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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:18 AM - 300 Leonidas Show-Off (finished tail) #1

    Well after many many months of delay and piddling around with companies trying to get a replica made I decided to do it myself with real horse hair and ostrich feathers. I am not 100% satisfied but it was a learning experience and the next go around should go much smoother as I made up the techniques as I went and found what worked and what didn't for me.

    All the hair is hand installed and glued in with hot glue (ouch, burnt the **** out of all my fingers....Many blister's were had lol). The tail is done but just not installed yet and the hair was dyed black to give it that on screen "solid" black look but in reality the hair had browns and blacks mixed it for the screen used when it was filtered out with the camera. The hair was hair sprayed up with random stuff I found at the store. Then later sprayed with a 3M tacky spray glue for a more permanent hold.

    Ok shut up Tim........... here are the pictures.....Finally







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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:28 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #2

    Awesome work Tim !

    I'd had plans to to a Leo lid a while back. Never even got to the research stage unfortunately. But it is far and away my favorite lid form 300. I think you've captured it very nicely :thumbup

    Any idea what they used for the film prop? Is it possible it was synthetic (nylon) so it would hold it's shape and stand up without assistance? This is where my mind was going but again, I just never got around to diggin into the details.

    Sweet

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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:37 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #3

    Quote fettpride said: View Post
    Awesome work Tim !

    I'd had plans to to a Leo lid a while back. Never even got to the research stage unfortunately. But it is far and away my favorite lid form 300. I think you've captured it very nicely :thumbup

    Any idea what they used for the film prop? Is it possible it was synthetic (nylon) so it would hold it's shape and stand up without assistance? This is where my mind was going but again, I just never got around to diggin into the details.

    Sweet

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    Synthetic was the route I was going to go so I could by pass all the hair straightening BS spray on stuff that goes with it. Unfortunately I couldn't find much in that area and the few companies I spoke with about creating a pre-made Mohawk wanted upwards up $500 for a mock up.

    After doing a bunch of research and Q and A of a few people that worked on the movie I found out the original helmets (their were 17 of them) were made with horse hair ostrich/peacock feathers so that's the route I end up going.
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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:47 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #4

    Wow? It must have been a pain in the neck for them. I had no idea. Thanks for the info

    Are you casting the receptacle into the lids, or are you adding them after the pull?

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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:51 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #5

    After the pull with bondo, I figured it was kind of dumb to have 2 molds just to have the a crest. Not to mention a big pain in the butt to cast, so I just have a separate mold piece for the crest that fits the ver2 helmet.
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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:55 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #6

    Very cool indeed. Thats why I was asking. I know these things are already a pain to cast and was curious if you came up with some sort of solution for it It's what I would have done too

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    Aug 15, 2009, 1:58 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #7

    Quote fettpride said: View Post
    Very cool indeed. Thats why I was asking. I know these things are already a pain to cast and was curious if you came up with some sort of solution for it It's what I would have done too

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    Yeah for sure, also saves on molding material which both you and I know costs a boat load :/
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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:03 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #8

    Looks awesome Tim! Is it just me or does the mohawk look a bit too tall?
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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:04 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #9

    And it's only getting worse

    I've found that I've had to come up with new and innovative ways to mold things these days to offset. Everything just short of cutting corners that matter

    Do you reinforce the nose bridges on yours? I stopped doing it. I was using a piece of 1/4 inch aluminum rod. What a hassle. It turns out that those without reinforcement were fine without anyway. 20/20 they say

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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:08 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #10

    Quote Predatormv said: View Post
    Looks awesome Tim! Is it just me or does the mohawk look a bit too tall?
    Yes sir, about an inch and a half to tall. Did some rough calculations and the highest point should be about 7 1/2"

    My scissors took a **** so couldn't fix it in time for the pictures but you get the general idea
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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:11 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #11

    Quote fettpride said: View Post
    And it's only getting worse

    I've found that I've had to come up with new and innovative ways to mold things these days to offset. Everything just short of cutting corners that matter

    Do you reinforce the nose bridges on yours? I stopped doing it. I was using a piece of 1/4 inch aluminum rod. What a hassle. It turns out that those without reinforcement were fine without anyway. 20/20 they say

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    Actually no, I have never broken a nose personally on my helmet. I cast them pretty thick in that area so that its got some extra strength. The weakest spot Ive come across with these helmets seem to be in the temple area where the eyelet cross over to the ear area. If dropped and landed on that area they tend to crack. I usually try to cast them thicker in these area's as well but its difficult task as you don't want to change how thick it is by to much otherwise its not even wearable.
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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:21 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #12

    Agreed. Those areas are just as bad (if not worse) than the squint of a Fett helmet. The downside is there is no visor in place for reinforcement

    But you watch. One of these days someone will take one of these buckets and put a smoke visor in one for laughs. And you'll know that he probably came from TheDentedHelmet.com

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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:24 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #13

    Hahah, I wouldnt put it past anyone........
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    Aug 15, 2009, 2:45 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #14

    Yea my helmet had a small crack happen right in that little eye edge. But it just happened from using that side to take the helmet on and off. It's not a big deal I reinforced it from the inside and made sure I just don't take it off like that anymore or carry it by that part.
  15. Aug 15, 2009, 3:02 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #15

    That is a beautiful piece man. Good work as always. I dig the fact the Mohawk is little taller but thats just me being that I am punk rocker at heart lol. I am in for one Tim. I am going to be up to my ears in helmets over the next few weeks (other acquistions in play, EVO, Mr. Bungle) but I don't want to miss this one if your rollin' it out on short run. Outstanding work bro, A+
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    Aug 15, 2009, 4:02 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #16

    Incredible, that looks extremely cool!!!
    I like the paint work on the bucket aswell!!
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    Aug 15, 2009, 10:09 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #17

    Very cool Tim!
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    Aug 15, 2009, 10:37 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #18

    Very nice!
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    Aug 19, 2009, 9:20 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #19

    Here are some more updated pictures in natural lighting







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    Aug 20, 2009, 1:08 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #20

    Very cool Tim. Looks fantastic!
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    Aug 24, 2009, 1:29 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off.......Finally #21

    Quote Mirax H said: View Post
    Very cool Tim. Looks fantastic!
    Thanks Thanks!!

    Is nice to finally get that done as its been a project that has dragged on for close to 8 or 9 months.
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    Aug 24, 2009, 1:40 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off (finished tail) #22

    It looks great Tim, now hurry up and give it a hair cut.
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    Aug 24, 2009, 3:48 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off (finished tail) #23

    Cool!!!! those cut marks are excellent.
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    Aug 26, 2009, 10:40 PM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off (finished tail) #24

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    Cool!!!! those cut marks are excellent.
    Just drawn out with a sharpie and etched in with the dremel hand "pen" attachment tool.
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    Sep 23, 2009, 9:16 AM - Re: 300 Leonidas Show-Off (finished tail) #25

    Thanks for the tip! I'll try to find that attachment tool over here.

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