Prymer13. You are down for Full paint.
Prymer13. You are down for Full paint.
Oooh. Look at this. I tried the ROTJ cone on the Rubber Webley...Perfect fit. Squeaks as you push it the full way on. Wow.
I'm on Yahoo IM as firstname.lastname@example.org if you guys want to chat real time.
Please, no sexual chat though...unless you are some hot Boba Fett chick or something. LOL....Just kidding.
Ken the Elvis trooper made the cone for me. Very nice guy.
Can't wait to see the ESB version!
I'll have some pics here soon.
Here's my personal, painted rubber webley with the ROTJ cone by Elvis Trooper.
Heh. Yep. The nozzle is awesome. It fits nice and tightly on the gun barrel.
Looking forward to the ESB Blaster. Sweet job! :)
Here are some pictures of the connectors for the ESB version. I molded real connectors, machined them out to be molding friendly.
LOL. <speaking like a tour guide> And in the far rear you can see a casting of the Minority Report shotgun. And in the middle a casting of the Minority Report Spider.
The side "rings" will probably have to be closed instead of pass thru as shown. I doubt that the rubber will flow through that small of an opening easily.
Here are a few more detailed shots of the parts. These "masters" are finished and will now be molded again.
What are those connectors from? I think I recognise them but I don't know where from...
Those connectors are original found parts. Molex industrial connectors to be exact... right?
Looking **** good there!!
The connectors are molded from the Molex connectors. I molded the originals, cast them in pour-a-cast and then machined them out to give back some of the detail. The grey is due to trying to add some black pigment to the pour-a-cast. It didn't come out black as you can see.
Man, the more you show the more I drool :drool
What industry uses molex?
Are they for electrical connections?
copied from prior postings;
"The connector is an AMP .200" Commercial MATE-N-LOK 6 way pin-housing with a latch locking mechanism. AMP part# 1-163035-0."
Yes.....Mr. Hand Schaub knows.... Listen to the Hand......
Well that explains it... I've seen these things hundreds of times!
Never figured that they were that part though... wow, how annoying.
LOL. Truthfully, I'm glad that all you guys know what part is what. I'm very new to this and personally wouldn't know one scope from the next.
Those connectors came out so **** clean!
Oh stop it. No no really. Oh ok. Go ahead.
Dude you kick a$$!
Can you do a mold of me, so I can have a substitute when my wife starts bitching about the money I am pouring into this project? :D
LOL. I'm glad everyone is interested in this project as much as I am. I can't wait to see the ESB version out of the mold. The ROTJ version will follow shortly after. I need some parts for the ROTJ version if anyone out there has some clean originals that I can mold. Let me know.
I've just updated the list again. If you are interested but are thinking of buying at a later date, please at least let me know so I can run extra parts. I will do another run by the Summer time if you miss this run.
this is looking sweeter and sweeter every time I see it. I"m so glad i'm on the list. Can you update me to the fully painted version!
Oh, just out of curiosity, are you going to be molding the scopes out of rubber? If I were to get hold of a real scope would you be able to put it on instead of a rubber one? I just love being able to look through them. If not, no biggie.
You have been upgraded. The scopes are designed to be rubber. If you'd like, I can leave the scope off of yours. You can always attach it later if you want. The scope will be glued in place. You can use pipe clamps or whatever to attach to the rubber EE-3. Let me know.
ahh, if it's glued then go ahead and put it on like the others. I've already had one break in half just above the trigger guard...don't want to take chances with another.
LOL. These don't break. You could just glue it back if the glue let go. Unlikely that the glue would let go.
Yea...I saw those commercials where the guy is suspended by his construction helmet in that I beam too!
That stuff is powerful!
LOL. Well, I would go testing this rubber gun and glue by hanging from it but it will definately hold up to a large amount of abuse.
Okay guys. We are coming up on the close date of the ESB EE-3 blaster run. The list will close Monday January 31st. The guns are in progress already. The sample EE-3 will be complete for show and tell by by Monday also. Payment will be due by Friday, February 4th. If you can't make this date, please let me know and I will work with you as best possible.
John, sir, those look amazing. Even while you are sick you do great work. Incredible.
WOW! John that drop cloth is CLEAN!
Oh yeah....and the Webley KICKS A$$ too! :lol
I love how nice the weathered brass grips look!
I had to modify the mounting stand-offs for molding. I hope they are okay. And I forgot to show the final rubber split connector. Not beautiful but I think it will work.
:thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :fettesb
LOL. I just looked at my close ups of the scope parts. I did a quickie job trimming. I shouldn't have posted these pics yet. Oh well.
I am in awe!
I cant wait to have mine!
Thanks very much.
Unreal!!!! I can't believe how great that is turning out!! This is very exciting! Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on one of these. AMAZING!
I'm glad the interior is solid. It works better for the rubber and I believe it to be more exact.
I got to throw these things around when I visit john awhile back...guys, this stuff is AWESOME ! I had my hesitations with rubber,but when he handed me a sample trooper gun I **** near fell off my rocker. Truly a master of his craft !
Here's a few Perspective shots to give you an idea of how far the Flash Tube sticks out of the barrel.
If you look at this pic you can see the Scope Mounting Brackets are solid so I think it is good you made yours solid.
Here is a great shot of the barrel length
I hope these help to make the determination as to how far the barrel will stick out.
Very cool. Thanks. I will be able to determine that with Autocad. Thanks Eddie.
I scaled some pics that I had in CAD and it appears to be between 4 5/8" and 4 3/4"...or so.
Cool Thanks dude. I'll make that happen.
Ugh. I didn't realize I was missing a part. I need to get a hold of one of these so I can mold it. Does anyone have one that I can buy or borrow that is okay with me molding it?
HEEEELLLLLLPPPPP! I want to finish this project!
what is it?
That is part #65 (Connecting Rod) from the Revell Visable V8 Model Kit. The model has been a large part of the Greeblie world as far as Star Wars is Concerned. This particular part is visable on the EE3 right above the Trigger Assembly as shown in this picture:
Hopefully we can find someone that has one of these for John to mold for the gun to avoid any further delay. So come on peeps! Pull your resources and lets help get this together!
Here is a drawing I did to show the comparison in 3D.
The flash tube extends out 6".
Hope this helps.
Got it. 5 1/2" That's what I'll do.
Is this the correct V-8 model kit?
I don't think so, that looks like the new model which has different pieces.
Oh. of course, it couldn't be that easy.
hmm... I'll see if that kit is lying around here (being my local area) lots of Model builders around here... might find it. I hope!
Actually that IS the model!
It has been re released several times over the years.
All the parts have stayed the same for the most part except a few parts that have changed since the 1977 model.
This one however should have the part your looking for.
I thought that that part was only in the preproduction photo's and not the actual screan used one. am i wrong?
Man. I have no clue. Should I make the part and put it on?
Okay, here's the latest. These pictures are bad. I used the flash and it created some artifacts that aren't necessarily there. Anyway, What do you think?
Hold off on the 5 1/2". I just found out that the barrel clamp goes around the Flash tube. So it looks like more of the Flash tube is exposed.
I'll have to adjust the drawings and get the new dimension.
The clamp in the picture doesn't look like it goes around the flash tube....
I have revised the post above with a new image and a 6" dim for the flashtube extension.
I got a post over on the RPF from Chris Trevas from the The Parts of Star WarsThe clamp fit right up against the front of the barrel making it difficult to separate the two.
What is the length barrel on your master?
The real tube is more than 6" so when I mold it, I will mold it for 6" long. Thanks very much. You caught me just in time.
Man that is looking nice!
the ring doesnt go on the flash but the verry end of the barrle
Actually, if you read through this thread:
You will find that the agreed upon consensus is that the placement of the clamps versus the length of the barrel does not match up and that the scope Has to be mounted to the Flash Tube.
THere is some debate as to whether the front mounting bracket was positioned that way for asthetic reasons or because it further helped to secure the flash tube into place.
Bottom line... Front Bracket connected to flash tube.
:doh i see
Never mind covered above.
Does everyone really believe that it was intentionally placed on the flash tube? I guarantee that they could've held the flash tube in via butal or some other piece o' **** adhessive. I bet the scope mounts just slid forward for some of the shots because the barrel is slightly tapered.
The dimensions confrim the clamp being on the Flash tube. The best way would be to compare the scope mount locations. On my wireframe the forward face of the aft scope mount is 3" forward of the intersection of the barrel and the front of the chamber.
your right. but lokking at my own flash tube and measuring out 6inches. it looks way to long. even 5.5 looks loke it's pushing it. but 5inches exactly looks about right. i sudgest anyof you guys to do the same. id like to here your veiws on this. im not trying to be a pain but i would hate to see a beutiful thing ruined.
Me too. I'd like to know how long to make this thing. And do I have to mount the scope on the flashtube? That just seems silly to me but if that's what you guys want then I will.
Mr. Wizard. you are very helpful and I appreciate it.
Id say do one pic with what wizard says (scope attached to flash tube ) and one pic with the scope mount on the verry end of the barrle. and we can deside from there:)
After studying the pictures in great detail and adjusting the scale and the position of the perspective of the barrel’s wire frame I am convinced that the clamp is on the flashtube and that the flashtube is 6" long.
With that said if the clamp were to be moved to the gun barrel then the flashtube would have to be shortened to account for the difference otherwise it would look like the flash tube extends out too far and to keep the proportions then the tube would have to be about 5 ¼”.
It is ultimately up to what the buyers want. I am just reporting what I have found and as much as I would like to own one of these beauties it is not in the cards. So what is the consensus of the board? Maybe it would be appropriate to hold a poll?
What is the length of the barrel on the master part?
personaly i like the gun in the picture just fine just take about a 1/2 inch off the flash and it wound look perfict
Personally, I would like to see it ON the flashtube just to be as screen acurate as possible but again, it IS up to John's discretion and what he feels is how close he would like to come to the original prop.
Bottom line is that the base gun is cast from a real webley...The scope is accurate as well. We are getting screen acurate split plugs as well as the molex connectors and a real MPP flash tube as well as having the V8 Connecting Rod on the final product.
I personally am not going to complain if it is on the gun or on the tube because either way, this baby IS going to complete my ensamble and turn alot of heads.
I 2nd what Eddie said. :)
Okay. Please keep in mind that this is a very quick paint job and it is for show only.
I just wanted to take a moment to thank a few people who have help this project tremendously. Brak's Buddy has loaned me the scope and the V8 Greeblie without these, we wouldn't have the excellent accuracy available that we do. Hand Schaub has loaned me his entire metal gun and scope. We used a combination of both assemblies to make this product. Thank you guys very much for all of your help.
That's the rubber flash tube shown above. I didn't mention that.
Well, after seeing those pics, there is no shadow of doubt in my mind that I definately Love the Rubber Barrel!
That looks unbelieveble!
**** fine job!
Just a V8 Connecting Rod away from Perfection!
Thanks. I really like the flashtube in rubber too. I like the inner detail. Man that John does some cool stuff! OH wait....that's me.
I changed my mind!!!! go ahead and glue that flash on to my gun. ill just turn the flash i got into a crude saber and sell it. that is unless any of you want to buy it!
Firstly, let me hear your overall opinions of the blaster as shown above. The barrel is 5.25" long. The scope is mounted to the barrel instead of to the flash tube. The flash tube is made in rubber as well as the entire gun. This is not some wobbly rubber. This is firm stuff. The paint job is similar to what you will get but yours will be better.
I absolutly love it!!!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :drool :drool :drool :cheers :cheers :cheers That's the design I would like mine to be. cant wait to see the final paint job! in my opinion id say dont change a thing!
A DREAM COME TRUE!!!
LOL. A little overboard but appreciated. Thanks.
np:D . I just think it's fantastic
sniff. sniff..... It's just so beautiful. I know that I'd like to say that this project has gone smoothly but I can't. It's been more like crapping out a pineapple....err....I mean from what I could imagine.
Awesome John! :)
Thanks. How do you guys like the flashtube?