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

I just feel the Fett suit wasn't at all taken care of after the films, especially the helmet that SE wears, it should have been taken care of much better.

The "SE" helmet was used by stuntmen during the filming of the ROTJ Sarlacc scenes. As with pretty much ALL movie stunt gear, they probably don't really care a whole lot about if they damage it or not, as long as it holds up for the shoot. They never imagined a society of crazed Fett fanatics (aka: TDH ) would care about matching up particular lines and scratches 20 years later on certain "old costume parts" (in hollywood thinking).

Some more photos to keep you all drooling... first, a little birdie told me to post two shots of the skull... per request. (these are again just sections of the larger images, and shrunk down slightly so they don't take forever to load)





Anyone have any idea what this is? It was under the left (Fett's left) chest piece. Someone thought it might be a electricity router.

Great pics Britt!

Any idea what that clip thing is under the armour? Perhaps that silver clip thing is what held armour on, but I can't think of any other reason for it to be there.

Here's the circuit board and switch mentioned in the very first post. This is in the helmet on the back right (Fett's right) side.

And one more, this time of the raised section of the chest armor.

Okay, I lied... one more. Did anyone notice this? Appears to be some sort of brass or copper looking bar that may go down the seam of the jet pack?

that bar on the jet pack makes me think of corner bead in drywall... metal edging that goes on outside corners, since if it was just plaster, it would crack super easily.

Man, no black scuff on the shoulder bell, well guess my costume is now mostly AOSW with MOM gauntlets and shoulder bells. Can't wait to see these pics. Really hoping for some good backplate pics, maybe under the cape?!?!

That edging on the jet pack looks almost like a long hinge. Bizarre.

As for the center chest diamond... there's an easy mod for once!

High res rules!!!!

This is all soo sweet! I have a request though, did anyone take shots of the vest sleeves? There is some intresting construction there which can barely be seen in some pictures. Like the grommet in the flightsuit sleeve to connect the shoulder armor through the vest and through the flightsuit too maybe? And the fact the the sewn lines on the outside of the vest sleeve fold under to the backside of the sleeve for only about an inch and then there is smooth fabric indicating that the sleeves are made more complexly than most know. Any good pictures of that stuff? I don't need someone to post them, just to confirm or deny they exsist.

Originally Posted by kbrosseau

This is all soo sweet! I have a request though, did anyone take shots of the vest sleeves? There is some intresting construction there which can barely be seen in some pictures. Like the grommet in the flightsuit sleeve to connect the shoulder armor through the vest and through the flightsuit too maybe? And the fact the the sewn lines on the outside of the vest sleeve fold under to the backside of the sleeve for only about an inch and then there is smooth fabric indicating that the sleeves are made more complexly than most know. Any good pictures of that stuff? I don't need someone to post them, just to confirm or deny they exsist.

they Exist...

Best photo we have ever seen of the skull sticker! I am sending it to a buddy of mine to make into a vector for any future use!

oops, said it through PM instead

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

they Exist...

:thumbup

I wasnt impressed, they didnt take care of the costume, and that is what did it for me.

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Best photo we have ever seen of the skull sticker! I am sending it to a buddy of mine to make into a vector for any future use!

Awesome Brak's!

For you non Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator people..."VECTOR" is so that we can all get some 100% accurate CRISP stickers made....amongst other things. ...Awesome!