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  1. RafalFett's Avatar
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    May 15, 2012, 3:13 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #26

    I didn't posted here for some time mainly because I have bought for 10USD a hand telescope from etsy.com, more exactly this one (here is the link for the telescope ==> Panorama Telescope On ETSY):

    dsc05920-jpg dsc05921-jpg

    It's a beautiful piece in excellent condition but without instructions or other papers. The only written thing is on the bottom of the box in german - opa hätte das gerne nach gebrauch wieder 'opa' - which I translated to this - grandpa would like to use it again 'grandpa' -:

    panorama-25x30mm-telescope-02-jpg

    I bought this mainly because I wanted to see similarities/differences with the 4th shin tool and also with the Supertrooper/Pre-Pro/Promo sling guns. Altough this is not compatible with the 4th shin tool (only if we can find a telescope with the correct thickness) because the casing's thickness is only 1mm and the outer diameter is 32mm (this is not a big issue) it is a good candidate for the sling gun barrel, for both Supertrooper/Pre-Pro #1 and Pre-Pro #2/Promo suits:

    pp1-sling-gun-telescope-2-jpg dsc05920-jpg

    pp2-sling-gun-telescope-2-jpg dsc05932-jpg

    I did a parts breakdown file and a basic measurements file of the telescope as a guide for those who whould like to use this for whatever reason:

    telescope-template-jpg telescope-template-measurement-jpg

    The casing, the ring and the inner tubes are metal and the rest is plastic:

    dsc05929-jpg dsc05922-jpg dsc05924-jpg dsc05925-jpg dsc05928-jpg

    The hunt continues...
    Last edited by RafalFett; May 15, 2012 at 3:33 AM. Reason: Text corrected.
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    May 15, 2012, 9:19 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #27

    You're really top work here in the forum thanks!
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    May 15, 2012, 10:52 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #28

    Awesome Job Rafa!
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    May 16, 2012, 2:16 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #29

    Quote bojaGun said: View Post
    You're really top work here in the forum thanks!
    Thanks!

    Quote SEEKER said: View Post
    Awesome Job Rafa!
    Thanks a lot!
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    May 16, 2012, 3:49 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #30

    Fantastic work! I am non-stop surprised by your researcher's tremendous qualities!
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    May 16, 2012, 5:33 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #31

    Quote StrumFett said: View Post
    Fantastic work! I am non-stop surprised by your researcher's tremendous qualities!
    Thanks a lot, StrumFett! You are too kind!
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    May 17, 2012, 6:16 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #32

    Hey Raf, I was going through my Star Wars Complete Visual Dictionary and it has this image of the adjustment tool. (sorry ****** iphone pic)
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    May 17, 2012, 7:39 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #33

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    Hey Raf, I was going through my Star Wars Complete Visual Dictionary and it has this image of the adjustment tool. (sorry ****** iphone pic)
    That is an invented tool (specially made for the Visual Dictionary), like the reinvented or modified Sonic Beam Weapon and the Survival Knife:

    shin-tools-original-vs-fake-jpg shin-tools-compatibility-jpg

    All the tools, except the Anti-Security Blades are fan made tools, but uses actual found parts, while the Jetpack Adjustment Tool is a steel pipe in lack of found part (but is closer than the fake one).
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    May 17, 2012, 8:05 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #34

    Aaahhh, okay. Thanks for the clarification on it.
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    May 31, 2012, 7:38 PM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #35

    After reading this thread, I picked up a Technar hand telescope. It's a great match to the sling gun I got from seeker! Thanks for pointing them out!

    I'll be swapping the replica parts out for this, so that I can have a retractable barrel
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    Jun 1, 2012, 12:39 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #36

    Quote stormtrooperguy said: View Post
    After reading this thread, I picked up a Technar hand telescope. It's a great match to the sling gun I got from seeker! Thanks for pointing them out!

    I'll be swapping the replica parts out for this, so that I can have a retractable barrel
    I'm glad that this thread helped you out! It seems that most of these hand telescopes shares the same parts and mainly because all these were made in Japan, the most noticeable differences are the presence of the ring and the lenght of the tube.
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    Dec 21, 2012, 7:09 PM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #37

    Going by this image, were there originally two chemical stirrers on the ESB suit?

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    Dec 21, 2012, 9:10 PM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #38

    HMMMMMM what do we have here?
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    Dec 21, 2012, 11:34 PM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #39

    Quote kurtyboy said: View Post
    Going by this image, were there originally two chemical stirrers on the ESB suit?
    Actually that is one of the mismatched promo suits with the Pre-Pro #2 armor except the Pre-Pro #1 left chest plate (the SW Blu-Ray armor) and the right gauntlet, the Sandy helmet, the Promo #1 jetpack and cod plate:

    boba-fett-promotional-armor-2-06-jpg boba-fett-promotional-armor-2-01-jpg

    The 'extra' Survival Knife (chemical stirrer) must be a leftover from another suit.
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    Dec 27, 2012, 12:52 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #40

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I hate the "made up" props in the DK book. To me that's like inventing things for a King Tut exhibit or adding horns to a Tyrannosaurus Rex skeleton "because it looks cool". Movie props are pieces of history. In the touring Star Wars exhibit, some of the light sabres are licensed replicas. LAME.

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    I don't know about the rest of you, but I hate the "made up" props in the DK book. To me that's like inventing things for a King Tut exhibit or adding horns to a Tyrannosaurus Rex skeleton "because it looks cool". Movie props are pieces of history. In the touring Star Wars exhibit, some of the light sabres are licensed replicas. LAME.
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    Dec 27, 2012, 1:15 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #41

    Quote SPY007 said: View Post
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I hate the "made up" props in the DK book. To me that's like inventing things for a King Tut exhibit or adding horns to a Tyrannosaurus Rex skeleton "because it looks cool". Movie props are pieces of history. In the touring Star Wars exhibit, some of the light sabres are licensed replicas. LAME.
    More shame goes for those who have access to the real suit and still their replicas are far from being accurate. You have all the measurements you want, lots of photos taken by you or from the archives, even they let you cast one of the original helmets, and you still can't do a decent job. The shin tools are just the tip of the iceberg...
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    Dec 30, 2012, 8:58 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #42

    the thing with the DK books is that they are not prop collector guides... they are in-universe books aimed at kids. a 7 years old wants a laser slicer, not a patterson squeegee
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    Feb 1, 2013, 5:08 PM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #43

    Cant let this Die, on the RPF theres a thread about the Graphlex, there are a few variations of the switch used....Graflex Variations: Facts and vs. Replica check out the real ones in the pics....and this here Boba Fett First Prototype Costume - The Dented Helmet Gallery

    based on the size of the knee darts it would have to be slightly larger then them, but smaller in diameter then the paint stirrer... any ideas here raf?
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    Feb 2, 2013, 3:29 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #44

    Quote Fett 4 Real said: View Post
    Cant let this Die, on the RPF theres a thread about the Graphlex, there are a few variations of the switch used....Graflex Variations: Facts and vs. Replica check out the real ones in the pics....and this here Boba Fett First Prototype Costume - The Dented Helmet Gallery

    based on the size of the knee darts it would have to be slightly larger then them, but smaller in diameter then the paint stirrer... any ideas here raf?
    Thanks for reviving this thread!

    Well, in our case that RPF thread doesn't help too much, except this older variation of the Graflex flash tube (Graflex Variations: Facts and vs. Replica - Post #3), which seems to be the correct tube for the Supertrooper blaster:

    correct-st-blaster-graflex-jpg

    The great thing about this Graflex tube is that it has a different button, the so called 'telegraph' style button, which also has the correct diameter (around 12mm, the other posted in the first post had around 13mm) and it looks pretty close to the red thing in the Pre-Pro #1 4th shin tool:

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    Feb 11, 2013, 4:08 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #45

    Added some interesting info to the end of the first post.
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    Sep 7, 2013, 4:18 PM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #46

    This is great work..... and we'll zero in on this sooner than later....
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    Sep 8, 2013, 1:14 AM - Re: RafalFett Strikes Back... with the 4th Shin Tool! #47

    Quote Major said: View Post
    This is great work..... and we'll zero in on this sooner than later....
    Thanks for the kind words! I hope too that we will find the missing shin tool sooner or later...

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