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  1. RafalFett's Avatar
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    Dec 28, 2011, 7:54 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #26

    So far so good! Can't wait to see more progress images!
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    Dec 28, 2011, 8:52 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #27

    Dude, this looks fantastic, did you hand draw that detail on the helmet, or is that some kind of transfer from the templates?
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    Dec 28, 2011, 9:06 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #28

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    Thats all i can say
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    Dec 28, 2011, 11:35 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #29

    Looking good can't wait to see that second layer of paint put down!!!
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    Dec 28, 2011, 4:14 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #30

    Quote TopHatWalrus said: View Post
    Very cool, I can't wait to get my bucket to painting stage... it will be fun to say the least
    How long have you spent on this so far Phantom?
    Just the helmet was almost an hour and a half or so to mark it out, the armour was a bit longer trying to get the marks in the dents right was the hardest part and then about two hours masking only because the masking fluid didn't take well in places.

    Quote grungie_42 said: View Post
    Dude, this looks fantastic, did you hand draw that detail on the helmet, or is that some kind of transfer from the templates?
    Thanks mate. I used RafalFetts' templates. Printed them out and then scaled them up/down to suit the armour/helmet. I got some graphite paper (like carbon paper) from an art supply shop near where I work.
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    Dec 29, 2011, 7:18 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #31

    Ok. Got some colour on today not happy.
    Ran out of the yellow, just as well not a great looking colour even with a couple of light coats. Went and got a couple of others to test out.
    I am leaning towards the yellow on the strip on the bottom left, maybe I can use the one on the right for the kill stripes.
    Please let me know what you think, I want to get the yellow down in the next day or two.

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    Taken indoors under fluorescent light
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    Dec 29, 2011, 9:54 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #32

    The yellow looks good. Keep the excellent work coming!
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    Dec 30, 2011, 4:30 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #33

    I am pretty happy with how it all turned out so far. Had a couple of little issues with the paint. Went on ok in most places but it feels a little rough and I got some crazing on the cod piece. Not big problems some steel wool to smooth out the roughness and some sand paper to fix the crazing just to smooth it out as it will be green in that area, so as I said no big probs. Some knuckle head got so excited he sprayed the left shoulder all yellow then noticed the ref pics and templates have a dull grey on there 'doh. So after a lot of sanding I got it back to the base, re-primed and re silvered. Now I can put on the masking tonight and spray grey tomorrow morning then mask out and do the yellow then all the yellow is done.


    Will do some test sprays of some greens tomorrow to hopefully get some feedback from you guys.
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    Dec 30, 2011, 8:40 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #34

    Looking awesome dude. Can't wait to see how it turns out!! What masking fluid are you using and where did you source it?
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    Dec 30, 2011, 4:44 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #35

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    Looking awesome dude. Can't wait to see how it turns out!! What masking fluid are you using and where did you source it?
    Thanks mate. I am using Art Spectrum masking fluid. I got it from Oxlades in the Valley not far from where I work. Most good art shops or model shops should have some. If you can't find any let me know and I will see if I can pick some up for ya.
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    Dec 30, 2011, 11:42 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #36

    Well down to the greens....
    As I am using spray cans and the little cans of Tamiya are a bit expensive I have done a test run using some colours suggested to me by Jayvee.
    From left to right
    Colorbond 'Wilderness' - helmet, armour, gaunts, jetpack
    Colorbond 'Cottage Green' - misting armour
    Fiddly Bits 'Heritage Green' - misting armour
    Tamiya 'Field Gray' TS-78 - helmet, armour, gaunts, Jetpack
    Taniya 'Olive Green' AS-14 - left ear
    Tamiya 'Dull Red' TS-33 - for sienna on right shoulder
    Squirts 'Clay Stone' - for sienna on right shoulder


    The Wilderness colour and Field Gray are so very close its not funny. Wilderness is probably a little glossier but matt sealer over the top should be ok. I could use the Tamiya for the helmet as there isn't much there.
    Not sure if Wilderness is ok for the rest of the armour as the rest of the armour looks darker. Would I use it as a base and build up the colour misting with the other darker green and then with weathering?
    The Cottage Green and Heritage Green are pretty close the Heritage Green being a bit darker. Both are a little glossy. Would either one of these be ok for misting on the armour to darken it up?
    The Tamiya Olive Green looks a bit dull, should I look for a more greener green for the left ear?
    Thoughts or suggestions please
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    Dec 31, 2011, 2:15 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #37

    The colors looks OK to me. I have a few images tweaked a little by me to adjust the colors that might help you:

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    Dec 31, 2011, 6:27 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #38

    Thanks Raf, that does help. I will use the Wilderness colour darken it up with a mist of a darker green and weathering in places.
    Another little problem has popped up. While re-masking the left shoulder I noticed that the decal I have is way too small. The templates from Raf on RKDs armour fit perfectly and the skull emblem on that is much larger. What is the size supposed to be for the skull and the chest emblem? The decals I got when I bought the kit just look way to small, I could have used them on my sons armour.
    The Fenixprops decal is roughly just under 3 x 1.5 inches and Rafs template one is roughly 4 x 2 inches.
    I was thinking of hitting Lucksy31 up for some of his.


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    Jan 1, 2012, 6:19 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #39

    Why don't you paint it yourself? You can find all my chest and shoulder decals in the Armor sticky thread.
    I saw that you drawn the Medium Gray to the left shoulder. I assume that you know that this is a misted color (like the Sienna) and you should draw only a preliminary contour, then mist the color using the stencils (or any reference material you have) as a guidance.
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    Jan 14, 2012, 3:20 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #40

    It has been a while a few paint issues but solved.
    I have all the yellow done and masked ready for the green.
    I have done the green on the back part of the belt to see how it looked. I think it looks ok for spray paints. It will need a bit of weathering on it but I would like to know what you guys think. Is the green ok? I know indoor photography makes it a bit tough with paint colours. I wanted to do a small part before I painted all the armour. Once I get some feed back will be painting the rest.



    I have also cut up the cape and I have had it hanging outside on my sons basket ball hoop for a week or so. We have a front loader so it is a bit tougher to get the fraying effect so I am rubbing it on the concrete outside to fray it up and rough it up a bit before I weather it.

    Thoughts and comments are always welcome.
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    Jan 14, 2012, 4:05 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #41

    I have some difficulties with replying to others, but sometimes I manage to do it and I hope this will be fixed shortly.

    I think you should mix a little blue (not too much) in that base green to kill the 'green' (if you know what I mean).

    Keep the good work coming!
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    Jan 14, 2012, 8:12 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #42

    Thanks Raf.
    That green is a couple of light misting layers and then hit with some fine steel wool.
    I think I know what you mean, but I am using spray paint cans.
    I could possibly lightly mist one layer of a blue under the last mist of the green and hopefully it will sort of dull the green back a bit when I hit it with some steel wool. Do you think this would work or help with the too green? What type of blue?
    Or as I haven't weathered it yet either should I stick with the green as it stands? I will mist some areas with some flat black and will be using either an acrylic wash or some pastels (blacks and browns). I used the pastels on my sons RC and it worked well.
    Sorry about all the questions.
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    Jan 14, 2012, 11:34 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #43

    Misting a blue layer before the final green might be a good choice, but you might try more variations to achieve the best result(s). I am no paint expert, so I can't help you too much in this. You might use the Pre-Pro #1 left chest plate as a template for painting:

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    Jan 15, 2012, 4:46 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #44

    I took on the advice from Raf.
    Here are some green alternatives. Wasn't a great day for painting, overcast and some drizzle but I wanted to keep going with the armour colours.
    All have 2 light misting layers of the Colorbond 'Cottage Green' from post 36.
    From left to right:
    Mist of blue grey then while drying mist of the green
    Mist of pale grey then while drying mist of the green
    Mist of primer then while drying mist of the green
    Wash of blue acrylic and mist of the green when dry

    All have been rubbed back with fine steel wool. Probably rubbed it back a bit harder than with the armour piece I did the other day.
    I am leaning towards the one on the left...thoughts??
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    Jan 15, 2012, 5:45 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #45

    I like too the left green, is the closest from all. But looking at the back belt in the background, I noticed that the yellow is a bit too strong, and might be a good idea to mist a light (very light) coat of orange(ish).
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    Jan 15, 2012, 9:46 AM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #46

    Looking good Phantom !
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    Jan 15, 2012, 12:54 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #47

    When I painted my armor I used a gloss Sun Yellow for the undercoat and it was bright like yours but after I finished the green layer I went over the whole thing with steel wool and it dulled everything up, blending some of the green into the yellow and de-intensifying it.
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    Jan 15, 2012, 2:50 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #48

    Thanks guys.
    I will hit the piece again with some steel wool still looks a bit shiney and hope it will dull down the yellow. If not maybe I can spot touch it up with a diluted orangey coloured paint because I really don't want to have to strip it all back again just for a couple of little bits of yellow plus when I weather it up it will dull it down some.
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    Jan 16, 2012, 12:24 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #49

    You could also get satin or matt clear in a rattle can from your car spares shop if you want a non shiney finish ..
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    Jan 16, 2012, 2:30 PM - Re: Phantom ESB Fett #50

    I have got a matt spray that I am planning on using once I have all the weathering on. I also used it over the silver because I found that when I did my sons Boba the silver didn't take to the masking fluid very well.

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