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Deadliest Warrior Star Wars vs. Star Trek
well I've been loving the new Spike series Deadliest Warrior
and i was thinking wouldn't it be cool if they did Star Wars and Star Trek
or could it be done here on TDH?
Much Like the Darth Maul vs. Darth Vader poll that being done.
Rules:
can use Movie / Book / Game info
has to be even match ( no Slave 1 vs Spock)
needs stats including weapons that will be used
would be nice in match is done by rule of vote on the facts of each battle not just cause im a Star wars fan so im only gonna vote Star Wars
and please follow TDH COC
could Start by going ship vs ship
Star Wars
Executor
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...xecutor_01.jpg
Stats
Length 19,000 meters
Armament
Turbolaser batteries 1,000+
Concussion missile tubes
Ion cannons
Tractor beam projectors
Complement
TIE/ln starfighter wings
All Terrain Armored Transports
All Terrain Scout Transports
Prefabricated garrison base
Various other assault and support craft (total of 200)
Various speeder bikes
Crew 300,000
Passengers Troops 38,000
Anybody that knows Star Trek got a ship/fleet that can fight that?
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Only possible competitor would be the borg who can assimilate people and technology. Enterprise just doesn't have what it takes to take out the empire.
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That is a pretty epicly scaled ship... I can't think of a sole ship other than something of the borg that can go against it... Then again I don't know much about Star Trek heh.
:skull El1te
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mandosoldier
Only possible competitor would be the borg who can assimilate people and technology. Enterprise just doesn't have what it takes to take out the empire.
well that was just and EXP
can you get me stats and pic for Enterprise and ill pick a close match for it?
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They could send a tiny kamikaze fighter straight into the bridge. Worked for the rebels.
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RevolverOcelot
They could send a tiny kamikaze fighter straight into the bridge. Worked for the rebels.
lol yes but i dout Star Trek has kamikazes and i dont wanna base it on luck
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How about;
http://www.merzo.net/images/100mppSW...rDestroyer.gif
SHIP NAME/TYPE: Executor/ Super Star Destroyer
LENGTH: 19km (Official)
vs.
http://www.merzo.net/images/100mppSTVGER.gif
SHIP NAME/TYPE: V'Ger (Voyager VI)
LENGTH: Approximately 98 km.
For an inspiring look into scale of our favourite sic-fi ships visit the source of these images;
Jeff Russel's Star Ship Dimensions
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:suprise:suprise:suprise:suprise:suprise
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I'm not even gonna say what that reminds me of. :lol
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You don't have to...
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We talkin' about nanobots?
:lol
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There are some pretty funny youtube videos that tackle this very subject, with Star Destroyer's attacking the Enterprise. Just one of many: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ijD...eature=related
There is also this short essay tilted Star Wars vs Star Trek in Five minutes: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/...veMinutes.html
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As anyone who has seen the new movie knows, one drop of that red matter stuff on Spock's ship could destroy anything, ship, planet, whatever. I think the Spock ship would take any large ship in Star Wars. The smaller and faster ships like the Falcon and Slave 1 however, would get the drop on Spock.
Also the big Romulan ship Nerada would be a good match for a Star Destroyer and maybe even the Executor.
I am and have always been a bigger Star Wars fan by the way.
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eh, palpatine would see spock's ship coming and hit it with the death star, problem solved!
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the only way to take down a star destroyer is using an A-Wing gone kamikaze...
and as far as i know no one from Star Trek has that
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How about deadliest warrior TDH Members? Boomer Fett Vs. FettDad
*At least alot of girlish screams thrown back and forth
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22ssplt
How about deadliest warrior TDH Members? Boomer Fett Vs. FettDad
*At least alot of girlish screams thrown back and forth
Is it a tickle fight or a pillow fight??? Cause FettDad has some reach on me.>:
I think I can take him:suprise
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Knowing you two.....tickle fight. :lol
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Cool, I'm down! You hear that FETTDADDY???? I am callin you OUT BIAAAAA!!!
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I'll be taking bets Now. LOL.
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As for the star trek vs star wars How bout this for the executor.
The reman warbird
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/scimitar.jpg
The Scimitar is a huge vessel built by the Reman rebels on a secret base. Superior to any ship of either the Federation or the Romulans with 52 disruptors and 27 torpedo banks, the Scimitar is capable of firing while cloaked. It is also equipped with a thalaron emitter, a weapon that destroys any organic tissue. The thalaron emitter is activated by unfolding the wings of the vessel. There is at least one large shuttlebay with dozens of Scorpion-class fighters.
This is not a scale image. Its not bigger than the ssd. I just coulndt find a scale pic.
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Boomer Fett
NERD!!!
No, knowledge! LOL!
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Originally Posted by
Rc-2064
No, knowledge! LOL!
Fascinating
:skull El1te
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here ya go. a starship size comparison of SW vs ST have a field day guys :lol
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Originally Posted by
BobaFettSlave_1
here ya go. a starship size comparison of SW vs ST have a field day guys :lol
Yes that was the one I was looking for. Thanks dude!
You guys can see the size comparison of the ssd to the reman warbird. (Its right under the ssd in front of the romulan warbird.) Its not a big ship. However A a-wing took out the ssd with a quick few shots to the bridge defector shield generator and then flew into the bridge. This bad boy Wont stand up to 1000+ turbolasers but It does have cloaking and it can fire while cloaked. It also has primary and secondary shields.
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GCNgamer128
No one wins when Jar Jar is involved. Except the Ewoks. As soon as Jar Jar appears all the crosshairs go from them to him
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lol im out for a lil while and the disscussion goes nuts funny stuff thoe
any one got the details on them ships guns? shields? personal ship defender squads? aka Tie Fighters? lol
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Star Wars and Star Trek are both completely different. Keep in mind that all of those Star Wars ships are mainly military ships, where as Star Trek is space exploration; it's really unfair to compare the two. It's like comparing an assault rifle to a pair of binoculars.
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GCNgamer128
It's like comparing an assault rifle to a pair of binoculars.
ya but you can still beat a man to death with a pair of binoculars
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Son of the Baptist
lol im out for a lil while and the disscussion goes nuts funny stuff thoe
any one got the details on them ships guns? shields? personal ship defender squads? aka Tie Fighters? lol
LOL.
I do think the reman warbird could give the ssd a run for its money. It wont stand up head to head cause it would be blown apart. However the ability to fire while cloaked is a useful tool. Also the fact that its not using phasers banks instead disruptor banks and torpedo bays. Would be interesting to see.
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Rc-2064
LOL.
I do think the reman wrabird could give the ssd a run for its money. It wont stand up head to head cause it would be blown apart. However the ability to fire while cloaked is a useful tool. Also the fact that its not using pasers banks instead disruptor banks and torpedo bays. Would be interesting to see.
are you talking star trek cuz you lost me at reman wrabird lol
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Son of the Baptist
are you talking star trek cuz you lost me at reman warbird lol
LOL! Yeah.
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how baout this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4
i laughed the entire time!
run, Picard! RUUUN!
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BobaFettSlave_1
here ya go. a starship size comparison of SW vs ST have a field day guys :lol
No Deathstar? or is it big enough for its own poster:)
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ookk Enterprise vs Millenium Falcon who wins?
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i vote Millenium Falcon due to its speed
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True but are its weapons strong enough to penetrate the enterprises shields. Also can it take a hit from the many phaser banks and torpedo bays that line the enterprise. Also which enterprise? Galaxy class or constitution class?
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The Falcon has moveable guns to do rund on it and hit it while it is on the move and it also has proton tops and heavy shields as well
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It would definitely give the enterprise a run for its money but which enterprise are we talking about? Picards (Galaxy class) or kirks (Constitution class)
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I don't know the diffrence. I didn't even know there was more then one
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Yeah theres actually a few.
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had to make it difficult lol
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well it depends who is piloting and how many gunners
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We Star Wars people have the Death Star. BANG! We win.
:lolsorry. i have no idea what technology Star Trek has. One insane obsession is enough for me!:wacko:D
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Son of the Baptist
had to make it difficult lol
LOL! :lol
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CombatBaby
well it depends who is piloting and how many gunners
well for the Falcon Han and Chewie as pilots with Anakin Skywalker and Wedge Antillies as gunners for star wars.....
give it your best shot trekkie:lol:cheers
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Well the galaxy class enterprise has 12 x type phaser arrays and 3 proton torpedo launchers each capable of firing 10 at a time. It carries up to 250 torpedoes. Also a high capacity shield grid. You figure picard and riker as commanding officers and wolf and data on tactical.......
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does the star wars side get to use grand admiral thrawn?
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LMAO you brought this back?
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oh snap! how did this get flagged as new when i clicked new posts? at least it's not three years old.
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Originally Posted by
Son of the Baptist
well I've been loving the new Spike series Deadliest Warrior
and i was thinking wouldn't it be cool if they did Star Wars and Star Trek
or could it be done here on TDH?
Much Like the Darth Maul vs. Darth Vader poll that being done.
Rules:
can use Movie / Book / Game info
has to be even match ( no Slave 1 vs Spock)
needs stats including weapons that will be used
would be nice in match is done by rule of vote on the facts of each battle not just cause im a Star wars fan so im only gonna vote Star Wars
and please follow TDH COC
could Start by going ship vs ship
Star Wars
Executor
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...xecutor_01.jpg
Stats
Length 19,000 meters
Armament
Turbolaser batteries 1,000+
Concussion missile tubes
Ion cannons
Tractor beam projectors
Complement
TIE/ln starfighter wings
All Terrain Armored Transports
All Terrain Scout Transports
Prefabricated garrison base
Various other assault and support craft (total of 200)
Various speeder bikes
Crew 300,000
Passengers Troops 38,000
Anybody that knows Star Trek got a ship/fleet that can fight that?
Actually, anything with shields, type x phasers (or better) and photon/quantum torpedo's would be able to defeat the SSD. Size has nothing to do with winning the battle. Lasers, even turbolasers would not penetrate the defensive shields around federation ships, even the older ones. Phasers and photon/quantum torpedos would easily penetrate the SSD's shields and hull plating...the problem would be, would they have enough to destroy the ship? The Enterprise D carries 250 torpedos, which if concentrated in the drive section could easily destroy the SSD. Even a ship as small as the Defiant could potentially defeat the SSD by taking out the bridge module. Sorry to break it to you but the Star Wars universe is just a little more advanced than the Battlestar Galactica universe...now there would be a fight, Battlestar Pegasus Vs. the SSD!
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Nah there would be no contest. Vader would simply comm the commander and choke him to death via the force. And do the same for everyone else on the bridge. And size does in fact matter. A larger ship is going to be able to take much more damage to the hull than a smaller ship and be able to stay functional. Look at that photo of the size charts of the enterprise vs an SSD. Even a glancing blow from the SSD is going to vaporize the enterprise which is like a flea. I don't care about quantum missiles etc.... it's going to take MUCH more than they can hold to disable an SSD much less destroy it. Here's my reasoning....
A spaceworthy ship is going to have a way to cut off every room from everywhere else in case that room gets opened into space. That way one hole doesn't suck the whole crew into space. So let's give the enterprise a fighting chance, they have 250 torpedoes. I can bet the SSD has more rooms than that, it probably has that just lining the hull alone. Even if they make one hole in each of these rooms, or maybe 250 holes in one room, they still won't have damaged the SSD enough to destroy it. The SSD would just seal off those rooms and keep going.
Meanwhile the SSD is going to launching swarm upon swarm of bombers, fighters, interceptors, and other kinds of craft at them, all the while firing their own turbolaser batteries. They may be weaker, but the sheer amount of ordinance is going to overwhelm any superior shields and armor the enterprise may have. Even barring this, all the SSD has to do is seal off the rooms lining the bow of the SSD and ram the enterprise, who's shields wouldn't be able to cope with that kind of mass ramming them. and *poof* enterprise is gone.
Like I said in the battle of SSD vs Enterprise, size is the be all end all. Add to that Vader's presence and soon you'll see Picard/Kirk choking to death before the enterprise explodes.
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mandosoldier
Nah there would be no contest. Vader would simply comm the commander and choke him to death via the force. And do the same for everyone else on the bridge. And size does in fact matter. A larger ship is going to be able to take much more damage to the hull than a smaller ship and be able to stay functional. Look at that photo of the size charts of the enterprise vs an SSD. Even a glancing blow from the SSD is going to vaporize the enterprise which is like a flea. I don't care about quantum missiles etc.... it's going to take MUCH more than they can hold to disable an SSD much less destroy it. Here's my reasoning....
A spaceworthy ship is going to have a way to cut off every room from everywhere else in case that room gets opened into space. That way one hole doesn't suck the whole crew into space. So let's give the enterprise a fighting chance, they have 250 torpedoes. I can bet the SSD has more rooms than that, it probably has that just lining the hull alone. Even if they make one hole in each of these rooms, or maybe 250 holes in one room, they still won't have damaged the SSD enough to destroy it. The SSD would just seal off those rooms and keep going.
Meanwhile the SSD is going to launching swarm upon swarm of bombers, fighters, interceptors, and other kinds of craft at them, all the while firing their own turbolaser batteries. They may be weaker, but the sheer amount of ordinance is going to overwhelm any superior shields and armor the enterprise may have. Even barring this, all the SSD has to do is seal off the rooms lining the bow of the SSD and ram the enterprise, who's shields wouldn't be able to cope with that kind of mass ramming them. and *poof* enterprise is gone.
Like I said in the battle of SSD vs Enterprise, size is the be all end all. Add to that Vader's presence and soon you'll see Picard/Kirk choking to death before the enterprise explodes.
That's OK.....because Q likes Picard...so Q would just make Vader, the Emperor and everyone else on the dark side of the force disappear....end of story.....As far as the size issue goes, all the Enterprise would have to do is burn a hole into the SSD with a continuous phaser blast and do a quantum torpedo chaser.....which would literally blow the SSD to pieces. Remember, a photon torpedo is equivalent to 64 megatons (the largest nuke we have to date delivers a 50 megaton explosion although most nukes are measured in kilotons, Hiroshima was only 15 kilotons). Keep in mind that quantum torpedos are at least twice as powerful as photon torpedos...so while Vader is choking Picard, Data is firing....bye, bye SSD!
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Originally Posted by
Son of the Baptist
well I've been loving the new Spike series Deadliest Warrior
and i was thinking wouldn't it be cool if they did Star Wars and Star Trek
or could it be done here on TDH?
Much Like the Darth Maul vs. Darth Vader poll that being done.
Rules:
can use Movie / Book / Game info
has to be even match ( no Slave 1 vs Spock)
needs stats including weapons that will be used
would be nice in match is done by rule of vote on the facts of each battle not just cause im a Star wars fan so im only gonna vote Star Wars
and please follow TDH COC
could Start by going ship vs ship
Star Wars
Executor
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...xecutor_01.jpg
Stats
Length 19,000 meters
Armament
Turbolaser batteries 1,000+
Concussion missile tubes
Ion cannons
Tractor beam projectors
Complement
TIE/ln starfighter wings
All Terrain Armored Transports
All Terrain Scout Transports
Prefabricated garrison base
Various other assault and support craft (total of 200)
Various speeder bikes
Crew 300,000
Passengers Troops 38,000
Anybody that knows Star Trek got a ship/fleet that can fight that?
How about a match between the Super Star Destroyer Executor versus the Romulan mining ship Verada, from the new Star Trek movie?
IDK the stats for the Verada, but it did take some made up energy to take her down. Should be an even match for the Executor, with Vader or Piett in command. Even let Vader use the force, and the Romulans with "red matter." Oh, yeah... the Romulans may (conjecturally) use transporters. We don't see their use in the movie, as I think the Verada is more of a heavy industrial miner-- not concerned with more precise ore extraction (like down speific veins of ore). It probably had the crew shuttled aboard, and there may have been some service shuttles to conduct repairs.
And then theres the counter... the Executor, with it's swarms of T.I.E.s ( and all variants), regiments of stormtroopers and Imperial Army, and walkers (the Verada is large enough to have some storm the surface of the ship. Just the kind of suicidal battle plan Vader would order... with a disregard for the lives of his troops. He just wants the job done at all costs).
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Wolf359
That's OK.....because Q likes Picard...so Q would just make Vader, the Emperor and everyone else on the dark side of the force disappear....end of story.....As far as the size issue goes, all the Enterprise would have to do is burn a hole into the SSD with a continuous phaser blast and do a quantum torpedo chaser.....which would literally blow the SSD to pieces. Remember, a photon torpedo is equivalent to 64 megatons (the largest nuke we have to date delivers a 50 megaton explosion although most nukes are measured in kilotons, Hiroshima was only 15 kilotons). Keep in mind that quantum torpedos are at least twice as powerful as photon torpedos...so while Vader is choking Picard, Data is firing....bye, bye SSD!
That's nice. The Emperor controlled the minds of his troops from galaxies away. He'd simply render everyone aboard the enterprise unable to push the button to fire the weapons, or perhaps make them see friendlies as hostiles. (going with EU her, but rules state that I can so there...)
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Yeah, the Emporer may be able to cause a paralyzing dread to the Enterprise's crew, but Data could not be so swayed. In addition, Trek's computers are cooperative; whereas, Star Wars computers speak too many linguacodes and often argue with one another. I think Data would have the edge on that one...,. "Fire a tight spread of torpedoes at SSD! Couldn't miss it if it were a little smaller."
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Jar Jar Binks
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0...nks_large.jpeg
Vs....
Q
http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/tha...3176297222.jpg
It's difficult to match anyone up against Jar Jar but Q may be up to the task with his whole do whatever he wants whenever he wants thing.
Then again, Jar Jar, the true Sith Lord, can pretty much mess up anything effortlessly. It's a tough one to call.