O K boys & girls I'm almost there . I must say working with mustard has its problems but the end result is pretty good although the silver takes a beating during the scratching.Working with liquid mask is much easier though it sometimes tends to lift the coat under it a little. The shoulders ( mustard ) the knees (liquid mask) . OK now what ........... I need to dull these up a bit . I misted with black and rust . I rubbed the armor down with fine steel wool . I need to take more shine away . I have heard that some use this .... black acrylic backwash??? How does that work ? And last what is the best way to put straps on this knee armor . 1 continuos loop or attached to the sides ? And what is the best way to attach and make sure a strap wont break away ?