What are the differences between Boba's ROTJ outfit and his Special Edition outfit?
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What are the differences between Boba's ROTJ outfit and his Special Edition outfit?
Yes been covered time and time again...basically...ROTJ SE has more pouches hip pouches are different, the ESB helmet was used...the ROTJ STUNT pack was used....some of the knee armor was used from pre production Wookie braids are ESB....all sorts of little things like only 1 gaunt hose on the right gaunt instead of 3 in ROTJ...but go ahead search a little
I don't really see the need in treating people like this. Who cares how many times it's been covered if you don't want to offer any info don't post. There are new guys every day.
SE braids are a design all their own as well different from ESB &ROTJ.
Here are the difference between the ROTJ Hero and the ROTJ SE (this was already posted in other threads):
1 - The helmet is the ESB Hero and not the ROTJ Hero.
2 - The whole armor is painted in the ROTJ scheme, but the only ROTJ Hero parts on this suit are the left gauntlet (not present in all the ROTJ SE stills), the back plate and the back belt, while the right gauntlet (not present in all the ROTJ SE stills - the gauntlet is slightly modified, more exactly they replacing the whipcord housing, the hose connector is different and they also added some paint touch-ups) and the left knee were part of the Pre-Pro #2 suit.
3 - The jetpack is ROTJ Hero (only in the ROTJ SE stills), although in the ROTJ SE (the movie) they used one of the damaged jetpacks.
4 - The wookie braids looks like Pre-Pro #3/ESB Hero, but the cape might be from one of the ESB Promo suits or possibly the Pre-Pro #2 (no evidence on this).
5 - There are 14 ammo pouches (versus 8 on ROTJ), which were part of one of the mismatched ESB Promo suits.
6 - The soft parts might be from any suit (except the Pre-Pro #2 vest which is present in the archives with most of the original armor parts).
ROTJ SE stills:
ROTJ SE onstage:
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Thank you guys for the help! I really appreciate it!
Well said woody. I couldn't agree more.
A lot of guys will just plop an ESB helmet onto an ROTJ costume and call themselves ROTJ:SE, when in actuality they don't put on the 4 extra belt pouches, the hose on the left gauntlet, etc....which would qualify them as that costume.
There's 5 different Lucasfilm ROTJ jetpacks that we know about on TDH, so basically just pick whichever weathering scheme you like and follow that one. They were all over the place with the paintjobs on them, too. Some have a dark blue and a bright yellow, others have a bright blue and a dark yellow, etc.
....and don't forget the ANH:SE Boba Fett, which is the straight up Magic of Myth ROTJ suit, except with the shoulder bells on reversed sides.
This is excellent info....... Thank you for sharing......
14? Cool. I thought I had remembered 12. Either way, the majority of those guys that call themselves SE Bobas need to add more pouches. lol
I know this has been covered, but the fact of the matter is that sometimes it helps to re-bring it up so some of us get a chance to see it and understand there are more differences than originally thought when we took on the build.... Thanks guys!
Speaking of the differences, does anyone make a 14 pouch SE belt? I see makers selling multiple SE belts with 10-12 pockets, but none with 14.....
I think you can request from the maker to add pouches.
Hmm. I will have to try that, because it would seem silly to not get a 14 pouch belt, but be super intense on everything else. Haha.
What were the colors of the knees and shoulder bells?
All orange/yellow? Hard to tell in the pictures....
And a BIG thanks to Woodman and RafalFett.
I believe the shoulders and knees are all the saame color for ROTJ. I've used rattlecan Krylon Equipment yellow for the ROTJ shoulders and knees. I think i used Krylon signal yellow underneath(for around the silver scratches) ..i cant remember. Its not a dead on match, could stand to be a little more orangey, but i think it looks very close. I havent done ROTJ with airbrush yet so havent gotten to try out suggestions.
Here is a set i did with these rattlecan colors(pre "dirt" weathering) The color here looks brighter than it actually is though:
Heres some screen shots so you can see the actual color:
Ya know looking at the screen shots and the shoulders i had done in the past...the rust color i airbrushed onto the one shoulder looks like it makes the yellow closer to the correct color if lightly misted over it...ya learn somethin every day lol
*I'd also like to thank Woodman for his earlier comment. I dont know why people have to get condescending when someone asks a question that has been covered. I have used the search and ya know, trying to find very specific info, even with the search is very difficult, if not impossible. Ive tried it.
Basically the ROTJ parts are darker in colors than the Pre-Pro #2.
The Pre-Pro #2 knee is painted in the layered method, while the whole ROTJ suit (as Mr Fett already said) was painted partially layered (the silver scratches) and partially topical (the yellow scratches) over existing ESB era armor parts (read more here ==> The Fate Of The Twin Armors: Pre-Pro #1, Pre-Pro #3 and ESB).
Since everyone seems to be so upset about this being covered already, maybe we should sticky it? The SE suit is done often due to the awesome ESB helmet, and great ROTJ armor looks and colors. I think there should be some sort of sticky to help everybody keep it straight and provide an easy link for new people.
Vote for sticky also
If they decide to sticky it, maybe do ALL the versions?? That way all the variations are covered. Just my $.02
Truthfully there should be an ROTJ, ESB, and this thread. If you have the gusto to do a promo or PrePro you probably already know what you are doing. I am with ya, but clobbering one thread with all versions will make it too nasty to read.
Do em all.... Makes sense to me
Or perhaps keep them all together in a master thread with separate links to each (kind of how the armor template threads are setup)...that way you can just click to the specific version you're looking at getting more info on (hope that makes sense). That way no one would have to read through a ton of information just to get to the one they're looking for
^thats what I was thinking! Like the helmet threads....
Wow... So looking at the screen shots by DV, the knees/shoulders are definitely not a solid color orange. I did find a rust oleum "warm yellow" that's more resembles stormtrooperguys "summer squash" for the bottom layer yellow.
Got it drying so ill mist the top yellow and orange tonight....wife permitting....
Haha I love that this discussion happened. I just received my Woody braids tonight. When my SE was approved, one note is that I should have ESB braids. So when I found out that Woody offered both ESB and SE braids, I ordered both just so I'd learn the difference right in front of me.
I also added the extra pouches (honestly I didn't want to just because the belt feels huge), and MOW offered his belt with 12 pouches, so I now have 12. Maybe I'll go back and get two more... Maybe slap them on my ears or something.
I also changed out my ammo pouches tonight as well to the correct match to the stills above.
I LOVE UPGRADES. I've learned more about and improved my SE so much since initial approval.
@zebrabuse....did you go with a light blue flight suit or ROTJ grey? I have an ESB I intend on trying to grey and was just curious. And about the ammo pouches, definitely believe RafalFett that there were14, but I have a 12 pouch in process, and as you said....where in the world would you put em? No one is gonna see them...AND you can only keep so many skittles on you at one time!
I had read 12 ammo pouches in several places, and I believe both BooBoo did and MOW does now offer SE belts with 12 pouches. I have all 12 on and it
forms an almost perfect 180 degree coverage on the front of the belt. I don't think I'll go with 14 anytime soon, but I trust Rafal as well. I love my MOW belt though
with the functional pockets. Definitely packing plenty of spare batteries now!
And I should have clarified in my last post that I changed out my smaller white ROTJ style cloth belt pouches to a larger gray/brown SE style set. I love them!
And with the Woodman SE vs ESB braids. I love the quality of them both. Definitely heftier than my original self made set.
Got a set of Woodman braids for SE headed my way! FS coming from Arkady so I can finally start seeing how the girth belt will look with it.
Are the pouches different size from ROTJ other than weathering? Anyone got some good pics to post up of their outfit?
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I was packing my gear up Wens for a small film shoot last night, and you can see my ammo belt with the 12 pouches and new multi color cloth pouch scheme. I know I know, I need to beat up the ammo belt and darken it a little more. Add it to the queue! Anyway my new cloth pouches are more squared and more like snowy pouches. I'm still
working on filling them out the best way with foam.
That will come in handy! Nice looking filthy flak vest! No way that part of the outfit should ever look like new off the showroom floor! Thanks for that....and the photo looks awesome. My wife would kill me if I were to try and put something up like that....
It looks like there may be a pouch from ESB and one from ROTJ in the pic.