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    Nov 16, 2005, 1:14 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #26

    umm....
    also one ref pic is ESB & one's ROTJ, time may have changed the color somewhat if it's the SAME belt.
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    Nov 16, 2005, 1:37 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #27

    Yes. The top two are mine, the third MoM, and the fourth ESB production still. I don't know whether it's been determined if the belts were the same from movie to movie. After all, the pre-pro belt(s) were definately brown. Since the ESB & ROTJ belts are both maroon, they would've at least been dyed with the same process, whether or not they were physically the same belt.

    Hey, in a related question, where do the ESB belt pouches attach to? The ammo belt, or the girth belt? In ROTJ, they're clearly on the ammo belt, and you can see the loops for them. On the ESB, they appear to come out from under the ammo belt, overlapping the girth belt. Any insight?

    Shinobi
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    Nov 16, 2005, 8:46 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #28

    So I'm now convinced that the dharma dye simply doesn't work. I just practically boiled it for an hour.. Once again, washed out white. White... Weird. Seems it would have at least stained it. Nope. This stuff must suck. I'll have to try plain old Rit. See if it does the same thing before I make the final verdict on the Procion.

    Chris
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    Nov 17, 2005, 11:38 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #29

    So, the Rit dye seems to have been the way to go. Not only did it take, I got a pretty good match to the MoM color (see pic below). Looks even closer in person, as my camera skills aren't the best. The camera seems to have killed the nice red tint too the belt.

    The recipe I used is as follows:
    First you need a pot big enough to hold enough water for the belt to sit in and move freely. I used a 20qt stock pot that I got at Big Lots for $6.99. There needs to be probably at least 2 gallons of water in it for the belt to move freely. Put it on the stove and turn it on high.

    In a smaller container like a 1 qt pyrex cup, add:
    1 package (6 tsp) Rit Scarlet
    3/4 package (4 tsp) Rit Cocoa Brown
    2 tsp Rit Wine
    Gradually add small amounts of hot water. Just enough to work the powders into an even paste. Add 2 cups hot water and mix until dyes are dissolved and add to dyebath.

    Dissolve 1/2 cup plain salt into 2 cups hot water and add to dyebath. Be sure to do this after the dye has been added and mixed into the dyebath.

    Add belt and stir frequently until dyebath reaches just below boiling and simmer there for 10 minutes.

    Add 2/3 cup white vinegar and simmer an additional 15 minutes stirring occasionally.

    Remove from dyebath and rinse belt until water runs clear. If it doesn't look dark enough for you. Put it back in the dyebath and let it stay in longer this time.

    Hope this helps.
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  5. Nov 18, 2005, 9:34 AM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #30

    Well Chris and I have been communicating back and forth and hard at work to get a formula down for you guys. I think between the two of us and much grief we may have a good result.
    Heres mine below.....
    I had tried to dye mine with the wine and dark brown as stated before, so I took a bleach wash to it and the results are below. I just let it sit till it was as light as I thought it was going to get and washed it really well and dried it.

    Really pretty huh?? Nice shade of violet.. uke
    Then I redyed it with a combination of the RIT cocoa brown and scarlett.
    I did the same as Chris, I used a large stainless stock pot I use for dying stuff and make sure there is room for the belts to move other wise the color is uneven.
    I filled the pot to within 4 inches of the top about 2 gals or so, brought the water to a rolling boil like when you cook pasta.
    I added the cup of salt and 1 tbls. of detergent as stated on the box.
    I added a full box of the cocoa brown and 1/2 of the scarlet box, stirred really well to mix. Then add your girth belt and be sure you wet it, don't put it in dry.
    I brought back up to a boil and turned it down to a simmer, voila girth belt soup. J/k sounds like a receipe.
    I let it simmer for and hour and keep it moving, guys in other words don't leave it sit for an hour, stir it occasionally to keep the color even too.
    Oh and one other note becareful to not stretch it whilst in the hot water, it may have sag on some of the strands in the end, like on mine on the bottom strand at the right.
    Be sure what ever you stir it with is either metal so it won't stain or something you can throw away like a wood paint stirrer you can pick up at Home Depot. Be aware anything including your fingers will stain!!! So don't splash the dye.
    After my hour was up I took a big glass bowl to move them out of the pot to the sink. Give them a good rinse with HOT water first, so have the hot water running. Gradually turn the temp down to cool as your final rinse this will help set the dye. Just be sure the water runs clear. Be sure to clean your sink if its white right after you rinse them!! I put them back into the bowl to take outside.
    I didn't get much shrinkage, not noticable at least. So I hung mine outside to dry yesterday in the 85 degree heat! Along side my ESbbjumpsuit to try and lighten the dye on it a bit, my neighbors must have thought I was nuts!
    So here are the final results;

    It is sooooo much better than the results I got with the Dark brown and wine.
    Its a great auburn shade, and I am relieved its over.
    Thank you Chris for all your input as well, and trying different dye options.
    So hopefully with the above results from Chris's and mine you can come to some sort of conclusion as to how to approach the issue.
    Any ???? just drop me a pm, and have fun its a messy job and your going to have to do it.
    Christi
    P.S. Pete yours is the one on the left, hope you like.
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    Apr 18, 2006, 6:17 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #31

    This may be a dumb question...I found a nylon version of the girth belt and was concerned whether or not I could dye it?

    Is this possible or does anyone think it would be problematic?
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    Apr 18, 2006, 9:21 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #32

    Quote MacRory said:
    This may be a dumb question...I found a nylon version of the girth belt and was concerned whether or not I could dye it?

    Is this possible or does anyone think it would be problematic?
    It won't take the dye as well as mohair. It will take a little color, but not much.

    Your best bet - Try it and see what happens.
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    Apr 18, 2006, 9:47 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #33

    Quote Ripcode said:
    It won't take the dye as well as mohair. It will take a little color, but not much.

    Your best bet - Try it and see what happens.
    It's only $4 plus s/h so I'll try it out. Besides it being nylon it is perfect.
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    Apr 18, 2006, 11:02 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #34

    Quote MacRory said:
    It's only $4 plus s/h so I'll try it out. Besides it being nylon it is perfect.
    It it doesn't take dye, you can spray paint it with very good results.
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    Apr 19, 2006, 11:26 AM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #35

    I followed these instructions to dye my (ebay $10) mohair girth belt. (rit dyes ($5)


    came out perfect!

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    Apr 19, 2006, 1:35 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #36

    Quote Ripcode said:
    It it doesn't take dye, you can spray paint it with very good results.
    The spray paint won't rub off will it? Or is there a specific brand that you would recommend in this scenario. Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated.
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    Apr 19, 2006, 1:41 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #37

    I used automotive fabric paint for mine that I got at an auto parts store after I found out that my girth wouldn't take the dye. I think it'll wear better than spray paint.
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    Apr 19, 2006, 2:32 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #38

    I bought a mohair girth from the chubby pony, mine cost me $12. I used DM's method and got great results.
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    Apr 19, 2006, 2:38 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #39

    Quote Christo Fett said:
    I used automotive fabric paint for mine that I got at an auto parts store after I found out that my girth wouldn't take the dye. I think it'll wear better than spray paint.
    Nice... I didn't know they had that!
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    Apr 19, 2006, 2:39 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #40

    Quote mrgr8ness said:
    I bought a mohair girth from the chubby pony, mine cost me $12. I used DM's method and got great results.
    100% mohair girths are hard to find. I've yet to find one. And trust me, I've been looking.
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    Apr 19, 2006, 4:51 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #41

    They had just sold the mohair girth at Chubby Pony when I looked yesterday but I saw the nylon one there as well and figured I'd better see if I can fix that up. All the other tack shops online that I looked at didn't have these "corded" girth belts.

    I've emailed a few people and they ask me if I'm making a Boba Fett costume because that's usually why they get solicited LOL
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    Jul 19, 2006, 9:38 AM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #42

    Here is another source for girth belts http://www.horseloverz.com/Centaur-N...pr-179174.html . I bought 2 of these one 38in (on backorder) and one 40in (38in buckle to buckle after dyed). The 40 in dyed great didn't have to use acetone either. I used Darth Mule's recipe loosly as a guide . I will try to post a pic and the actual recipe I used in the next couple days.
    Mark
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    Jul 23, 2006, 11:10 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #43

    finally getting back to posting pics and the recipe I used for dyeing my girth.
    This is basically Darth Mule's method with some changes

    I started with 16 cups of water on the stove in a big pot at almost a boil.

    Then I used liquid RIT dye 4 table spoons of Dark Brown and 3 table spoons of Scarlett

    I put the dye in a 2 cup glass measuring container and added enough hot water to have 2 cups of liquid in the container.

    I then added this to the pot on the stove. The rest I followed Darth Mule's method as follows except I only simmered 5 min after adding the vinegar as my belt was starting to look very dark.
    Dissolve 1/2 cup plain salt into 2 cups hot water and add to dyebath. Be sure to do this after the dye has been added and mixed into the dyebath.

    Add belt and stir frequently until dyebath reaches just below boiling and simmer there for 10 minutes.

    Add 2/3 cup white vinegar and simmer an additional 15 minutes stirring occasionally.

    Remove from dyebath and rinse belt until water runs clear. If it doesn't look dark enough for you. Put it back in the dyebath and let it stay in longer this time.
    I added 2 images one with flash more red and one without brownish
    Mark
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    Jul 24, 2006, 1:09 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #44

    Then I used liquid RIT dye 4 table spoons of Dark Brown and 3 table spoons of Scarlett



    Are you talking about the powder for of Rit dye or the liquid kind in a bottle?
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    Jul 24, 2006, 3:27 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #45

    I used the liquid form that comes in a bottle.
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    Jul 24, 2006, 8:14 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #46

    Well the last one didnt take dye at all so i painted it. just bought a new one that will take dye.

    I did find out the hard way that if you walk into an actual western tack shop and ask for an "english mohair girth belt" the workers will look at you like your stupid and say "A WHAT" the moral of the story is the actual name in a mohair cinch.

    there was a recipe a few years ago using scarlett and wine red, i will try to find it and link it. i have these colors and will try it since i have no brown
    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showt...?t=2769&page=3
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    Jul 27, 2006, 12:29 AM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #47

    ok i dyed mine with great results, came out like shinobis above, heres what I did

    2 1/2 gallons very hot water on stove
    added 1/2 cup of salt and 2 4 finger pinches of powder detergent
    stirred
    1/2 bottle of Rit Wine Red
    strirred
    1 bottle of Rit scarlett
    stirred
    wet belt with hot water and added to dye for 30 minuted stirring about ever 5 minutes

    rinsed belt with cold water until water coming off was pink

    ran through warm wash cycle w/ 1/2 cap of liquid detergent

    it is still pretty damp in the pic

    BTW there was one more of these at the tack shop I went to, size 40



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    Aug 9, 2006, 5:27 PM - Re: Well I'm Taking the Plunge - Girth Belt dying #48

    when dieing these do you have to take shrinkage into consideration? I was tole mine is from crazy4bobafett and it was kind of died, very pink, looks to be cotton.

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