AVP-R Spoilers!!!!!

Well I know a guy who knows a guy so I got to watch the movie yesterday. I thought the movie was pretty good. I have always loved the predator. My only main complaint is there was only one main predator in the movie....though he is the toughest one Ive seen yet!! Loved the hybrid but I wish the fight scene at the end would have lasted longer.

Also, and call me stupid, but am I suppose to know who the girl at the end is when they bring in the case with the predators gun??

Headed to space in the next one??????? Thoughs and opinions please.

Now, I haven't seen it yet, but could it be the surviving girl from the first one?

This movie was nothing but a "Best Of" Alien and or Predator montage. They took all of the best parts of all of the movies and tried to cram it into one film.

This movie was also not scary nor suspenseful at any given moment. So much action was happening that they never gave you more than a few seconds to build up any fright factor. Sure the gore was fun and the action was fun but all in all, I felt it lacked a bit of substance.


And what the **** was with the last scene?! Are they going to completely ruin these franchises like the ruined the matrix? Who is that asian chick and why did we just learn of her now?!
I know it's not the chick from the first AVP. Not possible considering the timeline.


Overall I give it a thumbs down.

Ok, as I said I haven't seen this, but I meant from the first AVP. Judging by the first 5 minutes online showed it happening directly after the first one. The first AVP is meant to be 10/10/2004, and the way they show the first 5 minutes is right after the pred got back on the ship. Unless it advances in a timeline beyond that?

Originally Posted by Satxer

Ok, as I said I haven't seen this, but I meant from the first AVP. Judging by the first 5 minutes online showed it happening directly after the first one. The first AVP is meant to be 10/10/2004, and the way they show the first 5 minutes is right after the pred got back on the ship. Unless it advances in a timeline beyond that?

You are correct. It takes place directly after the first one because they show when the hybrid bursts out of Scar's chest and right after that, since aliens grow at an emormous rate, it attacks the other predator on the ship. They dont show any time gap so it has to be directly after the first one.

here is saint nasty's completely biased, and uninformed spoiler for avp-r. it sucks and i won't be watching it. but if you would like the reasons as to why i've come to this decision please read my blog on myspace: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=321029421

Originally Posted by suspect86

And what the **** was with the last scene?! Are they going to completely ruin these franchises like the ruined the matrix? Who is that asian chick and why did we just learn of her now?!
I know it's not the chick from the first AVP. Not possible considering the timeline.

Could it be the girl from the first Predator movie? Both she and Dutch survived, so it's possible that she went on to be a part of some anti-Predator division of the government. After all, she had firsthand experience with one.

I thought it was pretty darn good myself.Just to see the pred man on screen again was enough for me, and all those wonderful new toys.Love it.
i would have liked to see a few more preds, but hey the first one only had the one pred so oh well.
I also loved the fact that we finally see their planet.Maybe more of it in the next one.

The woman at the end they called Yutani. In the first AVP movie you met Charles Bishop Weyland.....rich robotics master whom the Bishop android was designed to look like in the Aliens movies

The Weyland-Yutani corporation was the company in all the Aliens films that keeps trying to capture an Alien for military research purposes. The ending of this movie brings us ahead to the future of the first Alien movie.

well, jsut my little two cents. I haven't seen the movie yet. I will, cause I'm W-Y corp slave who can't avoid anything related to my beloved aliens. But as far as the AVP movies go...

They had a PHENOMAL comic to draw from. (See the Dark Horse AvP series. It's well drawn, well storied, great idea and great visuals).

They had TERRFIC video games to draw from. AvP, AvP2 (esp 2 IMHO) had a great storyline.

Paul Anderson RUINED the franchise with the first movie. The whole plot was just...abyssal. and so were the fight scenes. Although, I will admit, seeing my beloved queen up and running and kicking *** was awesome.

Anyway, back to the hive...

Charlie

I just got back, the movie rocked!

I thought the movie was great. I was a little a little confused about the end too. I don't remember anyone calling her Yutani. I'll take your all's word for it though. If it is, than that would make alot more sense. All in all I thought it was a great movie! I would agree that there wasn't much, if any suspense, but that's OK. What was with the hybrid reproducing in pregnant women?

I liked it. It was certainly better than AVP.

I really liked that Predator; the Wolf Predator.

I like the fact that they named him after Keitel's character from Pulp-Fiction.

I really didn't like the human story line. I thought it was totally unnecessary to the story. I don't feel the audience as a whole really needed to "relate" to a human character.

...but then again, I wasn't there to "relate" to anyone. I came for the brawl.

Also, I didn't really care for the Predalien. Could someone please explain to me why it was able to lay eggs, multiple eggs from it's mouth into a preggers lady? I didn't get that...

...I also didn't like the ending. If the Predator was there to clean up the mess and leave no evidence, why did the writers feel it was necessary to nuke the whole city and leave no evidence? To me, it just seemed to defeat the purpose of having a Predator there to begin with...



OVERALL:

Predator + blood + guns + Aliens + poor acting + hot chicks = a fun time

Don't go into the theater expecting to see "Citizen Alien" or "Predator's List" and you'll have a little fun.

Originally Posted by bobamatt

Also, I didn't really care for the Predalien. Could someone please explain to me why it was able to lay eggs, multiple eggs from it's mouth into a preggers lady? I didn't get that...

...I also didn't like the ending. If the Predator was there to clean up the mess and leave no evidence, why did the writers feel it was necessary to nuke the whole city and leave no evidence? To me, it just seemed to defeat the purpose of having a Predator there to begin with...

First part, I don't recall the predaliens ever able to do that...I am guessing they wanted to add an effect without having a queen, because if it was 3 Aliens+Predailien Vs Predator, the movie wasn't going to be as good.

Second part, to answer that question easily...the human factor. The Predator was irrelevant to the factor of the humans, they didn't know really anything about the Predator. Not to mention they didn't even know a Predator was there. This movie in reference to the Alien Saga, is pretty much the point where they see that these aliens could be a excellant bio weapon. So when they saw the race was able to take out a town, they had to gain control of it by eliminating everything. They may have found something left over. The Predator gun was just a technology that they felt they could reverse engineer stuff out of. Learning better technology to better our own.

Hey Hunters,

I had to pop over to Malaysia over the weekend just to catch the movie as Singapore will only be showing it in Jan. 5 hour roadtrip including movie time as the roads were packed!

Anyhow, my 2 cents, overall, a little better with the gore than the first AvP. I mean, what's a Pred and Alien movie without the visceral bloodletting right?

However, the supposed continuity with the first AvP doesn't jive. What happened to the Huge ship that picked up SCAR? And where were the rest of the Predators...I saw at least 12 including the ELDER, at the end of the first AvP...

It was too dark and too up close in your face filming...couldn't see much of the action cept at times, and even those were a blur.

The saving grace was Wolf...Ian Whyte has really improved with playing a Pred. Alot of the grace prevalant with KPH's potrayal is finally seen in Wolf's movements.

The Home world bit was nice, short as it was...and you gotta love the Bio Wall.

My take..

Stay safe,

Tim.

I thought the movie was average. The fight scenes were awesome and some reminiscent of "aliens." A few things i would've changed is Jesse not getting killed (very easy on the eyes), predalien laying eggs in women, and the predator skinning the officer. We spend so much time developing the human characters; then having Jesse die was a kick in the face. What was the point? If they were killing off her character, we shouldn't develop her character (also taking precious screen time away from the predator). Common sense and rules we learned in the Predator films didn't seem like they applied here. The Predator was getting rid of evidence of their existence, so why did he leave his prized kill hanging for the humans to find. Also why did he kill the officer if he ran? In the Predator films the audience learned of the Predator's motives for killing. If a prey didn't have a weapon or appeared weak then he/she was unworthy. The officer may of had a gun, but he was definantly running away and not pointing a gun. Anyone agree or disagree?

Saw it on Thursday last week. I went in there expecting a violent, bloody Pred vs. Alien battle to the death, and it didn't disappoint. A lot of the acting from the human characters was laughable, but the Pred should be winning a few awards!

I agree with bobamatt's equation summing up the film:

"Predator + blood + guns + Aliens + poor acting + hot chicks = a fun time"

I actually didn't see it coming when that blonde chick died. I was thinking "Those other guys will come around the corner, shoot the Alien, and rescue the- Woah! Well, I was wrong..."

Originally Posted by Halo_1

However, the supposed continuity with the first AvP doesn't jive. What happened to the Huge ship that picked up SCAR? And where were the rest of the Predators...I saw at least 12 including the ELDER, at the end of the first AvP...

The ship in the beginning of the movie is the one with SCAR on it. I believe they put him on a smaller ship. Or, that was the ship and they just didn't go into detail about what happened to the ELDER...but I am almost positive that he went on a smaller ship...because when that thing came into the atmosphere and crashed...it was no where near the size of the one that picked up SCAR...purhaps the 2 ships met in space and transfered him over. Or...which is another thing I think happened...they didn't think about the fact that we saw the elder ship picking them up and the makers didn't think people would look that much into it.

Originally Posted by Satxer

The ship in the beginning of the movie is the one with SCAR on it. I believe they put him on a smaller ship. Or, that was the ship and they just didn't go into detail about what happened to the ELDER...but I am almost positive that he went on a smaller ship...because when that thing came into the atmosphere and crashed...it was no where near the size of the one that picked up SCAR...purhaps the 2 ships met in space and transfered him over. Or...which is another thing I think happened...they didn't think about the fact that we saw the elder ship picking them up and the makers didn't think people would look that much into it.

There's alot of assumption on the fact that this is what happen Saxter, but as a hardcore Pred/Alien Fan, it would be nice to actually have some proper continuity rather than alot of ifs bro. Still, you paint an interesting alternate continuity format.

Fact remains, SCAR was brought onboard the Huge Mothership at the end, and placed in the very same chamber we know that was seen in the huge Mothership from the beginning. And he seems to be in the very same chamber when the 'incident' happened.

Still, it's done with. Wolf was great...and so were the Aliens...but that's it for moi.

Stay safe,

Tim.

Did you and others go in your awesome Alien costumes Tim? Got any pictures if you did?

Originally Posted by never_ending_fett

Did you and others go in your awesome Alien costumes Tim? Got any pictures if you did?

Sorry bro, no pics and no suits. It was a last minute planned outing...in fact I was having dinner when my bud called and asked me about it. Took me 2 mins to decide, rush thru the rest of dinner, grabbed a quick shower and my passport and headed out the door.

Stay safe,

Tim.

Are you still doing the costumes for the Singapore opening?

Originally Posted by never_ending_fett

Are you still doing the costumes for the Singapore opening?

We did bro, and finished it. Singapore only wanted a pair, so the rest went overseas. I'll post some pics once the pics are offloaded from the cam.

Stay safe,

tim.

Originally Posted by Halo_1

There's alot of assumption on the fact that this is what happen Saxter, but as a hardcore Pred/Alien Fan, it would be nice to actually have some proper continuity rather than alot of ifs bro. Still, you paint an interesting alternate continuity format.

Fact remains, SCAR was brought onboard the Huge Mothership at the end, and placed in the very same chamber we know that was seen in the huge Mothership from the beginning. And he seems to be in the very same chamber when the 'incident' happened.

Still, it's done with. Wolf was great...and so were the Aliens...but that's it for moi.

Stay safe,

Tim.

Unless...the huge mothership has docking bays for smaller ships...in which they put Scar on one of the smaller ships within the Mother ship and when they got into orbit they had undocked the smaller ship to do it's seperate runs. That could be a thought on it.

Originally Posted by Satxer

Unless...the huge mothership has docking bays for smaller ships...in which they put Scar on one of the smaller ships within the Mother ship and when they got into orbit they had undocked the smaller ship to do it's seperate runs. That could be a thought on it.

Saxter bro, are you trying to somehow 'save' this movie

While I'm pretty sure the Mothership would have had smaller 'scout/drop' ships attached, to me, fact remains that in that very same chamber room where SCAR was laid to rest, was also the same room that fired the laser that dug the tunnel seen in the first AvP, remember? And that was definitely fired from the Mothership.

Stay safe,

Tim.

Not trying to defend it, I am just coming up with possiblities.

Let us not forget the most important part...
Here the predators have all this great technology, faster than light travel, plasma guns, targeting lasers, space ships, retracting nets etc. etc. etc. Yet one stray blast from a shoulder cannon blows a hole in the wall and the entire ship crashes. Uh, ya....riight...

Indicating it can't possibly be the mothership. Think of it this way, you shoot a gun in space...inside a space shuttle...you can more than likely rupture something. So imagine a energy blast, which I am sure is quite powerful. Where they didn't intend to have to deal with any kind of firing within the hull.

being a fan of alien,aliens,predator,predator 2 played the avp games till my eyes would bleed SOOOO I LOVED THIS MOVIE, come on guys its not ment to be a new ground breaking movie its a fanboy movie if you like action scenes stupid teenagers (LOL and of corse the black guy gets like 2 lines before geting owned and that blond chick what a moron LOL) and some people getn owned by space aliens its what you ask for, its a town with lots of aliens and 1 pred you think 1 alien is gonna sneak around and kill the whole cast ?!?! suspensfuly like alien NO it gonna take alot in a larger area, I went with my friend and she was jumping outa her seat the whole movie it really depends on what you expect and how much of a fan, its an action movie not horror like alien, maybe when you can scrounge up 20 million to make your own alien vs predator then do it till now sit back and watch what other people do with their money and minds nothings perfect if you go back and watch aliens it looks so cheese compaired to todays films but its still a classic .
love walshafett

Originally Posted by SOLOCHASER

I thought the movie was average. The fight scenes were awesome and some reminiscent of "aliens." A few things i would've changed is Jesse not getting killed (very easy on the eyes), predalien laying eggs in women, and the predator skinning the officer. We spend so much time developing the human characters; then having Jesse die was a kick in the face. What was the point? If they were killing off her character, we shouldn't develop her character (also taking precious screen time away from the predator). Common sense and rules we learned in the Predator films didn't seem like they applied here. The Predator was getting rid of evidence of their existence, so why did he leave his prized kill hanging for the humans to find. Also why did he kill the officer if he ran? In the Predator films the audience learned of the Predator's motives for killing. If a prey didn't have a weapon or appeared weak then he/she was unworthy. The officer may of had a gun, but he was definantly running away and not pointing a gun. Anyone agree or disagree?

the part about the cop he had a gun so its a fair fight he ran! um Hes Called a Predator for a reason he saw a chase he got his hunt on = dead cop in tree, he got rid of the aliens messes because *** are the humans gonna think when they find dead aliens/humans killed in such a strange way sure the preds leave their kills up hanging but if you see it from the preds view his mess no1 should find but they do lol alien mess well your gonna come across it sooner then a dude way up in a tree.....so he tried to cover up the big mess his buddies made from the first film ...

Originally Posted by walshafett

the part about the cop he had a gun so its a fair fight he ran! um Hes Called a Predator for a reason he saw a chase he got his hunt on = dead cop in tree, he got rid of the aliens messes because *** are the humans gonna think when they find dead aliens/humans killed in such a strange way sure the preds leave their kills up hanging but if you see it from the preds view his mess no1 should find but they do lol alien mess well your gonna come across it sooner then a dude way up in a tree.....so he tried to cover up the big mess his buddies made from the first film ...

Walshafett,

You called ALIENS a cheese???

Try posting that on the Hunter's lair, or the Legacy and see what kind of reponse you'll get dude. 8)

You are entitled to your own opinion but the fact remains that the Hunters have been considered honourable Hunters in every sense, as establish in P1 and more so in P2 and in the Graphic Novels that followed.

Wolf was considered one of the best Hunters around and for him to take out a running deputy and then skinned him for all to see, while trying to clean up the mess...just doesn't jive dude. Not with the 'tradition' set by the first few movies.

If anything else, yes, he has every right to take out the deputy for spotting him, but he should have destroyed the body, just as he did with the rest.

And one last note, punctuation please.

Stay safe,

Tim.

Originally Posted by Halo_1

Walshafett,

You called ALIENS a cheese???

Try posting that on the Hunter's lair, or the Legacy and see what kind of reponse you'll get dude. 8)

You are entitled to your own opinion but the fact remains that the Hunters have been considered honourable Hunters in every sense, as establish in P1 and more so in P2 and in the Graphic Novels that followed.

Wolf was considered one of the best Hunters around and for him to take out a running deputy and then skinned him for all to see, while trying to clean up the mess...just doesn't jive dude. Not with the 'tradition' set by the first few movies.

If anything else, yes, he has every right to take out the deputy for spotting him, but he should have destroyed the body, just as he did with the rest.

And one last note, punctuation please.

Stay safe,

Tim.

I also called Aliens a classic. All I was saying if you compared aliens to a more modern movie it looks like cheese. Not hating on the movie what so ever I like the dated look and feel to these films such as first starwars.

So if humans are different and have different thoughts and opinions and fallow different rules and laws who's to say these "honourable hunters" can't bend the rules once and awhile just like we silly humans do it's just a movie guys don't get to worked up, throw yourself into a strange situation your not gonna fallow everything you'v been taught to the T,You just might have to do something a little extreme.

On another Note anyone ever notice Cpl Hicks from aliens has the same shot gun he uses in terminator :P

Well...in Terminator it is actually different. Aliens he used a shotgun that had no stock on it to begin with. In Terminator, he found the average police shotgun that has a wood stock on it, in which he sawed off near the handle. They were close but 2 diff shotguns.

yea but i thought it was neat for them to do that though

Yeah, Kyle Reese and Cpl Hicks characters were both awesome. Would of been nice to see him in Alien 3...as for Terminator...I am hoping they bring Reese back for the next movie.

The thing that made me mad was they didn't go back to save Hudson but they went for the bratty kid. At least Hudson went out shooting.

Well, I finally got to watch this over the weekend. As a connoisseur movie critic, I would say it was a junk movie, made only to cash in on two dying franchises. However, as a fan of both franchises, I was very happy and very excited to finally see some action!!! The first AVP was such a letdown, not only having a super-weak story, but also having NO ACTION and the little action there was, was terrible! After years and years of wishing for a good AVP fight... I got it in AVPR! Thoroughly enjoyed seeing the Predator kick some Alien butt!!! The human element in the movie was totally forgettable. Not a single "charcter" there. Just cookie cutter meat for the grinder. Really sad and pathetic when you think back to the humans in Aliens and the humans in Predator. Each and every one was great. Oh well. Still got my Predator goodness and walked away happy!

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Well, I finally got to watch this over the weekend. As a connoisseur movie critic, I would say it was a junk movie, made only to cash in on two dying franchises. However, as a fan of both franchises, I was very happy and very excited to finally see some action!!! The first AVP was such a letdown, not only having a super-weak story, but also having NO ACTION and the little action there was, was terrible! After years and years of wishing for a good AVP fight... I got it in AVPR! Thoroughly enjoyed seeing the Predator kick some Alien butt!!! The human element in the movie was totally forgettable. Not a single "charcter" there. Just cookie cutter meat for the grinder. Really sad and pathetic when you think back to the humans in Aliens and the humans in Predator. Each and every one was great. Oh well. Still got my Predator goodness and walked away happy!

it's true.

there was more action between the humans than with aliens fighting the cleaner predator. which surprised me.


i was happier with the comics....

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Well, I finally got to watch this over the weekend. As a connoisseur movie critic, I would say it was a junk movie, made only to cash in on two dying franchises. However, as a fan of both franchises, I was very happy and very excited to finally see some action!!! The first AVP was such a letdown, not only having a super-weak story, but also having NO ACTION and the little action there was, was terrible! After years and years of wishing for a good AVP fight... I got it in AVPR! Thoroughly enjoyed seeing the Predator kick some Alien butt!!! The human element in the movie was totally forgettable. Not a single "charcter" there. Just cookie cutter meat for the grinder. Really sad and pathetic when you think back to the humans in Aliens and the humans in Predator. Each and every one was great. Oh well. Still got my Predator goodness and walked away happy!

Right on, Braks! It's all about the Preds.....and this one was the biggest bad-*** we've seen yet. I mean, look at him.... he already knows there's a special Hybrid running around Earth, and goes after him (and other Aliens) time and time again with no fear, where as one drone Alien took out two Preds in the first AVP, this one in AVP-R goes after multiple Aliens by himself and prevails in scenes. Also note he's the least armored Pred they've every had onscreen and yet he's the toughest they've portrayed.

Yea I noticed this pred is pretty lanky in avpr but kicks way more butt then all 3 beefy preds in avp. Looked like he could move around a lot more in this suit. so were those preds just the fat spoiled teenage preds that needed to get an alien work out? lol jk