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    May 12, 2006, 9:58 AM - Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #1

    As promiced both my self and the great Batninja got together with our chest displays to get some good pics showing the differences. Here is what we found.

    Sadly we didnt have a set of chest armor to try them out in. I do know that the TK409 dosnt quite fit for the BM chest windo. But in my opinion short of custom cutting the window few will work.

    The animations vary slightly on them, the brightness and size of the TK409 is great thought the shackman is shorter. Enjoy the pics and the video!

    Thanks Batninja for bringing your display so we could do this!!!

    *The brighter display with the white box LED and no ribbon is the TK409, the 2 part display with the black LED and ribbon is the Shackman display.

    MY THOUGHTS: I think there both great and I dont usualy say that and mean it like this but its true... I want a shackman and I want to keep my TK409... there different but both good... I also plan on owning several sets of armor..

    So great work TK409 and Shackman
    We love your displays!!!
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    May 12, 2006, 10:00 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #2

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    May 12, 2006, 10:21 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #3

    Here's another shot of them side by side.



    And here's another movie for those without QuickTime (complete with "Hotel California" Karaoke Drunk Woman soundtrack):

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v7...t=MOV01012.flv
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    May 12, 2006, 10:27 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #4

    In your professional opinions the Shackman would better fit a BM chest piece due to it's narrower width?
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    May 12, 2006, 10:35 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #5

    Yes, you would have to modify your display window on your BM armor for your TK409 to fit correctly!
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    May 12, 2006, 10:50 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #6

    Is the BM hole in the correct position to begin with? Would the modification be in the wrong place?

    Another option would be to cut a horizontal slit in the vest (button-hole the edges) so that the exposed edge of the TK409 board slides inside the slit (behind the vest), effectively hiding it. Here's a crude sketch:



    I did this once before on an old vest, because I cut the display slots in the wrong place on the armor. Rather than re-working the slots (Bondo, putty, sand, etc), I cut a slit in the vest to slide the circuit board through. Problem solved.
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    May 12, 2006, 11:04 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #7

    Quote batninja said:
    Is the BM hole in the correct position to begin with? Would the modification be in the wrong place?

    Another option would be to cut a horizontal slit in the vest (button-hole the edges) so that the exposed edge of the TK409 board slides inside the slit, effectively hiding it.
    I have the BM armor and the TK409 lights. The TK409 board is hidden behind the BM armor. It looks like the lower slot needs to made a little taller. I can get the exact dimensions and/or pic of the BM slots at lunchtime.

    Right from TK409's website:

    If your armor slots are cut to this size, our display will fit perfectly: (Thanks Brak's Buddy)

    Length of slots: 43mm
    Height of top slot: 4mm
    Distance between slots: 8mm
    Height of bottom slot: 8mm
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    May 12, 2006, 11:10 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #8

    To match the placement on the ROTJ and SE armor I have been digitising into BM stencils it would need to move down and to your right about a quarter inch or so.

    Here is a diagram!
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    May 12, 2006, 11:15 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #9

    Quote evan4218 said:
    To match the placement on the ROTJ and SE armor I have been digitising into BM stencils it would need to move down and to your right about a quarter inch or so.

    Here is a diagram!
    You're not making me happy here....

    Ugh... To keep it the way it is or to change it....
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    May 12, 2006, 11:18 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #10

    Visualy BMs widow gives the overall same effect... it has the same "Feel" as the origonal armor... it is a tad bit smaller there for the placement of the window makes a little bit more sence where it is, I would think, but my diagram is sowing the widow moved with the size difference in mind, shrinking the strait on shot in photoshop to fit the BM plate exactly. I think it is more or less vissualy centered from left to right on the MOM armor, design wise.
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    May 12, 2006, 12:35 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #11

    Here is the BM armor with TK409 lights:

    The slots measure:

    Length of slots: 48mm
    Height of top slot: 5mm
    Distance between slots: 7mm
    Height of bottom slot: 9mm






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    May 12, 2006, 1:00 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #12

    Thanks for posting that man!!! Its good to know they both fit.
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    May 12, 2006, 1:59 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #13

    I just used a file and ground down the bottom slot about 1\8" and the 409 lights fit just right. I'll post a pic later
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    May 12, 2006, 2:03 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #14

    Quote Delta75 said:
    I just used a file and ground down the bottom slot about 1\8" and the 409 lights fit just right. I'll post a pic later
    Yup... that is all that is needed to make it fit.
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    May 12, 2006, 2:04 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #15

    Quote Ripcode said:
    Yup... that is all that is needed to make it fit.
    Yep, wasn't as bad as it sounded when you mentioned it to me...
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    May 12, 2006, 2:10 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #16

    Quote Delta75 said:
    Yep, wasn't as bad as it sounded when you mentioned it to me...
    Sometimes I have a hard time explaining things...
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    May 12, 2006, 4:34 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #17

    Great comparison guys! I love seeing stuff like this.
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    May 12, 2006, 4:46 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #18

    Quote evan4218 said:
    To match the placement on the ROTJ and SE armor I have been digitising into BM stencils it would need to move down and to your right about a quarter inch or so.

    Here is a diagram!

    Love the diagram!
    Nice job.
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    May 12, 2006, 8:56 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #19

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think TK409's lights were made for MLC armor.
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    May 12, 2006, 9:10 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #20

    Thats good to know, I have MLC armor..

    Think my wife would mind a nice set of TK 409 chest lights for Mothers Day ?

    ahh cmon, it would be kinda like the gifts I get for Birthdays and Fathers days, you know, over sized sweatshirts and flanel PJ's that conveniently don't fit me that she wears lounging around the house..

    Can't blame a Fett for trying LOL


    BTW, great comparison, thanks for sizing them up for us. Both look very well made.

    for TK409
    for Shackman
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    May 13, 2006, 11:31 AM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #21

    Quote LionsPride said:
    Thats good to know, I have MLC armor..

    Think my wife would mind a nice set of TK 409 chest lights for Mothers Day ?

    ahh cmon, it would be kinda like the gifts I get for Birthdays and Fathers days, you know, over sized sweatshirts and flanel PJ's that conveniently don't fit me that she wears lounging around the house..

    Can't blame a Fett for trying LOL


    BTW, great comparison, thanks for sizing them up for us. Both look very well made.

    for TK409
    for Shackman
    Yeah, if you like sleeping on the sofa
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    May 13, 2006, 12:26 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #22

    Good info on chest displays.I just got my Tk409 chest display in and its bright in day and night. But I want to own a shackmen also, its a little more stuff and its not as bright as tk409. But they both look great.
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    May 13, 2006, 12:50 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #23

    I have seen the shackman and have owned TK 409's.

    Personally I dig the shackman its tad more sublte and subdued not as bright.

    Chris does great work though, it all depends on what your going for.
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    May 13, 2006, 2:27 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #24

    well I am sold on shackman's all the way now, cause I dig the black display opposed to the white one

    too bad they are not in production anymore
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    May 13, 2006, 3:18 PM - Re: Shackman Vs. TK409 Chest Display compare #25

    I have the TK-409 version and I thought it was a tad bright. I went to an optometrist and got a pair of those disposable sunglasses they had out for eye diolation. I cut it out and taped it to the inside of the window. Works like a charm.

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