Discussion on CHARLIE's DONE!! (for now) *PIC HEAVY* within the The Sarlacc Pit forum, part of the Community category; Woot! Finally got my Fett finished up. Here's some pics
Woot! Finally got my Fett finished up. Here's some pics outside and at the event we did later that evening. (And yes, it's not 100% screen accurate. And there are still several things I want to do to it. A Fett is never really finished *grin*) Feel free to post comments and constructive criticism! (and point out the differences from a "real" ESB Fett!)
Charlie
Its a really great start bro. So you want constructive critism huh. Well, heres a bit friendly advice to start you off. I'm afraid your blaster is ROTJ, and your gauntlets are ROTJ too(the left in particular). Also, I would like to see a different weathering pattern on your armour & the suit overall is a bit too "clean". Again, great so far, but you asked for comments.
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Very good so far, especially the Pack. It looks great. Here is my list of what i spotted that you need to correct though;
- RotJ Blaster, you need the ESB one instead, way big difference
- RotJ Gauntlets, you have the right paint, but the wrong gauntlets.. especially the flamethrower on your left one. Its a pipe setup and not a square housing with nozzles.
- RotJ Boot Spats, ESB Boba doesnt wear spats, just the straps you have on your ankles on the jumpsuit, if its a LadySweforus like i think it is (ive got 2 of my own)
- RotJ Vest, wrong colour and needs much needed weathering, you need a less shiney greyish shade if you have a jumpsuit that blue or it looks too much out of place
- RotJ Girthbelt, you need a brown one and not the red. You can sell it or dye it to fix that
- Ya need more of an overall weathering, not just on the leg pouches, especially at the ankles to knees
- On your Knees and Shoulders, the Orange Knees and Shoulder needs to be more yellow with a mist of orange, and the yellow Shoulder needs to be duller, it looks like you have used a brilliant yellow, when you needed a camel yellow.
- Weathering on the Backplate.. many people miss it thinking it wont be seen, but it will be more than you realise, especially in the sides and the upper back portion.
Personally (as im a very Biased RotJ Fett in the Making) id stay a RotJ Fett and repaint a few things, but you might as well do up a pure ESB as well
As other folks have said, you've got an ESB/RotJ hybrid going on. It looks like you're closer to Special Edition than you are either movie proper (ESB helmet with RotJ everythingelse)
If you swap/bleach out the flight suit and repaint the gauntlets and jet pack you'd be SE. To go ESB you'll need new gauntlets (or maybe you could modify yours... I don't know if it's as simple as removing the flamethrower housing and replacing it with the bar thingy) and a new blaster.
My other bit of advice is posture. I still struggle with this. You have a natural tendency to lean back from the position / weight of the backpack.
If you look at your upper body, you have a distinct backward angle going on. Same with your head... because you're leaning back, the front of the helmet is nearly touching the chest armor.
If you're standing up straight, that won't happen.
Just a quick question for you ... because this has happened to me. Is the collar armor connected to the jet pack in any way or is the harness the only thing holding the jet pack on? The reason I ask is because it looks like the collar armor is being pulled back. This use to happen to me, and it is a real choking effect. If the jet pack is pulling the collar armor, I would strongly recommend you get that adjusted.
Thanks for the comments guys! I should have explained earlier, when I said it's not 100% screen accurate, it's not meant to be. It *is* a hybrid ESB/ROTJ Fett. I took the elements that I liked from each one (like the ESB paintjob, the ROTJ blaster and flamethrower) and combined them to make my Fett. (Kinda like comic book license, if you will).
Defintely thanks for the advice on posture. It's proving difficult to get the "stance" of Boba Fett down, esp since i need someone else here to be able to put the armor on.
Jimmy, the jet pack is NOT connected to the collar armor at all. HOWEVER, the collar armor IS getting pulled up. (I had a nice red mark across my chest&neck from that when the event was over. Right now....I'm not exactly sure WHY that's happening, but I'm going to be reworking the harness so hopefully I can elminate that.
Charlie
just for curiosity, are you planning to do send this in to the 501st as an official costume, or keeping it casual?Originally Posted by charlie
i'm always curious about how one garrison judges stuff vs. another... i'm fairly sure we wouldn't approve a hybrid.
as far as the collar goes... maybe the harness is causing the vest to pull back somehow?
looks great! i like that it is a hybrid fett. But i do think the weathering could be pushed a little more.
I do like the concept you have going with the hybrid fett. The thing that, for me, takes away from your outfit is the weathering on the armor. It's just too big and too round. I say go back and do some latex/vaseline/mustard/whatever masking and make it a little more random. Take what you like from the ROTJ/ESB/SE suit scratches and marks and then replicate as possible. It will give you a much more realistic effect that I think ultimately you will be much happier with in the end.
This is a great effort you have going though. It looks strange to see the ROTJ guantlets in green, but in a good way.
The weathering on the armor and on the jumpsuit are the main areas I'm looking at fixing. The suit has good weathering on parts of it, but unfortunately some areas are just too glaringly clean. The entire suit IS actually weathered with various dyes and colours, but esp on the upper arms and midriff, it just doesn't show up at a distance very well. I'll be working on that today.
As far as the armor goes, I'm actually thinking about stripping it down entirely and repainting it. The "random damage" method I used on the helmet gave it a good look and feel (IMHO) but it just didn't work out well with the armor. i'm going to start looking for some better pictures of the armor than what I have right now and see if I can do a better job of replicating the ESB damage.
Charlie
nice job buddy. don't loop your belt pouches onto the ammo belt, pin them behind the belt. pull your pack up a little higher and your suit needs to be a little more grayer. it is too blue. and just about everything else the above members mentioned too. other than that, your on your way.
Last edited by Bountyone; 02-26-2008 at 12:19 PM.
You can tell you put a lot of work into it Charlie, nicely done!
PM sent..
It happened to me all the time when my collar armor was not connected to the vest. I think the jet pack harness straps can pull the back armor down if the slits in the vest are too low. If this happens, the collar armor will be pulled back since it is connected to the back armor.
The left Shoulder armor looks yellow compared to the other shoulder and knees. I would keep the yellow, mask off the damage and add the orange color over it.
The left shoulder *is* yellow. It's supposed to be yellow compared to orange on the other shoulder and the knees.
Charlie
Yeah, but my collar armor is also NOT connected to the back armor. The only thing I was thinking is: back armor connected to vest. collar armor connected to vest. jet pack pulls the back armor down -> collar armor gets pulled up.
Charlie
Hmm...I never noticed it.
Ok, I've decided to totally redo the weathering on the armor. Here's the left side; please note the yellow has not been painted on, this was a test run to see how the weathering would come out. I'm happy with it though, and I think I'm just going to add the yellow and move along...
Charlie
much better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think you'll find the new weathering will make a world of difference in the appearance. I'm glad you decided to go back and re-do. That's a major step.
Dude! That looks much better. Also, when it comes to the yellow damage, less is more.
Also, have you seen the Master Replica prints? One of the prints features Boba with green gauntlets with the ROTJ style flamethrower just like yours.
You know, I'm glad I named this thread done. The irony makes me smile as I repaint the armor. *grin* Here are some photos of the chest armor reweathered on my mannequin, as well as a comparison shot. I still need to work on the collar and the cod piece, but that will have to wait til tomorrow. (And I really hope the temperature rises tomorrow, or I might get that pushed back further).
Here's a comparison shot, relatively close up, of the old paint scheme.
Charlie
is that "glossy" paint you used on your Gauntlets? if it is, you may want to dull the paint down a notch. try a flat Panzer or Olive green.
It's not a glossy paint. I think that those pictures were before I dulled down the clearcoat and since the lighting was bad, the flash was reflecting a lot. I'll double check those in better lighting and see if I need to dull them down some more. Thanks for the heads up!is that "glossy" paint you used on your Gauntlets? if it is, you may want to dull the paint down a notch. try a flat Panzer or Olive green.
Speaking of better lighting, here is the armor, all finished on my manq outside.
Charlie
Aren't you much happier with that result? I know I certainly would be. Great job!
I am indeed. I didn't realize just how bad it looked before
Charlie
Nice...!!
Looks loads better bro... glad I could help out?
I can't believe the difference...
Wow, the repaint on the armor looks 100 times better. Nice job!
Great Job Charlie..Where is that, Cloud City !
the repaint is looking great!
now your talkin'! Doing great Charlie!
looks a lot better. great job
looking good Charlie, keep up the good work bro
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