I must say, you are really on the right track here! Goodluck in your quest!
Discussion on SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST! within the Boba Fett Costume forum, part of the Star Wars Original Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; I must say, you are really on the right track
I must say, you are really on the right track here! Goodluck in your quest!
WOW! I can't wait to see how this turns out!
Here are some pics of the nozzle fittings. I need to get another brass fitting and some braided hose to connect the two nozzles to the solenoid valve, but this is how the smoke will be directed out the thrusters.
Last edited by Gator Fett; 06-15-2005 at 07:19 PM. Reason: Wrong pics
Thank you!!Originally Posted by Spideyfett
Looks awesome GATOR...:thumbup
A big thank you goes out to Gator Fett and Jango Fett Jr for your awesome suggestions and help. I have almost completed my smoke blast from my pack. I should have it completely finished in the next couple of weeks. I utilized the basic ideas posted and made some modifications. Thanks again!
Be sure to post some pics, once you have it working.
Could you rig up some sort of dry ice thing back there where the smoke would come out of the thrusters? I don't have a jet pack so I don't know if that'd fit or w/e but yeah
JFJ your pic isnt showing up. Bandwidth exceeded? That looks great Gator!!!!!!
hmm... My thrusters are on a pvc pipe of about well, 2 cm in diameter at most, probably thinner, for the compressed air to get through and get sprayed out properly, would I need to put a hose through, or could I go along with drilling small holes in the pvc pipe at the thruster end?
Just FYI, watch where that stuff hits. Ice will usualy form on what your spraying it on when those cans are used upside down and that ice that forms is FLAMABLE. I found this out when playing with one of those and sprayed the ice onto my jeans and then tried to melt it off with a lighter. To my suprise it burst into flame. I would assume all brands of compressed air cans like that do that, and Ive never tried that again to make sure, but I figured I'd give you a heads up. In fact it may even have a warning on the cans... Ive never looked...
-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx
Originally Posted by Vida
I think the cans do have a warning on them. I guess we just need to make sure the thrusters are facing down whenever we "gas" and all will be safe, lol.
I think you were j/k, but it either way it realy did happen! Me and my friend that were all watching kinda jumped from our seats when the ice caught fire.Liar liar....
-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx
Hehehe..sorry I forgot to add "pants on fire", though I thought it was implied
Ahhhhh (light blub turns on). LOL. I figured you were joking, but that makes so much more sense.
-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx
Pics of item coming soon.
Last edited by judge_hellfast; 07-25-2005 at 01:43 PM. Reason: Item works....Updating Project
This might work for a smoking jet pack...
Oooooooo, that looks good Omega!
Now someone needs to try it to see if it works.
Yeah but you could make a James Bond car with it. Where is that oil slick kit?
If you want a car that smokes I can sell you one. no kit required.
LOL! I know what you mean, cal.
Still though, if someone HAD $200 to spare simply on making their jet pack spew smoke, then I would think that was the way to go.
My latest attempt.
A few more tweeks to my design and I should have it working good.
Last edited by Gator Fett; 08-18-2005 at 06:11 PM. Reason: oops ... forgot the pic
Sweeeeet! You sir, are my hero.
I cannot wait to see what improvements you make. This is just too cool!
That looks awesome...The only thing I would adjust is the angle of your valves so the exhaust comes out straight down the middle of the thruster, and maybe have it spray a little wider, but other than that it is sweet!
that's sweet none the less, i can see it freakign people out though
That looks great Gator Fett! Omega Man, were you talking about the wizard stick, on the site you posted? That looks very possible, although it does not really shoot. Maybe this just takes us back to the compressed air cans. Gator, the only improvement that I really see possible would be to make the air look like it is coming out of the entire nozzle. It's looking so awsome though, don't let me get you down or anything!
Gator, you going to do a step by step tutorial on this?
PLEASE, O'GOD PLEASE!!!!!!
I might have some solenoids for sale in the net week or so, my uncle has a PhD in mechanical engineering and is helping to make sure it is safe in case something freezes and shatters and you have a can of propelent ripping the side of your jet pack out and flying everwhere around the room . Well...... that does sound like a cool effect but not safe. if there is enough time before halloween i might offer a few kits of this design but time will tell, I think a smoking jet pack will almot gaurantee you first place at a costume contest
Last edited by patiam69; 10-06-2005 at 06:59 PM.
Id be game for a kit any time, save me from myself.lol
Not exactly a step by step tutorial, but I will have some more info to share soon. I have been too busy finishing my helmet and JP, to document a full step by step tutorial. I did take some key pics along the way, and will try to pull the parts list together this weekend.Originally Posted by shortimer52
I am not a real engineer, I just play one at work. Actually, I am a Mechanical Engineer with a Masters from U of M and 10+ years of working with fluid handling and hydraulic systems. Not a PhD, but I think I know what I am doing.Originally Posted by patiam69
I would caution you against selling solenoid valves or "kits", that are not made for use with cryogenic liquids. I would not want someone, without access to a PhD engineer, to get into a project that could get them hurt. That is why I have not provided additional info on my JP thrusters, yet. I wanted to make sure I had the system tested properly before, I shared my info with the board. Once I have all my ducks in a row, I will be sure to share the wealth.
I work on water softeners that run on kinetic power, but what do i know, i only have a A.S. in automotive
It was meant was a "rocket scientist" joke but yeah, he does have a PhD, and lost his sense of humor and turned all liberal probably in his 10th year of college to prove it No pun was intended towards anyone here nor was i questioning your design or intelligence. I took your qoute of you saying saying that the liquid would squirt out when the propellent can was upside down and asked him if there was a safer way, i personally dont like frostbite.
Last edited by patiam69; 10-06-2005 at 11:52 PM.
Hi all ,reading this thread it strikes me we could kill 2 mynocks with 1 blast bolt here....WIZARDOFFLIGHT said a side effect of the compressed gas can system would be cooling ...I remember this also from my early airbrush days,pre compressor!....what if we could divert a portion of the stream of gas down the arm tubes ,into the gauntlets and also down the back of the wearer and possible up the back of the neck in to the helmet ...basically all the main places you'd sweat in the suit,..all to act as coolant for the wearer.
I have been kicking around coolant ideas for a time ,thinking of a fish tank aerator or similar in the pack to pump cool air round but these run hot out of water ...the gas thing sounds ideal ...we could stop the outbreak of sweaty fetts!
We are doing cossies with pipe work in the right places ,we may as well take advantage of it ...fett is easier to ventilate than a stormie
Originally Posted by JangoUri
Well,,,,,,,,,, yeah but it would be cool.lol
I finished and tested my final SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST. And I must say it works fantastic. It clinched me 1st Place in the Motor City Comic Con - Costuem Contest last weekend.
Here is a pic of the components in the pack. and of the nozzle in the thrusters. I will be working on a parts list and diagram to share with the board in the next week or two. I will also be suiting up this Saturday and should have some pics of the JP in action. I'll keep you posted.
Originally Posted by Gator Fett
YES Please do!!! I can't wait!
YES! I've been waiting for this!
Gator, JFJ and everyone else that has had input, you guys are amazing. I cant wait to get my jp to start this.
Great work guys.
Thanks everyone for your support.
Oh yea. Before anyone asks, the entire pack, including the solenoid valve, piping, battery, wiring, CO2 bottle, and the Bobamaker resin rocket & thrusters all weighs in at just under 11 lbs.
I wore the pack for 3 hours on Saturday, and could hardly tell it was there.
I was just ready to ask that Good job!!!!!!Originally Posted by Gator Fett
wow, this is soooo cool, can wait!!!!!!!!!!!!
The item on autoloc.com appears to need a heat source like a fog machine (if you read the instructions it hooks to the exhaust manifold) so it might not be a good idea for a jet pack. It sure would be cool on a car though!
Looking forward to how to get this set up.
Here is a shot of my :moon and my :jet pack in action. The sun washes the smoke out little, but this is the best picture I could get.
Man your Fett is tricked out!!!! RF servo, lights, and now JP action!!
looks cool, but is there a way to make it look more spread out, right now it looks like it is coming out of a small tube instead of a funnelled thruster
I have tried a couple of different things to get the smoke to look more spread out, but I could not get it to look any better than in the picture above. The problems could lie with the gas (CO2) that I am using, or perhaps with my piping arrangement.Originally Posted by Zeever Fett
I am open to any suggestions that people may have, but I am clean out of ideas. If anyone wants to discuss the physical properties of subcooled liquids, or the equation of state for ideal gases (remember pV=mRT?), take it somewhere else, my brain is fried.
but that jet pack must be SUPER HEAVY. You couldnt hold it much time
I see this thread is about dead from the length of time from the last post, but I was wondering how everyone who was trying any of these methods turned out with their packs. I was also wondering if anyone had thought of this. I work in the healthcare equipment supply industry and we sell medication nebulizers (little air compressor that aerosolizes liquid medications). Compressed air goes through a tube to a medication cup where you place a small amount of medication/liquid which the air blows against a cone shaped baffle breaking it up into a fine fog like mist which is then inhaled through a mouth piece. Now a battery powered version is also available for travel (great for asthmatics), which has a mini air compressor (hand held units). Most have simple internal mechanics as I've repaired and cleaned many, and can probably be modified for jet pack usage (alot of included and extra different sized and shaped tubes/tubing is included with nebulizers and can be purchased at medical equipment supply stores/healthcares). One more version that is the main one I'm getting to is also available. An ultrasonic version. It uses noiseless ultrasonic waves to aerosolize the medication for a denser mist. No compressor is used so it makes no noise and has smaller internal components. One draw back is in it's setup, the ultrasonic waves emit through a small amount of water to a small plastic cone shaped cup which is partially sumerged in the water. The waves pass through the water, through the bottom of the cup blasting the liquid medicine in the cup and aerosolizing it into a much finer, denser mist than those aerosolized with compressed air. A larger liquid supply would be needed for extended usage as most treatments only last about 10-15 minutes depending on the type of machine used, but only using about 6mL's of liquid. I have seen this ultrasonic type fogging method used elseware also. I was in The Tinderbox (Cigar store) one day about a year ago and they and they had on display in the window a decorative humidifier for sale for the home, office or even in a walk in humidor (which they had a undecorative version in the acutal walk in humidor misting away). The decorative one looked like a small fountain with a little fake bonsi tree on a small volcanic islandlike stone in the center with the mist/fog emmiting from the top and flowing down the sides similar to dry ice. larger water supply and MUCH larger product discharge. Since then I have seen similar indoor/mood type fountains in local mall stores, Lowes and a similar home/garden supply stores. Most are pretty simple and compact in parts and tubing is easly accesable through local healthcare/medical equipment supply stores, even pharmacys, and the big thing, it only discharges H2O (or what ever liquid people fill it with so there's no telling what it could be discharging late at night at company parties, lol). You could have the fogger tubbing run from the pack to an elbow joint down to the thruster cone then what ever appropriate LED's (yellow, white, red, or even blue) placed around the end of the tube where the fog/mist exits and it should produce a more "At Launch Ready" state, "Ready for Final Launch Sequence", look. Thicker, slower mist with flame trigger/pilot light (lol) lighting it up providing a wider bigger more relaxed eye show. I have yet to try this as life has gotten a little busy with the birth of my second child and my rc hobby has consumed most of my small amount of free time left but hopefully sometime before Halloween '08 I will have delved into this. Until then maybe some else can run with this or it has at least sparked some similar ideas. Or maybe it's just 3am and time to change another diaper and I'm half passing in and out of consciousness and this lamebrain idea for some reason sounds great at the moment. Or maybe I'm really asleep at the moment and just dreaming this, and it's really some contraption for an rc truck, lol, who knows, things seem a little blurry these past few weeks, lol. By the way, looks cool Gator Fett, how did you're idea ever finish out??
Last edited by napalm; 03-25-2008 at 12:17 AM. Reason: forgot to add
Way to beat a Dead Horse... btw re-opening a thread like this, especially this old is considered a really big taboo here...
And PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSEEEEEEEE. ..
...punctuate and use the enter key to break up what ever that rabble of words was... I didnt even bother reading it...
Sorry to sound harsh but it can give a person a really bad headache trying to figure out that....
all the threads I post in are old..look at when I joined
am surprised there is not any more updates on this
I played around with the Upside down canned air concept for a while but there were problems. First, it comes out very cold and I was concerned about the impact in the tubing. More importantly, the effect was not that impressive as the air was only visible for about 2 feet and then vanished immediately. And so my search continues.