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    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    Has anyone rigged their jet pack to emit smoke or exhaust from the jet nozzles?

    If not, any thoughts on how to do it? Obviously, not with fire or real smoke. Is there any compressed product that is "clean" - not paint or bug spray - that could be rigged to do this? What about those compressed air cans used for cleaning off computer parts? Do they create a visible mist? Heck - Stick a jug of water in there and have someone dump dry ice in there. You'd smoke for 20 minutes! Afire extinguisher would make hardcore smoke...not the chemical kind!

    Thoughts?

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    Originally posted by TK0000:

    Fog juice may have somthing that would work. A friend of mine used to sell car alarms that used small bottles of fog juice so if the alarm was triggered it would fill the car with "smoke" to deture criminals. It was awsome in convertables. It sprayed the smoke out at an incredible rate. It leaves no smell. One problem..I can't remember the name of the alarm. Maybe dragon something?



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    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    Another issue is power. If I didn't need to plug it in, I could use a smoke machine used on stage at concerts. Oh, and it weighs 100 lbs!

    Scott


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    Originally posted by Pantera1889:

    I would think that a small Nitrous oxide bottle would create the effect you are looking for.When it is released it makes a powerful mist that would look cool.You could even use the solenoids for automotive systeme to deploy it.



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    Originally posted by TK0000:

    Maybe some sort of dry ice thing?



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    Originally posted by ruadh9978:

    Speaking of the nitrous, if it doesn't look cool enough for the backpack, you could easily sell it to high school kids instead.



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    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    How about running a tube from the helmet to the exhaust and then I could smoke a cigarette and blow through the tube. Besides the fact that a cigarette wouldn't fit in the helmet, and the helmet would be smoking, and I HATE FRIGGIN CIGARETTES - THEY BELONG IN HELL, it might work!

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    Originally posted by Spheric Thor:

    you could try co2.

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    Originally posted by TK0000:

    What about fireworks, smoke bombs,or bottle rockets?



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    Hey guys, I think I may have struck gold on this one. There was a post last December about some Fetts wanting to rig their 'packs to emit some kind of exhaust.

    Well...after an "exhausting" search of my own, I believe I have found something that will work.

    I work in the production industry (TV commercials, mainly) and a product we were using on a shoot just yesterday screamed out to me.

    It's called "Fantasy X" but is commonly known as "Fog-in-a-Can".

    If someone can tell me how to post pics, I'll slap up an image. But for now, just go to - http://www.slclasers.com/Pages/SLCWEBCAT14.html

    It's completely oderless and harmless. It just lets out a stream of white fog that quickly dissapates, along with a "whoosh" sound, that is common to all aerosol dispensers.

    It would be very easy to rig up a couple of cans of this upside down in your jet pack and activate it with a small wire (similar to a bicycle's caliper brake wire) or even an electric servo with an RF transmitter.

    Anyway, I was considering keeping this little gem to myself, but I thought sharing it would be better for all of us in the long-run.

    Check it out and tell me what you think!

    Fett ya later.

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    Sweet, I knew there was a reason I set mine up so it could smoke. My jet pack will hopefully be taking up a bad habit pretty soon.

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    Thank you very much!! i was racking my mandalorian brain trying to think something up myself. Definitely interested in pics!! Any prospects for a tutorial on servo activation?

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    Here's an idea: Couldn't you also incorporate Bright orange/yellow bulbs or LEDs in the thrusters as the "fog" shoots out to make it appear as flames in the thrusters? I think that would give it an even more realistic look. maybe even make the bulbs strobe. Let me know what you think?

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    I've been kicking the strobe idea around for a while. The trick is the power source since strobes can quickly drain batteries. Do any of you electro-technos have any suggestions?

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    Aren't there high brightness LEDs out there? Maybe they won't strobe, but there are ways to make them flash rapidily. Two per thruster rapidly flashing might give us the effect.

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    I remember seeing these little lights that flickered like a candle in the wind, but I don't know what they are called. They would probably look cool with the smoke. I'll have to check the hardware store later.

    Ed

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    At the radio shack in my town, they have a blue and red LED that blinks at a rate of somethin like 25 FPS (flashes per second) 2 of those might work. they are around 8 bucks for 1 and the pack

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    For all who want to make their jet packs have a smoking effect. Check out the "zero blaster fog gun" at
    http://www.egadgets.com/cgi-bin/sgin...02102612034725
    Its only $29.00 to buy and could be cannibalized some way to work in a jet pack.
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    Cherry flavored Fett!

    It looks as big as that guy's arm in the picture. I don't know if I want to carry something that big around. I already rigged my jet pack up so that it *could* smoke, if I put something like that in there, but I don't know about how big it is...

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    I dunno, might get emphasema over time.

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    Very cool toy though!

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    I don't know if anyone wants to make their jet packs smoke but this might work: http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/det...moduleno=20746 its a can of smoke thats relatively cheap unfortunately its only got 5 minutes worth and you have to figure out a way to turn it on. But the smoke does hang in a room for 2 hours

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    just remember that you would have to change the canisters. that would an added engineering task to the pack. on the bright side, i dont think those smoke cans weigh too much.

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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    Has anyone had any success with making their jet pack smoke yet? I've heard plenty of theories, but I'd like to hear and see someone's success story first before I make any serious mods to mine.

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    Here this is easy enough... You can use model rocket engines.. Not very hard to wire at all.. Just need to thing safety.. If you choose to place them in the side thrusters I would use nothing larger than a B size engine... If you want to use the Center grill you could use dual D size engines... I made use of the mic jack on the bottom of the jet pack to wire the unit with a inline switch to prevent miss fires... Please Do Not Attempt this without some knowledge of Model Rocketry skills... If you want a diagram email me.. And I can help you along..

    You are only limited by your imagination!

    Sorry, if I don't get back to you for a few days... Working on two Feature Films right now.. Alamo and Secondhand Lions..

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    I purchased a fog machine for halloween, what about rigging something like that up? I am not sure entirely how it works but I think it has to do with heating the fog juice, Im not sure



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    What about R134a freon? Its automotive refrigerant, Ozone friendly, comes in 12 oz. cans and runs roughly 5-7 bucks a can. It will blow a good white smoke and make a pretty loud & noticeable whoosh sound too.

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    I remember reading in an old HAUNTED ATTRACTION magazine that there was a company coming out with a battery operated fog machine. It was small enough to be worn on your person. It was intended to be used in haunted houses or any cool Halloween costume. Every where you went there would be a cloud of fog with you. This would be perfect for a jet pack. I will go thru my older issues and get the company name and number and post it here. It may take a couple of days due to the fact that we are in the process of moving. But as soon as I get the info I will post it ASAP.

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    Man, that is perfect. TK826 wasn't kidding though.

    Compact battery-powered fogger: &#36;995.00
    Wireless remote control: &#36;299.00
    Concentrated fog fluid: 8oz &#36;15.00, 32oz &#36;35.00
    Hose adapter: &#36;59.00
    Y-splitter: &#36;5.00
    Tubing: 2' &#36;9.00

    Grand total: &#36;1,382.00-&#36;1,402.00

    Out of my price range, but man would that be sweet.8)

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    Hey Fettish, just bring your jet pack to me and I'll light it on fire for you! That should make plenty of smoke!!

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    Sorry man, fiberglass resin isn't flammable although I'm sure the RotJ paintjob would make some cool multi-colored flames.

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    OH, I'll figure out a way to get it going man, trust me!!!

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    Now this might be interesting. I am most interested in this because there is no fire involved and also no electronics so it should be fairly safe...

    Anyone want to start looking into this more seriously? I know I am! Perhaps we could rig up a unit that holds the cans and with the press of a button the can valve stem could be depressed letting out some freon. Sounds pretty simple and very cool!!!


    BoJangleFett wrote:

    What about R134a freon? Its automotive refrigerant, Ozone friendly, comes in 12 oz. cans and runs roughly 5-7 bucks a can. It will blow a good white smoke and make a pretty loud & noticeable whoosh sound too.

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    Actually 134a refridgerant isn't "ozone friendly" any more than R22/R12/R502 etc. when released into the atmosphere.I work with HVAC at my work and have some working knowledge of refridgerants."Reclaiming" refridgerants is the law and is the deliberate practice of not releasing them into the atmosphere.Releasing them also isn't the smartest thing to do if you've ever been burned by ANY refridgerant I guarantee it's the last time you want it to happen.While the effect would be had for the jet pack it isn't safe,or very consious of the environment to do so,and is just like pouring antifreeze down your drain,or sewer.Sorry to be a poopy head,but it just isn't the right thing to do,and is also dangerous.

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    Aren't there some sort of environmental issues with releasing freon into the air??

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    Absolutely! There are penalties to be had if a facility,...even a home is "leaking" more than 10lbs. a year from what I had found out.I had a leak at home,and was talking with my boss about it asking some questions to the legalities of "re-filling" vs. fixing it.There are some areas that make it hard to police,or enforce,but nonetheless it IS illegal to knowingly release ANY refridgerant into the atmosphere.


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    Wow Blaster, things have gotten a bit tougher with the freon rules lately. I'm glad I read this. My last job was installing/retrofitting/recovering freon, ect. up until 1995 when I worked at a Ford. Now I sell the stuff on the retail side and the info given to us by the vendors now seem to be outdated by a long shot. Thanks for the info.

    B.T.W. I'm changing my mind from R134a to...um...canned COOL WHIP! I'm sure it's ozone friendly and sure to be a hit at all the Dairy Queens!

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    It became mandatory to reclaim after June 1994.We used to just crack open valves and let it just spew out until that time since it was alot easier than reclaiming the stuff.Unfortunately as I said the government can't police such laws to the average Joe,but the moral issue is at hand.I'd hate for any of you guys to get in trouble for lack of knowledge Oh,and canned "Cool Whip" isn't any better for the atmosphere, ......basically anything in a spray can isn't good for it.

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    Back to the drawing board.

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    Okay....talk about back to the blackboard...how about 2 blackboard erasers, hold 'em each in one hand and smack 'em together! Now you got some FX smoke happening!
    This is going to sound sillier but I think it may stand a possible chance, maybe. Remember train sets that had smoke coming out of the smoke stack? I know the scale of one of those train sets is smaller than the Jet Pack exhaust funnels and possibly won't put out the quantity of smoke expected. I don't know how those trains put out the smoke and I wonder can it be done safely on a little bit larger scale? If so, maybe rig it up to each exhaust nozzle with a hidden computer fan to help blow it out. Maybe, or maybe not?

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    I believe those trains actually heat up the smoker liquid that is put in it, but only gives off a puff puff puff as it goes....i think most here will want a WOOOOSSSHHHHHH of smoke....

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    The older Lionel trains used "smoke pellets",and put out minimal smoke in the "O" scale trains.

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    Boy, this gets tougher as this thread gets longer. I'm about to give up and go for the "Damaged electronic sparkling effect" that was caused by the Reek in AOTC. That way, if anybody ask, I can use the old "No it doesn't work...Mine is screen accurate!" I have thought of at least 3 other ideas that would possibly work but all of them risk the safety issue.

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    I thought of another way but it would take some work to fashion it in. If you have ever seen those miniture water gardens (like for table tops) they have a little fogger that makes a really cool smoke affect that looks like dry ice. It works off of the water I believe, so you would need 1) a power source (maybe a small battery in the pack and 2) some type of reseviour in the pack. I think the little device is like 30 bucks and I'm sure you could find em on Ebay or somewhere online. Lasts for a long time too, and would look like a cool idle smoke.

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    here we go, this is what I am talking about...

    http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=820

    or

    http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=1675

    with colored lights and more fog.









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    What about those "keyboard dusters" in a can.The compressed air kind.If it's inverted it fogs just like cracking a can of freon open.Since it's designed to be dispersed and into what becomes the "atmosphere" it really doesn't matter whether it's held right side up,where you get air,or up side down where you get a cold forced air fog to give a wicked jet pack effect

    Whatta ya' think ? ? ?

    Of course a homemade rig would have to be customized and have 2 cans in a pack.Perhaps a can on either side,and some freon gauge hoses (when inverted that stuff is COLD) hooked up to the bare can tops and going to the thrusters.A button to press,and release the thrust.It would be alot of work,but certainly a crowd pleaser at Celebration III !

    So who's gonna do it first? My pack is already sealed and being painted so I'm out

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    Since I have not started the jet pack yet I am going to try to customize the pack a little so that I can put the smoke in a can into it. I plan on having 1 can in each Fuel tank? cylinder thing on each side of the jet pack. the tops will screw off and the can will fit in upside down so that when the top is screwed back on it will press the top of the can down to release the fog. the jet pack nozzles and the rods that connect them to the pack will be hollowed out so that the fog can escape through them. Thats pretty much my plan on how I am going to tackle it. If anyone else tries this keep me posted on how it works

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    Migrate wrote:

    Hey guys, I think I may have struck gold on this one. There was a post last December about some Fetts wanting to rig their 'packs to emit some kind of exhaust.

    Well...after an "exhausting" search of my own, I believe I have found something that will work.

    I work in the production industry (TV commercials, mainly) and a product we were using on a shoot just yesterday screamed out to me.

    It's called "Fantasy X" but is commonly known as "Fog-in-a-Can".

    If someone can tell me how to post pics, I'll slap up an image. But for now, just go to - http://www.slclasers.com/Pages/SLCWEBCAT14.html

    It's completely oderless and harmless. It just lets out a stream of white fog that quickly dissapates, along with a "whoosh" sound, that is common to all aerosol dispensers.

    It would be very easy to rig up a couple of cans of this upside down in your jet pack and activate it with a small wire (similar to a bicycle's caliper brake wire) or even an electric servo with an RF transmitter.

    Anyway, I was considering keeping this little gem to myself, but I thought sharing it would be better for all of us in the long-run.

    Check it out and tell me what you think!

    Fett ya later.

    What ever happend to this idea? It sounds like it would work?

    Here's another link to online vendor.

    http://www.studiodepot.com/store/ind...2-1202&id=6935


    here are some nozzels

    http://www.imscanada.com/drying.htm



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    http://www.citcfx.com/prod_fantasyfx.htm

    Heres a good sight about the product. check out the adobe info.

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    http://gadgets.co.uk/rokit.html

    Not real, but i could see someone trying this

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    I was thinking at putting a small fog machine in my new jet pack would be real cool. Just hit a button on my guantlet and have a short burst. Well I found it! http://www.tinyfogger.com/tiny-compact.html
    Now I just need a small loan. They are about &#36;1000!!!

    Next idea, Fog in a can. http://www.gibsonteched.net/SLCC02.html
    I am just not sure how to make that work. I would have to have something to push down on the top to let the fog out. I was thinking some sort of R/C control. I am just not sure how to wire it.

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    yeah i found the fog in a can place a couple months ago... they should just fit into the 2 jp fuel tanks and if the nozzles and tube is hollowed out then the smoke would come out of it. You could even make the top of the fuel tanks screw on and off.

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    That is cool. How do I put that in my jet pack? I also don't want to smell like Cherry!

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    Ok this is not my bag but after seeing the desperation being reduced to smoke blowing toys I can't take it anymore here's what you do. The little CO2 fire extinguishers you've got your mission..this message will self destruct after someone does this. LOL

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    That's pretty nifty , I'm pretty sure you can get them at Party City. Not sure but something like that might be hanging around in Party City.

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    Re: SMOKING JETPACK EXHAUST!

    ok a thought ... are you think to use a little fire extinguisher to make the "effect"
    i mean you can put the extinguisher into the pack with 2 hoses....yada yada yada
    what do ya think

    EDIT : check this "How can I make a fire extinguisher?"
    http://www.reachoutmichigan.org/fune...inguisher.html

    EDIT 2 :
    http://www.baproducts.com/77715.htm

    EDIT 3 : how to make smoke bomb
    http://www.rotteneggs.com/re_egg_dis...hp3?eggid=3358

    EDIT 4 : how to make smoke (like smoke machines)
    http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...083/smoke.html


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    What did the guys at Star Wars origionally use for flames and smoke on ROTJ Bobas Jet Pack? Was it special effects or real blasted fire?

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    maybe in the film they use fx , but if you remember the white pre-pro suit you can see on the pic fogg or smoke


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    Re: <B>Merged:</B> <B>Merged:</B> Making Smoke/Exhaust

    I have found in the book "AURRA SING: Dawn of the Bounty Hunters" by Ryder Windham and Josh Ling some good pictures of boba fett and his concept costumes. In one picture they show Boba Fett all in white (page 38 ) with "smoke" shooting out of his jet pack. They made his jet pack with "...air canisters that could shoot out carbon dioxide..." (pg. 54). This made the Jet Pack quiet heavy. The book can be found in the Masterpiece Edition Aurra Sing 12" doll if interested.

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    Heres the pic we believe they are talking about.
    http://www.essat.cl/cdref/1001_1100/Boba_Fett_1098.jpg


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    Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    My goal is this:

    You'll notice that when you turn one of those cans of compressed air (used for cleaning electronics, etc) upside down, the air comes out cloudy, almost like a fire estinguisher. I'm trying to implement this into my jet pack, but I want to make it electronic so I can control it from my gauntlets.

    The only problem is that I cant be obviously can't be sticking my fingers up in my jet pack to spray the nozzle, so how can I do this electronically, using something like a servo? There was some discussion on this some time ago, but I don't think anyone actually tried it out.

    Let me know if you have any ideas

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    That could work and you could utilize the buttons on the gauntlets. You could also do something similar to the way the shutter cables work on film cameras.

    Good luck!

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    I have been thinking about the same thing, but from a different angle. I thought about using the can of compressed air, mounted in some type of housing that holds the nozzle open, pressurizing the spray line. Then install a solinoid vavle between the can nozzle and the discharge at the thruster. The solinoid could then be controlled open or closed from the gauntlets.

    I will work on a little drawing, to help explain what I think I said. But hopefully you get the jist.

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    Try this previous thread:
    http://forums.thedentedhelmet.com/sh...jet pack+scale

    It offers a lot of ideas you might try out.

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    Thanks. I checked that thread out a while ago, but there isn't much there I could work with.

    Here are some photos which I found a while ago, I forget where, of an original jet pack. It shows a Paasche compressed air can, the one used for airbrushes, inside one of the side tanks. So it looks like I'm on the right track



    Looks complicated!

    I actually forgot until I looked at a can today during photography class that they have a squeeze trigger rather than a push one like on a spraypaint can, so that would would make it a bit easier to push using a servo. I'll post more details later.
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    This design was originally developed for thrusters for a model of the BG Viper that I was building (which never got finished), but it should work just as well in this application.

    Design Goals:
    Inexpensive
    Simple design (less things can go wrong)
    Parts readily available (nothing exotic or requiring special machining)
    Cheap easy to get ‘fuel’

    First thing is the ‘fuel.’ Back when I started using an airbrush, I used the Badger’s canned air (liquid CO2). Anyone who has used this stuff knows what happen when the can is knocked over, you get one, a screwed up paint job and two, a plume of white gas. Problems, canned air can get a bit expensive, plus the cans don’t hold enough gas for more than a few extended bursts.


    So the next link in the chain comes in from the paintball industry, paintball guns also use CO2 and they sell various size bottles that are cheap and are easy to refill. This resolved fuel problem, now what was needed was a delivery system. This would involve hoses valves and nozzles and look like it was going to cost and arm and a leg.


    By chance I came across Harbor Freight, they sell cheap airbrushes, which I have heard is useless for painting (currently $4.99 ea.), but the kit has the necessary pieces, i.e. valves and hoses.
    http://www.harborfreight.com/


    Now to put it all together. The jet pack has plenty of room for the CO2 bottle (installed upside down), gas lines and battery. As for the electrical wiring harness. To activate the system consider a momentary switch on the left gauntlet with the wires running up through the flame thrower hoses with a plug (phone jack should work fine) where the hoses attach to the jumpsuit. Next, integrate the wires into the jet pack harness with a second plug at the jet pack-to-harness buckle. The wires then go down through the jet pack to the battery then on to the jet pack’s nozzles where air brush nozzles and the solenoids are installed. Pressing the switch activates the solenoids which opens the airbrush valves and CO2 goes shooting out.



    Parts List
    Paintball CO2 cylinder (probably need 24oz)
    Tank Valve/regulator
    2 Airbrushes (Harbor Freight)
    1 in – 2 out gas manifold (Y fitting)

    2 Electrically operated solenoids switches
    Momentary switch (mounted on the gauntlet)
    Plugs M&F (Phone Jack type)
    Wire


    Unfortunately this will add a few pounds to the jet pack, most of that in the CO2 bottle. Now I have to say that I have not yet built this system and have not done any searching for the solenoids switches, but the design is simple enough that it should work. The only problem I can see is that the gas lines may freeze up during extended use.

    Well what do you think?

    Alan

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    What you need to do is find a nozzle that sprays vertically instead of horizontally (look on the cans of line marking paint), Install the compressed air can upside down in a gutter pipe or similar.
    Fix the nozzle so it won't move (this will allow you to change the can and leave the nozzle in place) all you need to do then is use a solenoid or actuator to push the base of the can towards the nozzle.

    Its much easier than trying to push a small nozzle or to use a flow valve.

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    In regards to finding a vertical nozzle I would suggest trying a butane canister some of witch come with a series of small to large plastic adapters for the different lighters they might refill. These adapters should fit the end of your CO2 can and it will shoot straight up. I would not recommend using the butane for your would be jet pack propellant unless you want to set your but on fire
    Hope this helps.
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    WOW yall are some thinkers

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    Looks simple and inexpensive. Piece of cake. Keep up the good work!

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    I have been thinking about this and there is a much more simple way to do it.

    You need a C02 canister (small C02 fire extinguisher or the bottle from a paintball gun),
    an electrical powered gas solenoid (http://www.aeroconsystems.com/Lake_Solenoid/index.htm) (or similar),
    A switch,
    some tubing
    a battery and some wire.

    Plumb the C02 bottle to the solenoid (the same sort of thing they use in NOS kits) and plumb the solenoid to the jet pack outlet (you could use a nozzle for different dispersal patterns).
    Wire the battery to the switch and then to the solenoid.

    Job done.

    Your C02 will last a long time and can be cheaply filled at most gas suppliers (I mean gas not petrol, i'm English) or paintball arenas/suppliers.

    Go play.

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    This looks HEAVY!




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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Quote Originally Posted by Forced Trekker
    This looks HEAVY!



    Hey, you're right! I asked JB how heavy the original was, he said it felt like a lead weight pulling him backwards, in order to rest between shots he would lean his back against a wall to take the pressure off.

    I'd still swop my MLC lightweight version for one anyday!

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    JET PACK Special effects

    I want to add some special effects to my Boba Fett jet pack and I am curious to know if anyone has done this and how they have done it. Some of the ideas I am looking for is adding smoke and sound. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Re: JET PACK Special effects

    The Albino Fett had the ability to shoot smoke out of the exhaust ports but I have no idea how they did it.

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    I think I'll try to look him up. Thanks for the tip. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Thanks.

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    Re: JET PACK Special effects

    umm..maybe a one of those small fog machines you see during halloween

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    I've looked into those but they seem like they would be too big to fit in the pack. They also would need to run off some kind of battery as well. I will look into that alternative further. Thanks for the suggestion....anyone else have any ideas???

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    Re: JET PACK Special effects

    The original used Paashe airbrush compressed air cans.

    When they are turned upside down, it comes out looking like steam or fog.
    Get one of those 'electronic cleaning' cans of compressed air, and squeeze it when it's upside down. It does the exact same thing. It would have been hooked up to some sort of solenoid valve, so they could be turned on using a switch. The only problem I've had so in trying this is finding a solenoid. Mind you, I haven't looked much recently, but I'm sure there is something out there.

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Would you like to know more?
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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Fett
    Would you like to know more?
    Oh freakin yes! :thumbup

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    YES!!!! That little black bit is the solenoid? GET POSTING!

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Got your attention ... huh.

    This v1.0 set up is very preliminary. Basically I wanted to see if I could get everything to work, and get the "discharge" to look like thruster smoke. I guess you approve.

    The first picture shows the setup. A Propel can connected with an air brush hose to the solenoid valve. Coming out the other end of the solenoid is just a barbed hose fitting. Additional piping, hoses and fittings will be needed to route the the two thrusters. (More on that later.)

    Electrically, the solenoid is wired to a 6V rechargable RC battery and a momentary toggle switch. My plan is to install the battery in the JP and wire the switch into my right gauntlet.

    CAUTION!!! This set up is unstable. The blue regulator on the top of the Propel can leaks butane fluid when held upside down. It is just not made to handle the liquid that is inside the can, and it is the liquid that is needed to create the smoke. I am working on some changes to my design, which should eliminate the leaking problem, but I have to wait about a month to get the parts I need.

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    Re: JET PACK Special effects

    That does sound like a good idea. I actually went home last night and gave it a try and you're right, it does produce a steam or fog. It wasn't a huge amount but I think we are on to something. Thanks for the tip, Jango_Fett_Jr. What else has anyone done to make their jet pack "come alive?"

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    Re: JET PACK Special effects

    Check the next thread.

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    Re: JET PACK Special effects

    Thanks, Gator Fett. I have been eagerly watching that thread. http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=5510 You da man!!! I'm also looking into adding some kind of speaker system in my pack with some sound effects as well. Hopefully some of these other kinds of effects will pop-up as well. Thanks for the great tip!!!

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    I put this diagram together to show the piping and wiring for my v1.0 thruster. I had to resize my Visio drawing to fit the image restrictions, so I hope this works.
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    HOLY S**T!!!

    Thats awesome! Any idea on a price range or availability of parts in the UK?

    Dan

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    Re: Jetpack Thrusters - Brainstorming

    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Fett
    I put this diagram together to show the piping and wiring for my v1.0 thruster. I had to resize my Visio drawing to fit the image restrictions, so I hope this works.

    SWEETNESS.......NICE JOB ...Now let's see it installed!! Please.:thumbup

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    That is cool man, very inventive!

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    Looking sweeet! Shame about some of the prices of solenoid valves!

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    What is the prices on all this different stuff? Looks AWSOME!

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    Looks to complicated for a puff of smoke.

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    Its actually not that complicated, it even very similar to how the original was done, except the battery was freaking HUGE. This is about as close as you'll be able to get to the actual effect, and its much safer/lighter. Although as mentioned, there are a few issues with the leaking butane that will need to be fixed before it is implemented.

    Again Gator, thanks for getting this far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandalore697
    Any idea on a price range or availability of parts in the UK?
    Quote Originally Posted by askywalker98
    What is the prices on all this different stuff?
    Quote Originally Posted by mandalore697
    Shame about some of the prices of solenoid valves!
    The Airbrush parts, various brass fittings, battery, wires & switch, should be available anywhere, and at minimal cost. As mandalore697 pointed out, the solenoid valve is kinda costly. Depending on the type of valve you get, they can range from $50 to $200. I have been able to "borrow" some parts from work to put my v1.0 set up together, so my out of pocket costs have been low.

    As I said before, there are some issues with this version that are not safe, and need to be corrected. Once I have the new parts, I will set up a v2.0 and test the operation. After I get an operational & safe system, I will work on getting it installed in my JP. When I get all of that finished I will put together a parts list for anyone that is interested. I may even have a few kits available.

    JFJ - Thanks for your support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    Looks to complicated for a puff of smoke.
    cal -

    It's more than a puff of smoke. Actually, it’s more of a continuous blast of smoke. During my testing, I have probably discharged the system 15 to 20 times for 5 to 10 second intervals, and the can is still half full.

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