well said vod!!!
well said vod!!!
I would have to agree with the checkpoints. Every gunshow I have attended has an officer at the front to make sure your weapon is clear and the puts a ziptie on the trigger or slide so you can be assured its not loaded. Does he also check to see you don't have a knife or cutters to remove the ziptie??? NO! Its just so that a person that wants to look at your gun can feel assured that you have it unloaded. If a nut wants to bring in ammo and start blasting, FEEL FREE! He won't get his third round off before twenty gun dealing Oklahoma rednecks put a nice group in his chest and forehead.
Here is the kicker, these conventions are run by the gun hating left. I say this out of common sense. If a gun toting maniac was to come in with a shotgun in his pants or two glocks strapped to his chest are they going to catch him??? If a costumer wanted to hide an H&K MP5 in his rocket pack will it be found??? No! They want to avoid the perception that they condone the Second Amendment. They want the world to know that they are anti-gun and they send the message the way they can.
In Australia and England are you safer because they removed your rights to firearms or are the only people left with guns the criminals??? I know that Japan once made public after WWII that they refused to attempt to invade the US mainland because all us crazy Americans had guns....think about it...Perception...both sides...I digress
Toy gun, NO! toy rocket, sure!
Got my popcorn, this is a good one!!!!!!!
Not even going to get in this.
Let's not get too hasty here. This is about prop weapons at cons, not the 2nd Amendment or right to own firearms. Let's try to remember that so this thread doesn't get locked and we can still have fun.
That being said, I'm really angry about this, even though I'll never go to an anime con. If these stupid policies keep going the way they are, soon you won't be able to wear any face coverings for "security reasons!"
.........stirrrrrrring the pot...........stir......stir.......MUHAHAHAHAH!!!
But you do have to ask yourself, "What are they truly trying to accomplish?" Are they keeping people safe or presenting an image? If it's not them then it might be their insurance carrier making silly rules as well? Agenda or finance? I can only sit and watch because either way it is the negative steroe-type that firearms have gotten that force narrow minded people into thinking that somehow they are making the world a better or safer place and all they do is clinch thier grip tighter on the American populace. Its like the dog that you beat mercilessly for ten days then wonder why he won't come when you call him....IMO!!!
Last edited by Boomer Fett; Apr 10, 2009 at 10:41 AM.
Well said Boomer!!!
ONCE AGAIN, CHEERS, BOOMER!!
and on a side note. We're all fairly reasonable people here. At least I am sometimes!
I just want to compliment EVERYBODY on both sides of this argument. We are discussing, even arguing against one another around, a VERY Volatile subject. However, I see we are ALL giving passionate, but CIVIL arguments. Free, open discussion amongst people is how things are solved properly.
Last edited by Django; Apr 11, 2009 at 8:42 PM.
Sorry to get off topic. I agree with Boomer, and the way the country is moving right now it is only a matter of time before someone will be knocking on our door, looking to take any guns or ammo. Not to get into any politics, but if you don't think it's true ask any of your local gun dealers. Ever since November gun sales have been at a record high, the economy might be bad but people are buying up as many guns as they can.
lol it's funny, I'm very pro gun rights, yet I'm one of the only ones who came out on the opposing side for this. Honestly, I'm fine with the guns, but I also understand why they are choosing to ban realistic looking toy guns. Even in stores today, you would b hard pressed to find a toy gun that is not green or pink. While I'd love to carry a blaster, it won't make or break the convention for me. Anyways, that's my two cents lol
I spoke to an event organisor and they told me it is due to the visitors being scared by the 'blasters, swords etc....' and thus effects the insurance requirements due to law suites. My take is if the few general public are scared of these replicas, props "what the hell are you doing here in the first place?!" Anime is the worst for sharp huge weapons! In a nut shell it's these morons who are effecting OUR hobbies. I think knitting needles are dangerous (joke) but I don't petition their hobbies. Fair go!
Attendies to this con are encouraged not to bring sharp objects - pens, pencils, sticks and the like. Anyone found to be carrying such an impliment must fit a pink rubber cap over the end or you'll be asked to leave.
We at Health & Safety Con hope you have a fun day, but not too exciting as it may exasperate any existing heart condition you may have"
I was once chased down by a police officer walking to my car outside a con because my Boba Blaster looked like a real gun. I had to put it in a plastic bag to cross the street..
OK, I don't blame them from wanting to ban "REAL" firearms from the con. I know there are people crazy enough to carry real gun with their costume instead of an air soft.... Yes, those guns that are not rendered usless, or antique firearms rendered in-opperable should not be brought to a con.
If you bring an airsoft... it shouldn't be allowed in with a gas cylinder, or charged, or full of pellets.
Any other gun or gun replica needs to be tagged or banded with a zip tie....
Any firearm needs to be bagged outside the convention center, so people unfamilar to the con don't see a malitia of people walking down the street..
I don't blame them to try to push for safety, and with the matter of checking the guns, if some dimwit handed me a "real" gun, I wouldn't even want to handel it at a con.
I've got a hyperfirm blaster for my TK, the dam thing will bounce if you throw it at the floor. If someone told me that I couldn't bring it to a con because it "looked" like a real firearm, and after inspection still told me not to bring it in, I would think they were slow!
Here's a pic of slavefive and me from Anime Expo '06
notice the little brightly colored zip-ties on our triggers?
Feel safer now?
No. You don't.
because it's ridiculous.
It's actually very funny, and perfectly legal in the United States, as it should be and should continue to be. I would state however, that my blaster is based on an AR-15, and if it were not heavily modified I would not blame them for being... cautious. Since it is heavily modified, I would be very upset if told it was inappropriate. In my opinion, if you can prove that it is not a legitimate weapon you shouldn't have any problems, especially since the police see you in a costume and generally assume the weapons are not real, if they do ask... it's very easy to show that the weapon is fake.