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  1. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 3, 2009, 10:01 AM - RotJ Hero Costume #1

    My question is... Do we know what costume is the RotJ Hero one?

    I have been studying the screen caps and in about 75% of the scenes I see the MoM armor (except Cod/Butt). The AoSW armor (except Cod/Butt) can only be seen at one scene. Which one then?!?! POST YOUR OPINION PLEASE!

    I also know that the AoSW jet pack is a stunt jet pack used when Boba jumps into the Luke's boat. The Hero jet pack should be the MoM one. That explains why it has another kind of beacon at the bottom of the jet pack, because it was a hole.



    About the Ankle Spats I don't know which ones were used, both are equal, but I have seen that on the MoM costume one spat was lost and they (LFL) remplaced it with one of the PrePro #2 (the left one I think, I can't remember). That can be seen because they are diferent fabrics, also diferent colours (the PP2 is pinky).



    The Hero Cod is the one from AoSW. It can be seen with the MoM armor at the Hutt "house" scene.

    The Hero helmet... well, just one helmet, the MoM one I have done a list with the Humbrol colors. Some where posted here by micke and evan4218, but I have done my own research and I have found some diferent colors for mandibles, grey over all the helmet (yes, IMO it was the same grey on mandibles, just light applied).

    The Hero blaster is with the MoM exhibit.

    About the soft parts, there's no diference between both. Well, for purists, I'm sure there's diference, but I haven't studied the pics that much

    When filming, the gloves still had a greyish ESB tone on them.

    Post!

    EDIT: I have posted the pic of the AoSW Pack! Thanks ART!
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  2. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 3, 2009, 11:35 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Armor #2

    About the ESB Armor, that's what I think that the original parts are:

    Left/Right Chest Plate, Knees (except the right one), Backplate/Collar & Cod/Butt : AoSW Costume

    Ab. Piece : MoM Costume

    Shoulders : MoM Costume, filled big dent.

    Gauntlets : Any of them, ESB were 100% Vacumformed, the left one too.

    Jet Pack : Maybe they did new ones, so I don't know.

    Glightsuit and Gloves : I don't know, both costumes have blue dye on some parts of the flightsuit.

    Cape : Are you kidding me?

    Pouches : AoSW

    Ammo Belt : Any of them.

    Helmet : AoSW (NOT repainted of course)

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  3. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 3, 2009, 2:35 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #3

    I'm starting to think that the Hero RotJ armor is the one seen on MoM Exhibit, because all the pieces I see on the AoSW costume are from the scene where Luke cut the blaster to Boba.

    C'mon, say something! Don't be shy! ART, I know you're a RotJ guy, you can't be quiet in front of a RotJ thread, c'mon!
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    Jun 3, 2009, 3:41 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #4

    This is all very interesting info. Keep it going. We could draw a diagram of which MoM and AoSW parts were used in which scenes.
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    Jun 3, 2009, 3:50 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #5

    Quote KaanE said: View Post
    I'm starting to think that the Hero RotJ armor is the one seen on MoM Exhibit, because all the pieces I see on the AoSW costume are from the scene where Luke cut the blaster to Boba.
    i'm not really one for the super research, but i've based all of my armor / helmets on mom just because it looks "right". i've never studied frame by frame to see why, but it just feels more rotj to me.
  6. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 3, 2009, 11:50 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #6

    The MoM costume also makes me think about pure RotJ, BTW your costume is really nice stormtrooperguy! What I have seen is that the pouches usen on the MoM costume, really were used for the AoSW costume as you can see at the pic I posted on the first post.
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    Jun 4, 2009, 5:38 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #7

    I'm still new here, so what does MoM and AoSW stand for?
  8. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 4, 2009, 6:42 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #8

    Quote Mereel said: View Post
    I'm still new here, so what does MoM and AoSW stand for?
    Both are Exhibitions where diferent costumes were shown. The most noticiable things of both are:

    MoM : RotJ Hero Helmet, RotJ Hero Blaster, Cod from a PP#2 Stunt.

    AoSW : ESB Hero Helmet, RotJ Stunt Blaster (It's wonky), Cod from RotJ, PP#2 left knee. This costume was used for the "new" scenes added in the Special Edition RotJ movie.

    A pic to compare is attached. For more info about both costume combinations you must take a look at the New Gallery, and to the Wiki.

    AoSW Pic : Alex (SpideyFett) and Miller (DarthMiller) - MoM Pic : Me aka KaanE

    As you can see at my pic, Fett doesn't have blaster. Some places display the blaster and others don't, but the costume is the same.
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    Jun 4, 2009, 6:44 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #9

    Ah, thanks for the explanation.
  10. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 4, 2009, 8:26 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #10

    I have found something new, maybe you knew it, but I didn't. The broken knee of MoM, was not repaired, it has been replaced for one used at a "stunt" scene. I have the proof



    As you can see in the pic, it has the same discoloration, the same dent and also the same line on the "cuted" side! And well, there is NOT a line in the middle of the side as all the knees have.

    Don't look at the red lines, just the green ones. I took the pic from the FP V.3 Armor and I haven't deleted the red arrows, I'm sorry.
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    Jun 4, 2009, 9:47 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #11

    Quote Mereel said: View Post
    I'm still new here, so what does MoM and AoSW stand for?
    Though Kaane answered this more in depth, he didn't explain what the acronyms actually mean.

    MoM= The Magic of Myth

    AoSW= The Art of Star Wars

    You can check out HUGE reference pictures of these two exhibits in TDH wiki.

    There ya go!

    Kody
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    Jun 4, 2009, 9:49 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #12

    Thanks.
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    Jun 4, 2009, 11:56 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #13

    son of a... i have a PP2 left knee. and here i thought i had a pure rotj. good thing i've got new rubber knees to paint up sometime soon.
  14. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 4, 2009, 1:40 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #14

    So, in what scene are we going to consider that the Hero costume was? Then I could do a breakdown of what parts were used and post it here

    For me it's the one which wears at the Jabba's cave, also on the big boat (It's the same costume)

    Post your opinion please
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    Jun 4, 2009, 2:10 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #15

    That's why my pre-pro will a bit of every Boba.
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    Jun 4, 2009, 2:57 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #16

    Quote KaanE said: View Post
    So, in what scene are we going to consider that the Hero costume was? Then I could do a breakdown of what parts were used and post it here

    For me it's the one which wears at the Jabba's cave, also on the big boat (It's the same costume)

    Post your opinion please
    I always thought it was the costume worn in Jabba's palace.

    Kody
  17. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 4, 2009, 3:02 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #17

    You also know this Seeker, but if you need help with the colors, let me know

    That's what I think, theother scenes were jumps, crashes, explosions and dead so they should have used Stunt costumes, IMO.
  18. Jun 4, 2009, 8:10 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #18

    thanks for the help guys i was un shure on which was which
  19. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 6, 2009, 5:57 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #19

    Do anyone has any pic of the left knee which should be with the AoSW costume instead of the PP#2 knee?
  20. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 8, 2009, 8:20 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #20

    Anyone?
  21. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 8, 2009, 3:12 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #21

    I have seen that in some post(?)-production pics of RotJ, Fett has the MoM pouches with the Hero armor instead of the AoSW ones.
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    Jun 8, 2009, 3:39 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #22

    Quote KaanE said: View Post
    I have seen that in some post(?)-production pics of RotJ, Fett has the MoM pouches with the Hero armor instead of the AoSW ones.
    Where are you getting these awesome pics from?

    G-Fett
  23. KaanE is offline KaanE
    Jun 8, 2009, 3:48 PM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #23

    I have been saving a lot of pics since 2006

    Here are two more pics, the first one is the damaged jet pack, the second one is when filming, a diferent point of view, nothing new, well he's using the left knee of the new "The Exhibition" tour (MOM costume) :
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    Nov 11, 2009, 11:31 AM - Re: RotJ Hero Costume #24

    Another interesting thread that I somehow missed earlier.

    Wow, if you look at the AOSW and MOM side by side pics, assuming the mannqeuins are roughly the same saze, there's a big difference in placement of the shin tool pockets.

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