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    Jun 2, 2009, 9:23 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #51

    Quote Son of the Baptist said: View Post
    had to make it difficult lol
    LOL!
  2. Jun 3, 2009, 2:05 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #52

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    well it depends who is piloting and how many gunners
    well for the Falcon Han and Chewie as pilots with Anakin Skywalker and Wedge Antillies as gunners for star wars.....

    give it your best shot trekkie
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    Jun 3, 2009, 8:53 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #53

    Well the galaxy class enterprise has 12 x type phaser arrays and 3 proton torpedo launchers each capable of firing 10 at a time. It carries up to 250 torpedoes. Also a high capacity shield grid. You figure picard and riker as commanding officers and wolf and data on tactical.......
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    Sep 29, 2010, 5:12 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #54

    Haha that's awesome
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    Nov 17, 2010, 9:38 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #55

    does the star wars side get to use grand admiral thrawn?
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    Nov 17, 2010, 9:46 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #56

    LMAO you brought this back?
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    Nov 17, 2010, 9:54 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #57

    oh snap! how did this get flagged as new when i clicked new posts? at least it's not three years old.
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    Apr 27, 2012, 2:47 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #58

    Quote Son of the Baptist said: View Post
    well I've been loving the new Spike series Deadliest Warrior
    and i was thinking wouldn't it be cool if they did Star Wars and Star Trek

    or could it be done here on TDH?
    Much Like the Darth Maul vs. Darth Vader poll that being done.

    Rules:
    can use Movie / Book / Game info
    has to be even match ( no Slave 1 vs Spock)
    needs stats including weapons that will be used
    would be nice in match is done by rule of vote on the facts of each battle not just cause im a Star wars fan so im only gonna vote Star Wars
    and please follow TDH COC

    could Start by going ship vs ship

    Star Wars
    Executor



    Stats
    Length 19,000 meters

    Armament
    Turbolaser batteries 1,000+
    Concussion missile tubes
    Ion cannons
    Tractor beam projectors

    Complement
    TIE/ln starfighter wings
    All Terrain Armored Transports
    All Terrain Scout Transports
    Prefabricated garrison base
    Various other assault and support craft (total of 200)
    Various speeder bikes

    Crew 300,000

    Passengers Troops 38,000


    Anybody that knows Star Trek got a ship/fleet that can fight that?

    Actually, anything with shields, type x phasers (or better) and photon/quantum torpedo's would be able to defeat the SSD. Size has nothing to do with winning the battle. Lasers, even turbolasers would not penetrate the defensive shields around federation ships, even the older ones. Phasers and photon/quantum torpedos would easily penetrate the SSD's shields and hull plating...the problem would be, would they have enough to destroy the ship? The Enterprise D carries 250 torpedos, which if concentrated in the drive section could easily destroy the SSD. Even a ship as small as the Defiant could potentially defeat the SSD by taking out the bridge module. Sorry to break it to you but the Star Wars universe is just a little more advanced than the Battlestar Galactica universe...now there would be a fight, Battlestar Pegasus Vs. the SSD!
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    Apr 27, 2012, 5:07 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #59

    Nah there would be no contest. Vader would simply comm the commander and choke him to death via the force. And do the same for everyone else on the bridge. And size does in fact matter. A larger ship is going to be able to take much more damage to the hull than a smaller ship and be able to stay functional. Look at that photo of the size charts of the enterprise vs an SSD. Even a glancing blow from the SSD is going to vaporize the enterprise which is like a flea. I don't care about quantum missiles etc.... it's going to take MUCH more than they can hold to disable an SSD much less destroy it. Here's my reasoning....

    A spaceworthy ship is going to have a way to cut off every room from everywhere else in case that room gets opened into space. That way one hole doesn't suck the whole crew into space. So let's give the enterprise a fighting chance, they have 250 torpedoes. I can bet the SSD has more rooms than that, it probably has that just lining the hull alone. Even if they make one hole in each of these rooms, or maybe 250 holes in one room, they still won't have damaged the SSD enough to destroy it. The SSD would just seal off those rooms and keep going.

    Meanwhile the SSD is going to launching swarm upon swarm of bombers, fighters, interceptors, and other kinds of craft at them, all the while firing their own turbolaser batteries. They may be weaker, but the sheer amount of ordinance is going to overwhelm any superior shields and armor the enterprise may have. Even barring this, all the SSD has to do is seal off the rooms lining the bow of the SSD and ram the enterprise, who's shields wouldn't be able to cope with that kind of mass ramming them. and *poof* enterprise is gone.

    Like I said in the battle of SSD vs Enterprise, size is the be all end all. Add to that Vader's presence and soon you'll see Picard/Kirk choking to death before the enterprise explodes.
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    Apr 27, 2012, 5:45 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #60

    Quote mandosoldier said: View Post
    Nah there would be no contest. Vader would simply comm the commander and choke him to death via the force. And do the same for everyone else on the bridge. And size does in fact matter. A larger ship is going to be able to take much more damage to the hull than a smaller ship and be able to stay functional. Look at that photo of the size charts of the enterprise vs an SSD. Even a glancing blow from the SSD is going to vaporize the enterprise which is like a flea. I don't care about quantum missiles etc.... it's going to take MUCH more than they can hold to disable an SSD much less destroy it. Here's my reasoning....

    A spaceworthy ship is going to have a way to cut off every room from everywhere else in case that room gets opened into space. That way one hole doesn't suck the whole crew into space. So let's give the enterprise a fighting chance, they have 250 torpedoes. I can bet the SSD has more rooms than that, it probably has that just lining the hull alone. Even if they make one hole in each of these rooms, or maybe 250 holes in one room, they still won't have damaged the SSD enough to destroy it. The SSD would just seal off those rooms and keep going.

    Meanwhile the SSD is going to launching swarm upon swarm of bombers, fighters, interceptors, and other kinds of craft at them, all the while firing their own turbolaser batteries. They may be weaker, but the sheer amount of ordinance is going to overwhelm any superior shields and armor the enterprise may have. Even barring this, all the SSD has to do is seal off the rooms lining the bow of the SSD and ram the enterprise, who's shields wouldn't be able to cope with that kind of mass ramming them. and *poof* enterprise is gone.

    Like I said in the battle of SSD vs Enterprise, size is the be all end all. Add to that Vader's presence and soon you'll see Picard/Kirk choking to death before the enterprise explodes.

    That's OK.....because Q likes Picard...so Q would just make Vader, the Emperor and everyone else on the dark side of the force disappear....end of story.....As far as the size issue goes, all the Enterprise would have to do is burn a hole into the SSD with a continuous phaser blast and do a quantum torpedo chaser.....which would literally blow the SSD to pieces. Remember, a photon torpedo is equivalent to 64 megatons (the largest nuke we have to date delivers a 50 megaton explosion although most nukes are measured in kilotons, Hiroshima was only 15 kilotons). Keep in mind that quantum torpedos are at least twice as powerful as photon torpedos...so while Vader is choking Picard, Data is firing....bye, bye SSD!
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    Apr 27, 2012, 6:24 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #61

    Quote Son of the Baptist said: View Post
    well I've been loving the new Spike series Deadliest Warrior
    and i was thinking wouldn't it be cool if they did Star Wars and Star Trek

    or could it be done here on TDH?
    Much Like the Darth Maul vs. Darth Vader poll that being done.

    Rules:
    can use Movie / Book / Game info
    has to be even match ( no Slave 1 vs Spock)
    needs stats including weapons that will be used
    would be nice in match is done by rule of vote on the facts of each battle not just cause im a Star wars fan so im only gonna vote Star Wars
    and please follow TDH COC

    could Start by going ship vs ship

    Star Wars
    Executor



    Stats
    Length 19,000 meters

    Armament
    Turbolaser batteries 1,000+
    Concussion missile tubes
    Ion cannons
    Tractor beam projectors

    Complement
    TIE/ln starfighter wings
    All Terrain Armored Transports
    All Terrain Scout Transports
    Prefabricated garrison base
    Various other assault and support craft (total of 200)
    Various speeder bikes

    Crew 300,000

    Passengers Troops 38,000


    Anybody that knows Star Trek got a ship/fleet that can fight that?
    How about a match between the Super Star Destroyer Executor versus the Romulan mining ship Verada, from the new Star Trek movie?

    IDK the stats for the Verada, but it did take some made up energy to take her down. Should be an even match for the Executor, with Vader or Piett in command. Even let Vader use the force, and the Romulans with "red matter." Oh, yeah... the Romulans may (conjecturally) use transporters. We don't see their use in the movie, as I think the Verada is more of a heavy industrial miner-- not concerned with more precise ore extraction (like down speific veins of ore). It probably had the crew shuttled aboard, and there may have been some service shuttles to conduct repairs.

    And then theres the counter... the Executor, with it's swarms of T.I.E.s ( and all variants), regiments of stormtroopers and Imperial Army, and walkers (the Verada is large enough to have some storm the surface of the ship. Just the kind of suicidal battle plan Vader would order... with a disregard for the lives of his troops. He just wants the job done at all costs).
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    Apr 27, 2012, 11:33 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #62

    No matter the outcome, SPACEBALL ONE would destroy all!


    It would just turn into MEGA MAID!
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    Apr 28, 2012, 6:50 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #63

    Quote Wolf359 said: View Post
    That's OK.....because Q likes Picard...so Q would just make Vader, the Emperor and everyone else on the dark side of the force disappear....end of story.....As far as the size issue goes, all the Enterprise would have to do is burn a hole into the SSD with a continuous phaser blast and do a quantum torpedo chaser.....which would literally blow the SSD to pieces. Remember, a photon torpedo is equivalent to 64 megatons (the largest nuke we have to date delivers a 50 megaton explosion although most nukes are measured in kilotons, Hiroshima was only 15 kilotons). Keep in mind that quantum torpedos are at least twice as powerful as photon torpedos...so while Vader is choking Picard, Data is firing....bye, bye SSD!
    That's nice. The Emperor controlled the minds of his troops from galaxies away. He'd simply render everyone aboard the enterprise unable to push the button to fire the weapons, or perhaps make them see friendlies as hostiles. (going with EU her, but rules state that I can so there...)
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    Apr 29, 2012, 9:57 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #64

    Yeah, the Emporer may be able to cause a paralyzing dread to the Enterprise's crew, but Data could not be so swayed. In addition, Trek's computers are cooperative; whereas, Star Wars computers speak too many linguacodes and often argue with one another. I think Data would have the edge on that one...,. "Fire a tight spread of torpedoes at SSD! Couldn't miss it if it were a little smaller."
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    May 7, 2012, 10:09 PM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #65

    Jar Jar Binks



    Vs....


    Q




    It's difficult to match anyone up against Jar Jar but Q may be up to the task with his whole do whatever he wants whenever he wants thing.

    Then again, Jar Jar, the true Sith Lord, can pretty much mess up anything effortlessly. It's a tough one to call.
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    Jul 24, 2014, 3:54 AM - Re: Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek #66

    Well, this is a late response but you are quite confused. When the other poster said size doesn't matter, they were right. You said size matters because "a larger ship is going to be able to take much more damage to the hull than a smaller ship and be able to stay functional. Look at that photo of the size charts..."
    Sadly, nothing you say makes sense and this is all just a made up fantasy theoretical conversation which makes it even worse that you make no sense.
    No, in fact, a larger ship would not necessarily be able to take more damage than a smaller ship would unless you have some evidence that the strength of the hulls of the vessels are equivalent. Also, as far as a star destroyer goes, you also have to be assuming that there are multiple redundant energy systems, weapon systems, propulsion systems and command stations separated all over throughout the Star Destroyer so that any one hit that destroys any on of those systems would require the vessel to have another system that automatically would take over should one get destroyed. So your little idea of oh, if any part of the ship got destroyed, the ship would just wall it off and keep going. This would only be possible if the ship had the above redundancy of systems as stated above.
    Then we have the issue of lasers. They use lasers in Star Wars. If you knew what you were talking about, you would know lasers cannot even weaken the shield any major power in 24th century star trek world has. If a Star Destroyer cannot even break through a ships shields, how does it win? Further, the ability of a star trek ship to evade a star destroyer based on the way we've seen a star destroyer fire its weapons, a star trek vessel would evade a star destroyers attacks with more easy than the Millennium Falcon did when it comes to maneuverability. So, if technology in Star Wars is still functioning with lasers, it has to be very far behind 24th century Star Trek Technology. For example, then you also have the fact that the Scimitar (and other ships) has a cloaking device and that, very much like the Klingon Bird of Prey in the 23rd century in The Undiscovered Country could fire weapons whilst still cloaked, imagine what the Scimitar, with 500 times the offensive capabilities can also fire its weapons while remaining cloaked and if hit with a torpedo while cloaked, unlike the weaker century older Klingon bird of prey with the same ability. On top of that, even with the Scimitar being hit multiple times, whilst cloaked, took very little damage after the two new Romulan War-Bird classes had been put down, with one being destroyed and the other dead in space, with the Enterprise E having completely exhausted all of its weapons and guess what? The Scimitar was still fully functional, barely having taken any damage at all.
    Also, people like to bring the Death Star up for Star Wars but think about the fact that the Scimitar had its thalaron emitters that could kill every living thing on a planet yet, not destroy it, leaving all of the goodies on the planet left to loot.
    Also, if you don't like the Death Star, try the Dyson Sphere and then get back to me.
    Finally, you seem to be very nave about this topic since you seem to know very little about Star trek. You bring up Vader using his "choking abilities" on people. Now, I am not sure how good Vader is at using the ability, how many people he can do it to at once, whether the vessel his targets are on are moving and attacking the star destroy while Vader is trying to do this, thus perhaps breaking his concentration. And since its all of Star Trek and not just the Federation & if you had the proper education, you would know that there is not even the slightest reasonable comparison to Q compared to the Emperor. The Emperor in comparison to Q that the Emperor would pose less of a threat to Q that a termite does to a human. If you didn't know what Q is capable of compared to Vader or the Emperor, you are not equipped for the discussion.

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