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    Nov 18, 2012, 2:26 PM - WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #1

    Hi all !
    I'm currently working on the armor. I bought an Bobamaker's one which is amazing.
    After having read lots of threads, i begin my work.
    Threads which have inspired me are :
    - Attaching armour : tutorial
    - Stormtrooperguy' rotj armor rattlecancolors (for the method).

    My first step is : how to attach armor on the flakvest ?
    I saw differents methods. Some members use velcro but i have a friend who have an biker scout costume and he always has problems of armor parts which fall.
    Perhaps the velcro he uses is bad but as my armor is in fiberglass, i cannot allow that a part falls.
    So i'm going to use bolts.
    The most difficult, i think, is to transfert correctly the marks between the vest and the armor.So i decided to make a pattern using cardboard :
    1 - I put the collar on cardboard and i drew the outline of the part.
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    2 - I cut the shape leaving about 2 centimeters around .
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    3 - Then i use a wet sponge to soften the cardboard until it have consistency of dough. I use clamps to maintain the cardboard on the collar until the drying is complete (a airdryer is a good idea to make drying quickier).

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    4 - When drying is complete, i draw outline of the collar again and i cut the shape :
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    and here's a copy of the collar at no cost.

    5 - But, for me, the rigidity was not sufficient so i try to use a product to harden damaged wood. I tried this product last summer to fix a door and it worked very well. It's make with epoxy resin very liquid so it penetrates in the material.

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    with a brush, i dabbed the cardboard until it's filled with product(i use plastic film to protect the collar).
    I have to wait 24 hours before testing it

    If it's works, i will make the 3 holes for attachment.
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    Nov 18, 2012, 3:08 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #2

    Another question cames regularly is : what colors may i use ?
    And at this point the stormtrooperguy's tutorial is very useful. But in my country, i can't find rustoleum paints.
    So i decided to use other spray cans. My first idea was to use my aerograph but i'm not certain of the result on large areas like backplate.The second reason is that i will use the costume for trooping and i'm not sure that humbrol paint is sufficiently resistant.
    I found a brand which have a cool range of colors : Molotow.
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    To make correspondence between molotov and humbrol/rust-oleum paints, i use this site :
    Hunt Club Green Satin Ceramic Paints - 249074 - Hunt Club Green Paint, Hunt Club Green Color, Rust-Oleum Satin Porcelain, Pottery, Bisque, Greenware Ceramic Paint, 39564C - Art-Paints.com
    There is a large database for colors of differents brands. For each, they give the RGB or CMYK codes.
    For example, the Rust-oleum Hunt club green have CMYK(76, 47, 65, 35). Using Photoshop, i see that Black forest green of Molotow have CMYK(80, 44, 72, 35).
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    Or another color : summer Rustoleum Summer squach and Molotow Cashmere yellow
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    I'm not certain if it's a good method but with weathering, difference between colors may be reduced.
    I think i will buy a can to test it and see if it's compatible with others brands (like humbrol). There is another interesting point with rattlecans : there's a great choice of caps so you can paint easily large or little area.

    For the ESB colors, i found this list in an old topic :

    "Here's the list I got from MojoFett of humbrol colours:
    HUMBROL PAINT LIST


    Shoulders/knees
    
1. Halfords plastic primer, Grey

    2. 11 (Metallic silver)

    3. 74 Light yellow (around silver damage)

    4. 154 Yellow

    5. 82 Orange (added in tiny amounts to the yellow and over sprayed)

    6. 132 Orange/Red (add in tiny amounts to the yellow/orange and over sprayed)

    7. 79 Grey (added to the orange, orange/red to darken for weathered effect)


    Chest/ back and cod
    
1. Halfords primer

    2. 11 (Metallic silver)

    3. 99 Yellow (around silver scratches)

    4. 78 Olive green (for small areas of damage all over armour)

    5. 76 green as base green

    6. Complete over spray with grey 79 and black 33 for weathering.

    7. Seal with satin varnish.

    8. Painted using a layering technique with Humbrol Maskol liquid.

    Small damage can be scratched through to the silver base coat before sealing.

    "

    Is someone can confirm it?
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    Nov 19, 2012, 3:49 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #3

    Greetings in all!
    I continue to make my armor cardboard-copy.
    The result with the damaged wood product is great but i think it will be the same using starch for clothes. The copy has a correct rigidity to report holes on the vest
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    I think i will use product on the other side of the collar in the same time i will use it for the next part.

    today i copy a chest part in the same way. To go faster, i plunged directly the cardboard in a basin of warm water during 5 min. I use presses again during drying for the cardboard takes the shape.
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    waiting for tomorrow...
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    Nov 20, 2012, 2:55 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #4

    Another part finished...
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    Starting the next....
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    Nov 20, 2012, 4:09 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #5

    Finally after many hesitation, i will go for humbrol colors.
    I prefer harder and longer work but with more accuracy and satisfaction at the end.
    Nevertheless, if somebody is interested by rattle cans colors, here is the correspondences i made using Stormtrooperguy list :
    rustoleum/ Molotow / Humbrol
    Summer squach/Cashmere yellow
    Hunt club green/ Black forest green/ humbrol 74
    Spruce green/ Swamp green
    True orange / Dare orange
    line stripping / Cadmium yellow / humbrol 99
    ../ Signal yellow / Humbrol 154
    ../ Greyblue dark / Humbrol 79
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    Nov 21, 2012, 5:41 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #6

    Good day everybody
    Found an interesting mind map with floquils and Humbrol colors :
    Boba Fett Paint Colors - MindMeister Mind Map
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    Hope it helps
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    Nov 21, 2012, 6:39 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #7

    Quote StrumFett said: View Post
    Good day everybody
    Found an interesting mind map with floquils and Humbrol colors :
    Boba Fett Paint Colors - MindMeister Mind Map
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    Hope it helps
    Most (if not all) of the info is from TDH compiled by a member here and is very good for everyone who want to start a paint job.

    So far the armor looks good and (as always) you take your time with great patience to prepare all the parts of that particular build. Can't wait to see the attachment method applied to the armor and vest. And of course the paint job...

    Keep up the great work!
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    Nov 21, 2012, 6:42 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #8

    thats some smart thing with cardboard armour templates! saves a lot of hassle for that way of attachment, but i have chosen rare earth magnets, like the idea of no corrosion as with the humidity during the wet it will stain things.
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    Nov 22, 2012, 2:07 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #9

    Thanks a lot bros!
    I greatly appreciate your comments. You are really kind people!
    @ Rafal : hi Rafal! always happy to see you! I will do as well as i can but for painting i know that i can count on your stencils and it's for me a considerable help.
    @ Roba : i read your method of fastening in a thread and i think it's a brilliant idea. As i said in my first post, i have a friend who have problems with his scout trooper armor. I think that's you give me the solution...thanks

    So here's the situation today :
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    The last two parts are drying and i will use my wood product this week end before making holes and make transfert to the vest.

    I start to work on the collar/backplate attachment using this thread :
    collar and backplate (Rafal was even here to give the solution !)
    So i searched in my garage and i found this part :
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    At the beginning, it was a bar to hang on curtains and i cut 4 parts of about 5,2 centimeters ( 2in).
    I epoxied them 2 by 2.

    After i mark center of holes 1 centimeter (0.4 in) by leaving of each extremity. Using a metal drill bit of the same diameter than the bolt, i made the holes.
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    I turned back the parts and i use a drill bit to make a hole of almost the same diameter of the head of the bolt.
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    So heads of the bolts will be invisible. I just have to expoxy them but before, i want to transfert the holes on the cardboard pattern to make them correctly on the armor later.
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    to be continued...
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    Nov 23, 2012, 2:12 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #10

    Hi everyone!
    Today i decided to place the nuts into the studs.
    1 - I marked the center of each stud
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    2- I prepared the drill bit with a piece of tape to see when the depht would be sufficient.
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    3 - I made the holes and put in each a very tiny amount of epoxy filler to place correctly each nut.
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    4 - When dry, i filled aroud the nut with epoxy filler and sand it
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    i just have to primer them and correct the lacks of filler.
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    Nov 24, 2012, 6:24 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #11

    Hi !
    Just a pic of my finished cardboard armor :
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    Nov 24, 2012, 6:50 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #12

    Quote StrumFett said: View Post
    Hi !
    Just a pic of my finished cardboard armor :
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    It looks good! The KING of cardboard armors!
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    Nov 26, 2012, 2:46 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #13

    Thanks
    There's a lot of advantages on a cardboard armor : lightweight, price but don't forget to remove it before taking shower!
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    Dec 5, 2012, 3:53 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #14

    Very nice work so far. I hope to obtain a result at least half as good as yours !
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    Dec 5, 2012, 10:33 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #15

    Minor update today,
    I have finished the studs
    After filling around the nut, i primered them
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    and after 2 layers of silver :
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    Dec 6, 2012, 2:11 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #16

    Quote StrumFett said: View Post
    Minor update today,
    I have finished the studs
    After filling around the nut, i primered them
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    ... and the last layer WHITE: one stud with red on top (changed its place from outer right to inner left) and there was one 'optional' gray stud (outer left - cape stud) that was present only on the hallway scene (remnants of the Pre-Pro #3 suit) ==> Shoulder stud color question?.

    Keep up the great work!
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    Dec 7, 2012, 4:02 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #17

    Thanks Rafal!
    I've never seen that's the studs were white. Ok i will correct this.
    Undoubtedly, no detail escapes you...

    So today i worked on the collar. It's time to begin the attachment.
    My first step is to attach collar and backplate.
    1 - I use a stud that i aligned with the edge of the right side of the collar. Then i make a mark.
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    2 - I did the same thing at the other extremity of the right side
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    3 - I draw a line between the two marks
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    4 - I put correctly the metal bar and mark the center of the holes
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    5 - Then, using the first line, i drew a second one at a distance equal to half the width of the stud. I put back the location of the holes.

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    Tomorrow i will make the hole and mark the location of them on the backplate.
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    Feb 24, 2013, 8:31 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #18

    Aha, I've finally figured out what you painted onto your cardboard armor templates to stiffen them up!
    PC Products 16 oz. PC-Petrifier Wood Hardener-164440 at The Home Depot
    I have some of RKD's armor coming sometime in March, and I was fretting about getting the bolt-eyelet attachment alignment right.

    Any progress/luck with your attachment method, StrumFett?
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    Mar 13, 2013, 8:53 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #19

    really cool
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    Apr 16, 2013, 5:05 PM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #20

    Hi everyone !

    Sorry for this long silence but i had a lot of work and not a lot of time to make my costume. So now i will try to post regularly pics of my progress.
    I will start now with some pics i took in december when i was trying to adjust the collar and backplate :
    When marks on collar are done, I make the holes and test fitting with the metal plate
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    With the help of my wife, i put backplate and collar on me and use holes on collar to make marks on backplate.
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    This is the final result :
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    Apr 17, 2013, 3:31 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #21

    Hi !
    When i put the collar and backplate on me, I made marks on the flakvest. So it will be easier to know how to put the cardboad pattern later.
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    This is how i do to make holes on cardboard.
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    After i made marks on collar using cardboard
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    Apr 17, 2013, 6:33 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #22

    I'm glad you're back with your armor prep work! Everything looks great (also love that quick peak on the helmet paint job) and I can't wait to see the armor painted and attached to the vest! Just keep up the awesome work!
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    Apr 19, 2013, 5:11 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #23

    Quote Necronaut said: View Post
    Aha, I've finally figured out what you painted onto your cardboard armor templates to stiffen them up! PC Products 16 oz. PC-Petrifier Wood Hardener-164440 at The Home Depot I have some of RKD's armor coming sometime in March, and I was fretting about getting the bolt-eyelet attachment alignment right. Any progress/luck with your attachment method, StrumFett?
    Thanks for your interest Necronaut. I just start to mke attachment to vest. I hope it will be usefull for you.

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    Quote mandio222 said: View Post
    really cool
    Thanks !
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    Apr 19, 2013, 5:15 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #24

    Quote RafalFett said: View Post
    I'm glad you're back with your armor prep work! Everything looks great (also love that quick peak on the helmet paint job) and I can't wait to see the armor painted and attached to the vest! Just keep up the awesome work!
    Thanks a lot Rafal! I'm always happy to have your comments on my works and also your precious advices.
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    Apr 19, 2013, 5:35 AM - Re: WIP - Boba Fett ESB armor - Attachment and painting #25

    Hi !
    Today, i started fastening bolts on collar :
    First, I used epoxy dough, flattened with the box.
    With an eyelet, i pick small amount of dough and i put it on the marks on collar.
    I put the bolts on the dough and quickly put the cardboard pattern on bolts to be sure that the arrangement of the bolt will be correct.
    I just have to wait drying.
    Note : Depending of flatness of the back of collar (fiberglass like mine are less regular than vac formed one's) bolts can take differents angles. It isn't a big problem because most part of the bolt will be cut (i think i'll just keep 5 millimeters)

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