A Convention's weapon prop policy...
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Oddball Fett
Jr Hunter
A bright purple and neon green M-16 assault rifle, half the size of the real thing? :confused
Okay, I seriously doubt some terrorist or nut would go all the lengths to re-create an entire Fett or Stormtrooper outfit just to go and shoot a bunch of people. But if they wanted to have real gun, paint it in bright rainbow colours and cake it in enough plastic parts so it doesn't look like a real gun? Yeah, that's do-able if they were so inclined.
So inspect the weapons. (shrug)
mandosoldier
Hunter
just another reason why I hate anime. Got a sword 6 times as big as you are? "Fine come on in", got a westar blaster? "stay out unless it's green."
never ending fett
Active Hunter
It's almost like they are discouraging costumes that aren't anime related, I can kinda understand why, but that's not the best way to go about it.
Their weapon policy also limits the size of big anime swords as well. This is in their video at their website. It's under the "Big Props" video.
http://www.anime-expo.org/
The costumer who was escorted out because he carried a toy assault rifle was an anime costumer so the con staffers don't single out as to which genre that the costumer is wearing.
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OrtharRrith
Active Hunter
I don't know how it works outside of the UK, but events - including a few cons - that the Galactic Knights attend here in Britain have somewhat similar restrictions. Often prop weapons are required to be presented to a Weapons Desk were they are checked over and certified as unrealistic and -obviously- not real.
The Galactic Knights - and I can only speak for them not any other costuming group - have been exempt from these rules, often in part because we are invited to troop there by the event themselves - so they know we have various prop weapons on us.
The Galactic Knights - and I can only speak for them not any other costuming group - have been exempt from these rules, often in part because we are invited to troop there by the event themselves - so they know we have various prop weapons on us.
mandosoldier
Hunter
LOL also "no signs" *** is this? no pointy objects, no signs, no guns, no metal objects. Aren't the above the requirements of Anime costuming? large pointy metal things and signs reading "Hug Me", "Healiadin For Sale" etc...? and the forum censors w t and f keys if used in order? ***?
Most Anime Costumers go to cons with exhibition katanas and knifes and wave them like if they were experts... Try hiting someone with a Katana (exhibition or not) you are going to cause a lot of damage and pain... That it's a real weapon... And they allow them without a problem... At least here in Argentina...
this is another ridiculous case of people that know nothing about guns or gun safety trying to heap their personal opinions of firearms/weapons onto the general public. These conventions really should be slapped. Did they even consult law enforcement or costuming groups before posting these bans?? The weapons/props are integral.
What would a Doc Holliday or Marshal Dillon costume look like if you took away the guns? POINTLESS! Its the same way with and weapons themed costume!
I realize that HUGE weapons and REALISTIC weapons (such as blank guns) should be banned, but thats a matter of common sense. Law enforcement officers can tell the difference between an AR-15 and a westar blaster. It doesn't even take a second.
At least a little real compromise! Make all convention weapons have orange barrel tips. Make every costumed convention goer check in, hand their props over to an experienced security officer, let him check it over, and if its got a orange plugged barrerl/obviously cannot be modified to fire, then let it pass! Each person would take about 5 seconds.
Its bad enough when I have to deal with gun grabbing bureaucrats that think an AR-15 is far more powerful than an Ruger mini-14 and therefor shouldn't be carried by officers in their cars. (Gun guys will understand my point. .223 vs. .223??? I had to sit down and explain reality to a state rep. ouch.) Now I have to argue with people why one fake gun isn't more dangerous than another!! SHEESH!
What would a Doc Holliday or Marshal Dillon costume look like if you took away the guns? POINTLESS! Its the same way with and weapons themed costume!
I realize that HUGE weapons and REALISTIC weapons (such as blank guns) should be banned, but thats a matter of common sense. Law enforcement officers can tell the difference between an AR-15 and a westar blaster. It doesn't even take a second.
At least a little real compromise! Make all convention weapons have orange barrel tips. Make every costumed convention goer check in, hand their props over to an experienced security officer, let him check it over, and if its got a orange plugged barrerl/obviously cannot be modified to fire, then let it pass! Each person would take about 5 seconds.
Its bad enough when I have to deal with gun grabbing bureaucrats that think an AR-15 is far more powerful than an Ruger mini-14 and therefor shouldn't be carried by officers in their cars. (Gun guys will understand my point. .223 vs. .223??? I had to sit down and explain reality to a state rep. ouch.) Now I have to argue with people why one fake gun isn't more dangerous than another!! SHEESH!
Nyx Mandalore
Jr Hunter
dankenman beat me to it.
I've seen that AR-15 before and that is EXACTLY where my mind went when I saw this.
Inspection is definitely the way to go. Banning all weapons that aren't neon colors is just kind of stupid. As has been ably pointed out, in that sort of world, the Stormtroopers will be boxing and Hello Kitty will kill us all.
=p
There's irony there somewhere, I'm pretty sure.
I've seen that AR-15 before and that is EXACTLY where my mind went when I saw this.
Inspection is definitely the way to go. Banning all weapons that aren't neon colors is just kind of stupid. As has been ably pointed out, in that sort of world, the Stormtroopers will be boxing and Hello Kitty will kill us all.
=p
There's irony there somewhere, I'm pretty sure.
stormtrooperguy
Sr Hunter
zip tie the triggers and call it a day 
the way that the security guy at dragoncon tagged my weapons was perfect. big hot pink zip tie across the trigger and handle, leaving the trigger fully depressed. totally obvious when holstered, easily concealed for photos.
and these were realistic guns (a couple of models of airsoft mp5) with no orange tips (accurate replicas vs. costume accessories, so the orange tips would kill the look)
the way that the security guy at dragoncon tagged my weapons was perfect. big hot pink zip tie across the trigger and handle, leaving the trigger fully depressed. totally obvious when holstered, easily concealed for photos.
and these were realistic guns (a couple of models of airsoft mp5) with no orange tips (accurate replicas vs. costume accessories, so the orange tips would kill the look)
yodakiller1138
Well-Known Hunter
This might be a pipe dream, but I guess the only option would be to just boycott such events and hurt them where it hurts the most: THE WALLET. And tell them why. If enough fans got together the policy would change REAL QUICK.:facepalm
In Norway we seldom come across restriction such as these, on the other hand we have a little more thought through policy on owning weapons over here, so the chance of something like a massacre are a lot slimmer than in the US and some other countries.
But, if an event or con over here were to restrict use of the prop weapons, I would not attend.
But, if an event or con over here were to restrict use of the prop weapons, I would not attend.
stormshadow2100
Hunter
It is not mine, but this is a REAL AR-15. It is not a toy. So is this allowed at the convention?
thats funny .Boomer Fett
Active Hunter
We are talking about The Peoples Republic of California. I am sorry but you could not pay me any amount of money to live there. When you remove the rights of "citizens" to own firearms you become "subjects". Its just the way California and other "Democratic Free Thinkers" are going.
I am a cop in one of the most TERRORIZED cities in the world. Oklahoma City. We are reminded daily with NYC and DC what terrorism is. The media has portrayed school shootings and business shootings like the guns are the problem and that this is some sort of "New Crime Wave".
People let me tell you, domestic terrorism is nothing new to the USA. Google "Andrew Kehoe" and Bath School Disaster. This happened in 1927 and most americans have no idea it ever happened. The media has an agenda like these anime's do. They don't want the non-anime tumes running the show.
Just remember that if guns kill people then pencils cause mispelled words.
Just my two cents from a ten year veteran officer from a major city police department. The world has lost its sense of humor and ability to think for itself...IMO
I am a cop in one of the most TERRORIZED cities in the world. Oklahoma City. We are reminded daily with NYC and DC what terrorism is. The media has portrayed school shootings and business shootings like the guns are the problem and that this is some sort of "New Crime Wave".
People let me tell you, domestic terrorism is nothing new to the USA. Google "Andrew Kehoe" and Bath School Disaster. This happened in 1927 and most americans have no idea it ever happened. The media has an agenda like these anime's do. They don't want the non-anime tumes running the show.
Just remember that if guns kill people then pencils cause mispelled words.
Just my two cents from a ten year veteran officer from a major city police department. The world has lost its sense of humor and ability to think for itself...IMO
