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WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Wow! You will do the belt templates too?! Awesome!

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thanks Rafal. And yes i'm currently working on the belt. I'll post some pics soon.

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    1000 Thanks for the patterns!!!!!!!!! are wonderfull!!!!!!!

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thank you very much SNOWAURE !

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thank you for hard work you put into this project...most helpful!

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    Thanks SabotKill ! this is a great reward to know that my work could be useful.

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Hi guys,
    Lot of time have past since my last post. Have few time to work on the belt. I helped a friend to fix his Rubies scout trooper helmet and it was a real challenge to make it accurate for a 501'st validation. Now i can again work on the belt and finish it.
    SO here's the belt overview with the differents measures.Templates will follow with how-to.
    A detail hit my attention, when looking at this pic below, it seems that the end of the belt is rounded.If i make a mistake i will correct the templates but it's the only ref pic i have.
    d-tail-arriere-png
    I use this ref pic to find belt's height
    belt_detail_-jpg

    8-belt-overview-jpg
    Last edited by StrumFett; May 8, 2012 at 1:33 AM.

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    Hi !
    Here's the first part of the templates.
    9a-belt-parts-1-jpg9b-belt-parts-2-jpg
    I will post A4 and LTR docs later (i need your opinion on measurements and shapes before to validate definitively the templates)
    I also worked on the belt structure. When looking at the ref pics, i have the feeling that the edges are sharped. So i make several attempts and this is the results :
    1 - Just two layers of leather :
    test-without-cardboard-jpg
    IMO the structure is too flexible and with the weight of the pouches it will cause the belt to sag.
    2 - With cardboard
    test-cardboard-jpg
    The rigidity is better and i think there will be no problem curving it.

    And there is a comparative between the 2 solutions and a real leather belt :
    comparative-belts-jpg
    In order from the top : belt with cardboard, real belt, belt without cardboard.

    In your opinion, which solution is better?

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    I'm a big fan of your project and you did an excellent job so far! Here is an image I did by adding a mirrored lower part of the ammo belt to creat a whole:

    ammo-belt-measurement-jpg

    It seems that you need to lengthen the sewing with 12mm, but all the other parts looks good to me.

    I think the double layered ammo belt (around 2-3mm total thickness) without cardboard is the best choice because when you put the belt on you it should be tight and not loose, this way the ammo pouches won't hang on the belt. But if you use thinner sinthetic material, then the cardboard support is an excellent addition.

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thanks Rafal, you are incredible!
    So there's the corrected version. I'll post a tutorial for making the belt from the templates.
    8-belt-overview-jpg
    For the structure you have conviced me and i will go for a 2 layer belt.
    I'm currently working on the weathering of the pouches, trying differents methods and the results seems encouraging.
    I update post #1 adding zip files with documents 8, 9a and 9b.
    Now that the tutorial is almost finished, i can calculate the total cost of the belt :
    For the structure of the pouches, i use plywood (cost 3$) but using MDF, heavy cardboard, foamboard... divide the cost by 2 to 4.
    For the leather layer, the cost of the material i used is approximately 7$ for a piece of 40 x 55 in . I think that is sufficient with optimization.
    For the magnet, the cost is approx 3$
    The rest is constituted by glue, sewing cotton, tape, velcro. Cost is approx 7$ (difficult to calculate because i had already those).
    So i think that the maximum cost is approx 20$.


    When my belt will be finished (sewings with dremel are going to make me crazy), i will have time to work on my next project : Light and sound ESB blaster from scratch (using WOF templates) for 20 $ (again ).

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thank you for sharing! They all look great!

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thanks Wastedwishes !

    Here is the belt assembly tutorial. It's the method i used but others are possible. I hope to post pics of my belt finished soon (just hundreds of holes to do for sewings...).
    10-belt-assembly-1-jpg11-belt-assembly-2-jpg12-belt-assembly-3-jpg13-belt-assembly-4-jpg

    Next (and last) step will be the weathering.

    I update Post #1 with the files
    Last edited by StrumFett; Nov 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM.

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Free bump!

    Any updates of the finished belt and ammo pouches?

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    Hi Rafal !
    Thanks for your bumping !
    Pouches are finished. i've just to do sewings on the belt itself
    I will post pics soon.
    Have a lots of work with others components of my costume.(i'm working on a functionnal blaster).

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Hi all!
    Here is some pics of finished pouches. For the belt, i had to redo it because of bad quality glue ( hundreds of sewing lost....)
    cot-jpgdessous-jpgdos-jpgface-jpg
    For the sewings i see on ref pics that they aren't completely white. so i use tea to color them.
    The sewings in the belt are still missing
    ceinture-jpg
    And a pic took during assembling step
    global-jpg

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    The pouches looks really good and the unfinished belt too! What about that helmet? More images... maybe in a new thread?

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Thanks Rafal!
    One of the reasons that explain why i take so much time since my last post is that i'm working on differents parts simultaneously.
    The helmet is one of them. I started it last year and i was greatly helped by your amazing stencils.

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Hi everyone,
    Have just finished sewings of my belt.....I think it would be better using a sewing machine but i'm happy to see how it turned
    dscn7534-jpgdscn7537-jpg

    i have just to put the buttons and the gromets
    For the button, they are already primered
    dscn7539-jpg

    i found an Humbrol color that can match (in reality it's more dark and brown than on the pic).

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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    It looks excellent! There's one last thing you must do to achieve the look of the original ammo belt: the way the ammo pouch's flap is slightly folded to follow the top and front edges.

    dscn7537-jpg

    You might do the edges with a hot iron or by holding the folded flap in a vice (or something).

    Awesome build and attention to details!

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    Thanks a lot Rafal!
    you're absolutely right (as always) about the flap. I work on a minor modification that will fix this problem (due to the fact that the pouch is empty) using magnets.
    I just want to finish the buttons and gromets before to make the mod.

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    Finished buttons. Painted with Humbrol 160 and 2 layers of satin coat:
    dscn7564-jpg

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    Hi!
    Here's the belt with buttons and grommets.
    dscn7592-jpgdscn7593-jpgdscn7594-jpg

    I must fix the problem of the flaps as RafalFett pointed out it to me.
    And it's time to start another part of the costume.

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    Oh my... That ammo belt looks killer, the best I've seen so far! Can't wait to see it 'fixed'. I'm surprised that nobody used your templates so far. I love your works and it seems that you have a lot of fun doing each and every part, especially that you work like an expert. Just keep up the quality work!

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    WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Great job Brother!!! I enjoyed my coffee checking all your pics. I would love to make my own version with white vinyl then paint it. All the pre-pro's and promotional Fetts had a cheap vinyl look to them. Just my opinion but I feel a painted vinyl look is more accurate than a new looking leather ammo belt.
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    Re: WIP Ammo pouches fully functionnal

    Syper said: View Post
    Great job Brother!!! I enjoyed my coffee checking all your pics. I would love to make my own version with white vinyl then paint it. All the pre-pro's and promotional Fetts had a cheap vinyl look to them. Just my opinion but I feel a painted vinyl look is more accurate than a new looking leather ammo belt.
    That's true! But this means that when you paint all the hard parts, you must paint it first white then silver and then the rest of the colors? The original suit was all white but when the character change occured, they sanded the white and started all over again with the different paint schemes. Or you can always do some 'reverse engineering' (method used by superjedi in this thread ==> Weathering my new 99centTaco ammo belt) by painting some fine white scratches to replicate the white-under-the-paint look.

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