Webley Vs. Nagant

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    Webley Vs. Nagant

    I was taking a look around to find a real Webley and it seems next to impossible without dropping a lot of cash on one. Then I thought about getting a non-firing replica and still nothing, but then something hit me. This gun looks a lot like the Nagant revolver. I can tell there are a few differences between the two but I wanted to get everyone's take on this. Because I have a pile of nagant revolver parts around and they are pretty cheap to get new, I figured i could give one of these guys a try. What do you all think? Close enough or look some where else?

    Minor things can be banged out in the final product.



    This is the Webley
    Webley Revolver

    This is the Nagant
    Nagant Revolver

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Aren't you looking for a Webley Flare gun??? And not a revolver??

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    All the webley flare guns that I found had very curved handles. The Webley Mark IV was the closest thing I found to the blaster.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Ahh ok, i see what you are talking about. But the revolvers them selves look very close and could be made into one. Sorry i was misinformed.

    Still with the revolver, you could cut the cylnder out and add the new prop barrel in there. Also, putting the stock on the frame wouldnt be to hard either with the removal of the grips and custom fabricating one.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Dude talk to sidewinder he sell kits or fettdad he sells whole replicas already done up

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Very cool. My whole point of bringing this up was to see if I could make something close to it out of real metal and real gun parts. It is something I would more or less like to see if I can do.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    There are quite a few other marks of webley flare gun that would make a good base which are more common and cheaper.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Talkren said: View Post
    Very cool. My whole point of bringing this up was to see if I could make something close to it out of real metal and real gun parts. It is something I would more or less like to see if I can do.
    Hey there... for trooping purposes a resin replica might be lighter (cheaper?) and would cause less of a problem than carrying around real gun parts.

    It all depends on what you are going to do with it.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    although we've hopefully cleared up the confusion about the base gun used for the prop, i honestly don't see the similarities between the two revolvers you've posted. in the pics you've posted i don't see how one could be mistaken for the other, they just look too different.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    The webley EE3 isnt even a revolver what would make you want to use a revolver period? Its a big difference in every aspect

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    what he said

    you'll find that this is a very detail oriented board. "close" usually means it's within a millimeter or two to the original.

    in a practical sense, the problem with a revolver vs. flare gun is the grip. the flare gun has a grip designed to mount the stock. if you use a revolver, you'll then have a lot of work ahead of you cutting apart and rebuilding the grip to mount the stock bracket. doesn't seem worth the fuss for something that's not going to be super accurate in the end anyway.

    they don't come up often, but there was a run a few years back of bronze casts of the webley flare gun. i picked one up for around $600 if i remember right. WAY cheaper than getting a real flare gun (though some day i will get one!)

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Well like I had said, I was misinformed about the base of the gun. Some one had told me it was built off of the mark IV revolver not the mark I flare gun. Seeing as though I do gun smithing as part of my income, I figured I could give it a try. I didn't mean to stir the waters or anything, frankly I am embarrassed and I do apologize for not doing my research better.

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    it's cool dude, we're all here to learn how to make a better boba!

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Oh not your fault you were misinformed brother...thats why this place is here. Maybe you can get you a kit though and build you a nice resin one.

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    yeah, nothing to be sorry about. it's always best to ask before you jump into something

    think of it this way... you just saved yourself a bunch of money!

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    Re: Webley Vs. Nagant

    Actually, you're not far off. Many of the parts from the Webley & Scott MkIV revolver are interchangeable with the No.1 MkI flare gun. The frames are nearly identical, including the grip area. The stock bracket will fit the revolver just fine, though it may constitute an NFA SBR.

    I have a Federal Laboratories No.1 Mk1 'gas gun' (used in the 1960-70's by police to launch tear gas at protesters) that is identical in every way (except the finish) to the W&S. In fact, based on some of the manufacturing stamps (Broad Arrow marks, matching serials numbers, etc.), I think what Fed Labs did was acquire some surplus WWI/WWII No.1 MkI's and simply refinish them in chrome (or nickel?).

    As for the Nagant, you would have to make new grip panels, but the overall shape of the frame is very similar. It might be a lot of work fabricating all of the other necessary parts to make it look like the flare gun, but the frame is a good start.

    Here's my Fed Labs No.1 MkI:






    If you can use detailed pics of any particular area or specific piece, let me know.

    EDIT: BTW, this thing weights 7lbs.
    Last edited by Geber Teg; Jan 30, 2011 at 3:32 AM.

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