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SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    http://gadgets.co.uk/rokit.html

    Not real, but i could see someone trying this

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    Merged: small fog machine found!

    I was thinking at putting a small fog machine in my new jet pack would be real cool. Just hit a button on my guantlet and have a short burst. Well I found it! http://www.tinyfogger.com/tiny-compact.html
    Now I just need a small loan. They are about $1000!!!

    Next idea, Fog in a can. http://www.gibsonteched.net/SLCC02.html
    I am just not sure how to make that work. I would have to have something to push down on the top to let the fog out. I was thinking some sort of R/C control. I am just not sure how to wire it.

    Asok

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    Merged: Re: small fog machine found!

    yeah i found the fog in a can place a couple months ago... they should just fit into the 2 jp fuel tanks and if the nozzles and tube is hollowed out then the smoke would come out of it. You could even make the top of the fuel tanks screw on and off.

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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    That is cool. How do I put that in my jet pack? I also don't want to smell like Cherry!

  6. #56

    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    Ok this is not my bag but after seeing the desperation being reduced to smoke blowing toys I can't take it anymore here's what you do. The little CO2 fire extinguishers you've got your mission..this message will self destruct after someone does this. LOL

    Lee

  7. #57

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    That's pretty nifty , I'm pretty sure you can get them at Party City. Not sure but something like that might be hanging around in Party City.

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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!


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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    ok a thought ... are you think to use a little fire extinguisher to make the "effect"
    i mean you can put the extinguisher into the pack with 2 hoses....yada yada yada
    what do ya think

    EDIT : check this "How can I make a fire extinguisher?"
    http://www.reachoutmichigan.org/fune...inguisher.html

    EDIT 2 :
    http://www.baproducts.com/77715.htm

    EDIT 3 : how to make smoke bomb
    http://www.rotteneggs.com/re_egg_dis...hp3?eggid=3358

    EDIT 4 : how to make smoke (like smoke machines)
    http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...083/smoke.html


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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    What did the guys at Star Wars origionally use for flames and smoke on ROTJ Bobas Jet Pack? Was it special effects or real blasted fire?

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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    maybe in the film they use fx , but if you remember the white pre-pro suit you can see on the pic fogg or smoke


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    Re: <B>Merged:</B> <B>Merged:</B> Making Smoke/Exhaust

    I have found in the book "AURRA SING: Dawn of the Bounty Hunters" by Ryder Windham and Josh Ling some good pictures of boba fett and his concept costumes. In one picture they show Boba Fett all in white (page 38 ) with "smoke" shooting out of his jet pack. They made his jet pack with "...air canisters that could shoot out carbon dioxide..." (pg. 54). This made the Jet Pack quiet heavy. The book can be found in the Masterpiece Edition Aurra Sing 12" doll if interested.

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    Re: <B>Merged:</B> <B>Merged:</B> Making Smoke/Exhaust

    Heres the pic we believe they are talking about.
    http://www.essat.cl/cdref/1001_1100/Boba_Fett_1098.jpg


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    Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    My goal is this:

    You'll notice that when you turn one of those cans of compressed air (used for cleaning electronics, etc) upside down, the air comes out cloudy, almost like a fire estinguisher. I'm trying to implement this into my jet pack, but I want to make it electronic so I can control it from my gauntlets.

    The only problem is that I cant be obviously can't be sticking my fingers up in my jet pack to spray the nozzle, so how can I do this electronically, using something like a servo? There was some discussion on this some time ago, but I don't think anyone actually tried it out.

    Let me know if you have any ideas

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    That could work and you could utilize the buttons on the gauntlets. You could also do something similar to the way the shutter cables work on film cameras.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    I have been thinking about the same thing, but from a different angle. I thought about using the can of compressed air, mounted in some type of housing that holds the nozzle open, pressurizing the spray line. Then install a solinoid vavle between the can nozzle and the discharge at the thruster. The solinoid could then be controlled open or closed from the gauntlets.

    I will work on a little drawing, to help explain what I think I said. But hopefully you get the jist.

    Gator

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Try this previous thread:
    http://forums.thedentedhelmet.com/sh...jet pack+scale

    It offers a lot of ideas you might try out.

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Thanks. I checked that thread out a while ago, but there isn't much there I could work with.

    Here are some photos which I found a while ago, I forget where, of an original jet pack. It shows a Paasche compressed air can, the one used for airbrushes, inside one of the side tanks. So it looks like I'm on the right track



    Looks complicated!

    I actually forgot until I looked at a can today during photography class that they have a squeeze trigger rather than a push one like on a spraypaint can, so that would would make it a bit easier to push using a servo. I'll post more details later.
    Last edited by Jango_Fett_Jr; Jan 18, 2005 at 2:44 PM.

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    [font=Times New Roman]This design was originally developed for thrusters for a model of the BG Viper that I was building (which never got finished), but it should work just as well in this application.[/font]

    [font=Times New Roman]Design Goals:[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Inexpensive[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Simple design (less things can go wrong)[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Parts readily available (nothing exotic or requiring special machining)[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Cheap easy to get ‘fuel’[/font]

    [font=Times New Roman]First thing is the ‘fuel.’ Back when I started using an airbrush, I used the Badger’s canned air (liquid CO2). Anyone who has used this stuff knows what happen when the can is knocked over, you get one, a screwed up paint job and two, a plume of white gas. Problems, canned air can get a bit expensive, plus the cans don’t hold enough gas for more than a few extended bursts. [/font]


    [font=Times New Roman]So the next link in the chain comes in from the paintball industry, paintball guns also use CO2 and they sell various size bottles that are cheap and are easy to refill. This resolved fuel problem, now what was needed was a delivery system. This would involve hoses valves and nozzles and look like it was going to cost and arm and a leg. [/font]


    [font=Times New Roman]By chance I came across Harbor Freight, they sell cheap airbrushes, which I have heard is useless for painting (currently $4.99 ea.), but the kit has the necessary pieces, i.e. valves and hoses. [/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]http://www.harborfreight.com/[/font]


    [font=Times New Roman]Now to put it all together. The jet pack has plenty of room for the CO2 bottle (installed upside down), gas lines and battery. As for the electrical wiring harness. To activate the system consider a momentary switch on the left gauntlet with the wires running up through the flame thrower hoses with a plug (phone jack should work fine) where the hoses attach to the jumpsuit. Next, integrate the wires into the jet pack harness with a second plug at the jet pack-to-harness buckle. The wires then go down through the jet pack to the battery then on to the jet pack’s nozzles where air brush nozzles and the solenoids are installed. Pressing the switch activates the solenoids which opens the airbrush valves and CO2 goes shooting out. [/font]



    [font=Times New Roman]Parts List[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Paintball CO2 cylinder (probably need 24oz)[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Tank Valve/regulator [/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]2 Airbrushes (Harbor Freight) [/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]1 in – 2 out gas manifold (Y fitting)[/font]

    [font=Times New Roman]2 Electrically operated solenoids switches[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Momentary switch (mounted on the gauntlet)[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Plugs M&F (Phone Jack type)[/font]
    [font=Times New Roman]Wire[/font]


    [font=Times New Roman]Unfortunately this will add a few pounds to the jet pack, most of that in the CO2 bottle. Now I have to say that I have not yet built this system and have not done any searching for the solenoids switches, but the design is simple enough that it should work. The only problem I can see is that the gas lines may freeze up during extended use.[/font]

    [font=Times New Roman]Well what do you think?[/font]

    [font=Times New Roman]Alan[/font]

  20. #70

    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    What you need to do is find a nozzle that sprays vertically instead of horizontally (look on the cans of line marking paint), Install the compressed air can upside down in a gutter pipe or similar.
    Fix the nozzle so it won't move (this will allow you to change the can and leave the nozzle in place) all you need to do then is use a solenoid or actuator to push the base of the can towards the nozzle.

    Its much easier than trying to push a small nozzle or to use a flow valve.

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    In regards to finding a vertical nozzle I would suggest trying a butane canister some of witch come with a series of small to large plastic adapters for the different lighters they might refill. These adapters should fit the end of your CO2 can and it will shoot straight up. I would not recommend using the butane for your would be jet pack propellant unless you want to set your but on fire
    Hope this helps.
    Cheers,
    ST

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    WOW yall are some thinkers

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    Looks simple and inexpensive. Piece of cake. Keep up the good work!

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    I have been thinking about this and there is a much more simple way to do it.

    You need a C02 canister (small C02 fire extinguisher or the bottle from a paintball gun),
    an electrical powered gas solenoid (http://www.aeroconsystems.com/Lake_Solenoid/index.htm) (or similar),
    A switch,
    some tubing
    a battery and some wire.

    Plumb the C02 bottle to the solenoid (the same sort of thing they use in NOS kits) and plumb the solenoid to the jet pack outlet (you could use a nozzle for different dispersal patterns).
    Wire the battery to the switch and then to the solenoid.

    Job done.

    Your C02 will last a long time and can be cheaply filled at most gas suppliers (I mean gas not petrol, i'm English) or paintball arenas/suppliers.

    Go play.

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    This looks HEAVY!




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