Dented C-3PO - The Boba Fett Connection

Was just organizing some photos Seeker was kind enough to dump on me when I ran across this rather blurry photo of C-3PO at a recent exhibit and I immediately fell on the dent on 3PO's head. Now I have seen 3PO's dent before and it is just a smooth divet... but this one is different. This one is faceted, and it has two little "prongs" jutting out of the front just like.... I rushed over to my Boba ref and sure enough... it is Boba's dent in 3PO's head! I know some of you might think this pic is too blurry to know for sure, but I have checked it again and again... it IS Boba's dent! I am looking for better photos now, but I wanted to go ahead and get this out there (in case one of you have better photos) because this is just so cool! I don't know if this is an in-joke or just LFL reusing parts or what, but I think it is super cool to see!

That is some crazy info!!! Your new avatar is friggin sweet!

G-Fett

Is that a promo 3P0 suit?

I think we all now know where the ESB suit REALLY went...

Not sure. I know very little about 3PO... all I know is that this one was at an exhibit... but I am not even sure which one.

I mean the so claimed "disappearing ESB" Fett suit...

So the prop guys at Lucasfilm have some sort of magic stamp or hammer they can use to make exact dents in whatever objects they desire? Too cool for words.

Art, a really great find !

I think, TK409 must be really interested in this case as well and perhaps he might be able to solve this mistery...

I talked to him briefly about it tonight and sent the pic. What I really want to know is what 3PO head that is and where it was being exhibited. I have seen pics of the other dented 3PO head (with the smooth dent) and also at least one non-dented head at exhibits, but I haven't been able to nail this one down.

Originally Posted by Mr Fett

So the prop guys at Lucasfilm have some sort of magic stamp or hammer they can use to make exact dents in whatever objects they desire? Too cool for words.

I wish it were that simple. I honestly have no clue how it was done or which came first. My understanding is the dented 3PO is only seen in ANH but all the ref I see of it from the film appears to be the smooth dent. Maybe the head in the comparison shot is a tour head?

All I know is if this site has any integrity at all, there will be a place right up there in front with boba and jango, because 3po IS a dented helmet.
Sorry Zam, move down the bench.



I thought all the 3po suits LFL had were all screen used suits. No special promo ones. I know some of them have been refurbished over the years and only one was made with the dent in ANH. It survived along with at least another into ESB era.

Here's a screen cap from ANH showing it well. Not sure if it is the same as bobas, but the one in the exhibit sure looks like it is.



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If it is the same, I think there is a strong likelihood that 3po's dent from ANH was molded and individual casts were used for bobas.

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Maybe Jango wasn't really Boba's "father."

How do 3PO's dome dimensions match Boba's?

No chance.
3po's head is super small in comparison.
But as far as casting just the dent section and blending it into the fett helmets one by one, totally plausible.

Whoa, great find Art! Kinda hard to tell from that pic, but i think i can make it out. Very interesting.

Did anyone at LFL, in the prop department especially, have a big mole or birthmark or something in that same spot on their head? Could the location of the dent be an homage to someone or something. It seems to be too much of a coincidence that 3P0's dent is in the exact same place as Boba's. Especially if it turns out to be the same dent. Are there other characters with some sort of distinct mark in that location?

I was thinking maybe Gorbachev, but his birthmark is on the wrong side. It does look strikingly similar to and in a similar location to the big scratch above the catscratch on the ESB lid.

As similar as the dent in 3p0 in the very first pic looks in comparison to boba's dent, I feel that this is just a optical trick caused by the reflections and whatnot in the gold paint, only creating the "details" through relfections, rather then actual physical features

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

As similar as the dent in 3p0 in the very first pic looks in comparison to boba's dent, I feel that this is just a optical trick caused by the reflections and whatnot in the gold paint, only creating the "details" through relfections, rather then actual physical features

I can certainly see where you are coming from, but in my opinion, as you follow the shapes around the perimeter of the dent, you see features and facet after facet that matches the Fett dent. I am trying really hard to be objective, but I can't unsee it.

I'm not 100% convinced either way. More pics of the same helmet at the same tour would help. The multiple light sources reflecting in the dent makes it hard to tell one way or another, but I can definately see shape to the dent IN THIS PICTURE. If there's more out there I'm sure they will turn up.

I've always thought that the location of the 3PO dent was too close to Boba's to be coincidence though.

I am with you! I am dying to see more photos of this! Like you said, the light makes it very difficult to discern and a part of me wonders if it is only due to the odd angle of this photo that we can see the facets, and why no one else has pointed them out before (since most shots are taken from the front).

Originally Posted by ART ANDREWS

I am with you! I am dying to see more photos of this! Like you said, the light makes it very difficult to discern and a part of me wonders if it is only due to the odd angle of this photo that we can see the facets, and why no one else has pointed them out before (since most shots are taken from the front).

this is going to drive you mad all day, huh?

Do we know who took the photo? Was there more too it or did you crop it down? If that's all there was to it then the person who took it may have been specifically shooting the dent. Perhaps because it is shaped/faceted

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

this is going to drive you mad all day, huh?

It at least gives me something to do today since I'm bored at work and it's snowing so not much going on.

No lighting trickerie here.

boba dent al the way!

this 3po wad exhibited at the London Exhibition back in 2007

http://www.flickr.com/photos/caiour/2214005497/

That definately looks to be molded in!

You are just mean Darren... mean... mean.. mean...

Originally Posted by DW Design Studios

No, sorry. I think you guy's are all wrong. That dent was originally created by Art Ainsworth back in 1975. I have a rare photo to prove it.
Darren

Thats awesome. Now Andrew is going to take credit for that too

Man, I'm at work and can't see that picture....I have no idea what you are talking about

Here is a shot of the dented 3PO helmet laying with unfinished Fett parts....

I've seen that pic before and never gave it a second though. Very interesting...it's a small clue lol. It's hard to tell but the one on the left seems to have shape to the dent. Does the one on the right have a dent with a different shape/location?

Come on Art, you know you photoshopped those in just because you want to add Golden Drawers to our costume list here at TDH.

Originally Posted by webchief

Come on Art, you know you photoshopped those in just because you want to add Golden Drawers to our costume list here at TDH.

I was thinking Art could set up another website.
www.theGoldDentedHelmet.com

Darren

Originally Posted by webchief

Come on Art, you know you photoshopped those in just because you want to add Golden Drawers to our costume list here at TDH.

, Thats too funny.

Originally Posted by webchief

Come on Art, you know you photoshopped those in just because you want to add Golden Drawers to our costume list here at TDH.

Hahahahaha.... it is quite the coincidence and you aren't the first person to ask if I photoshopped it, but I didn't. It is what it is. I think the photo that Seeker posted is even MORE telling as you can see the tell-tale flat area extending out around the dent on 3PO's head before the head returns the the normal curvature... exactly as seen on the Fett helmets!

There has to be some connection there.

So the next question is.....Is it C-3po dent or boba's. What was sculpted 1st?

Originally Posted by Tim Allen

So the next question is.....Is it C-3po dent or boba's. What was sculpted 1st?

Thats a good question, did Boba steal 3PO's dent. Since he had it in Anh.

Originally Posted by DW Design Studios

That's awesome

I'm leaning to it being a "lighting" thing though. It really does look to have facets like Boba's in that first pic, but never having seen another other than those used on tour with a smooth crater, it's likely to me anyway that it's a trick of the pic It would be kind of cool though !

FP

**EDIT**

I didn't see the pic that Turo posted a few spots up from here That's what I get for not reading through all of the updated info since the last time I looked at this thread and wanted to post but didn't have time

Ok, so I'm a chooch. It is most definitely more compelling now !

FP