Discussion on Official Scope Thread within the Boba Fett Costume forum, part of the Star Wars Original Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; Okay.. I'm trying to decide what I should do.. either
Okay.. I'm trying to decide what I should do.. either make a close to the real thing (close is the key word) of the scope that is used on the MOM rifle.. or go out and by the real thing... well close to it. So if anyone of you have bought a scope... and lets say you got it at Walmart.. what type or name.. or model should I be looking for.. or be asking for??? Any pictures and or sites that might sell something close that you have used for your own rifle would be cool to see. Thanks
Tasco scopes have been a suggested standby by quite a number of propmakers for the rifle kits out there. Hope this helps!
Yea, go with a Tasco 4X15. It is around $10 after tax at Wally World and works great. Good Luck
Thanks all... I'll go to wally world this week for sure and check out what they have...
Yup. I got mine at Walmart for $6.99.
What the hell is wally world?
Some Wal-Marts still have the $6.99 version but most of the Wal-Marts around here don't stock them any longer. Sports Authority had the Tasco on display but when I asked for a couple they handed me Bushnell's. I also ordered a couple of Tascos off an internet site and they sent me Bushnell's instead as well. Don't know whats up with that but the one Wal-Mart that used to stock them here quit stocking them about 3 weeks ago. They said they were not able to get them any more. The Bushnell's are exactly the same though so no worries.webchief wrote:Yup. I got mine at Walmart for $6.99.
Wally World = Wal-Martbfett81 wrote:What the hell is wally world?
National Lampoon's Family Vacation!
"Wallyyyy World... We're there, kids!"
does anyone know the measurement of the real scope?
Priced the scoop here in Canada... at Walmart.. and its $35.00.... ouch... well ouch since I think I can make mine out of wood and stuff.. to look pretty close to the real thing. Anyway... wish me luck...lol.. and I cannot remember who said it.. but they said the best part of a Fett suit is making it yourself.. and I guess that is a way to look at it and appreciate it more... rather then thinking on all the money spent on it.... I guess... lol
This is the scope that Lordsandy on the RPF found...
It is an ASI 4x20. If you find a source, please share. Because this scope has been ellusive to say the least.
That sure looks like its a match. Does ASI stand for anything? I can't find that scope mfg on the internet. Would be worth spending some time looking for.
Well, I have been told for a LONG time that the Fett blaster is an ASI 4X20 scope. Well, I finally managed to snag one and hope to settle this theory once and for all.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBWA%3AIT&rd=1
As soon as I get the scope in (gonna be several weeks) I will post full comparisons. I hope my search for a good Fett scope is finally over, but we will see...
So it was you?!
Congrats on the scope.
The NAME of the winner didn't give it away?
Did you bid on it?
I had spotted it and forgot all about it until today. *Doh!*
But at least now we'll know for sure if thats what we're looking for.
Yeah,I've been holding off getting a scope for fear that it will be difinitively ID'd soon.I've always heard the ASI thing too Braks so it'll be nice to find out once and for all......and if so a $16 grab is a bargain
Cool! Look forward to hearing the results!
There is zero doubt............trust me..
Congrats my friend!
Jim S.
Not to be a doubting Thomas, but what about this one that DCB won? Not only does it look like the same one, but it is a Webley scope, you know, like Webley and Scott, or is this an ASI scope?
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=8771&forum=5
::edit:: pic added
The windage knob base and screws are not correct Thomas.....
I sent some pics over to BB if he wants he can post them here.
Cheers!
I was going to jump on that scope as well Braks until I noticed the one piece mounting piece...Congrats anyhow!
One of mine had that also, ita a snap to remove and add the correct rings.
Plus as a bonus I think it is the correct mount for the Nostromo Alien pistol!
Jim
So the verdict here is...........
As promised here are the compares. Just want to point out, as far as I know this is LORDSANDY's discovery. I don't want anyone to think I made this discovery. All credit goes to him.
As you may notice the little angled plate at the bottom of the scope ring, that grips the scope mount is a bit short on mine. Fortunately this is a removeable part and I can easily have some machined to the right dimensions.
I'd say we have a winner.
Looks spot on to me
Nathan
BTW, BobaFettish, the scope DCB snagged looks a little more like the two scopes seen on Dr Evazan's blaster which are ever so slightly different from what is seen on Fett's blaster. If DCB would move the scope rings a bit and take a better pic, I could tell you for sure.
Looks like you got a winner. Now you know the rules, you have to have enough for the whole class!
Are you saying you would like to make castings?
Brak's,
Great comparison pics!
Sorry if I hijacked the post......I was just positive the ASI is the right scope.
Glad you got one and hope you enjoy it!
Cheers,
Jim S.
Jim, you were right on the money! You know me though; like to prove it for myself. I think the pics above say it all. Thanks again for your help!
Spidey [cough, cough] cast it [cough].
Let me think about it. I am pretty stretched for time but I would love to be a part of this great find!
Brak's Buddy wrote:
Are you saying you would like to make castings?
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, (been so busy with the rest of my suit that I haven't gotten a chance to do much blaster research yet) but is the ASI 4 X 20 a particularly difficult scope to find?? anyone know how long they were produced and possibly, in what quantity, (ie. were they a popular model???) I'm jast wondering if I should start visiting sporting goods stores in my area, or should I just save my gas money & go strait to ebay??? Great find there BB
Damian
Dead on man, great find guys!
Bartek
Well done!
Next one's mine
Jango's kid , they seem to be relatively rare and can generally only be found on eBay. They are not particularly well built. Seem like a cheap model. The Tasco models found at pretty much any Wal_Mart are much more well built... but aren't accurate.
What is wrong?
Lordsandy wrote:
The windage knob base and screws are not correct Thomas.....
I sent some pics over to BB if he wants he can post them here.
Cheers!
I saw one that I may buy,can it be fixed?
I would suggest you buy it if you can get it cheap. There are many old 4 x 20 scopes out there. I have several different types and the windage knobs/housing/screws can be interchanged if required... pick 'n mix to give the correct combination.
slave1pilot wrote:
What is wrong?
Lordsandy wrote:
The windage knob base and screws are not correct Thomas.....
I sent some pics over to BB if he wants he can post them here.
Cheers!
I saw one that I may buy,can it be fixed?
Well I did say that the next one will be mine and I just received it this morning.
Hard to tell from the photo but it is exactly the same as brak's one above. The plastic ring infront of the rear bell is missing but I have plenty spare ones including vintage ASI ones
Brak's Buddy wrote:
Jango's kid , they seem to be relatively rare and can generally only be found on eBay. They are not particularly well built. Seem like a cheap model. The Tasco models found at pretty much any Wal_Mart are much more well built... but aren't accurate.
Congrats buddy!
can anyone confirm if this is the same scope used in ESB blaster as well?
We think so.............but not 100% positive.
Jim S.
As Lordsandy said, every pic I have seen of ESB seems to confirm it is the same scope. Believe it or not, there appear to have only been a certain number of scopes used in SW but they were used again and again ana again. Apparently they had 20 of this scope, 10 of that scope and 15 of another scope...
Can you do a side by side comparison to the scope that everyone is getting on ebay for $15? The newer not so acurate one (Simmons)?
I am interested to see how close it really is to the ASI.
I do not have the scope that is being bought on ebay... Sorry.
Just picked up my 2nd screen accurate ASI scope. I also have a 3rd one which has the slightly differen windage knob part with no screws in it, but at least I've got one for ESB and one for ROTJ now
If you get to the point where you want to get rid of one keep me in mind
Got this on ebay any good?
So did I do good? it cost me $25 US
I passed on that one because its not the correct style. The rear bell is completely different and the windage knobs are the wrong style.
Still, you got a nice pair of vintage scope rings for $25
Ull Dar Borealis wrote:
Got this on ebay any good?
So did I do good? it cost me $25 US
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Looks like I'm finally gonna be part of this club of original ASI scope& ring owners!!!!!
I can hardly wait to finish my helmet paintjob to get onto building my ESB EE-3 now that I have every part I need !!!!!
Thanks Marcus
Steve
Just scored my second screen accurate Boba Fett scope. Actually its my third, but I sold one to DL44 Blaster (see above post!).
I bought this of ebay on april 11... hoping it will ever get here... but uhw... is it accurate? looks accurate 2 me...
this is what the auction said:
[color=#0000ff]The scope is the 1003 model and is new, unused and still in its original box. The scope is built to fit on ¾ inch grooves of air rifles and .22 rifles and comes with lens caps, scope mounts, and a black shiny finish. The scope also comes with a warranty from Simmons. You do not have to buy anything else to put a scope on you air rifle or .22 rifle with a grooved receiver.[/color]
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hmm.... comes with "black shiny finish"... sjees, these people who sell them probably say we're nuts trying to make em look like rusted, used pieces of near trash compactor thingies...
The modern Simmons are a cheap alternative for those not too fussy with accuracy.
hows bout being fuzzy with accuracy but not having a big enough wallet in most cases, not making lots of money being only 17, or lack of material resources?
Nikko Stirling make a scope that would fit the bill for a Fett rifle
It is aboutt the right lenght and looks incredibly similar
Check the windage/elevation caps on the Nikko. All the Nikko's I have don't have the correct 'cone' shaped caps. Instead they have flat topped caps much like the Dr. Evazan / Bowcaster scopes.
Originally Posted by FettTheHunter
Nikko Stirling make a scope that would fit the bill for a Fett rifle
It is aboutt the right lenght and looks incredibly similar
My Nikko does not have the cone shaped thingies either .. but thats okay, for £14 it looks close enough .. works pretty good too
Hello,
Take a look at my scope drawings and let me know what you all think.
Alan
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/misc/wol/
Last edited by wizardofflight; 10-30-2005 at 03:20 PM.
Just picked up my third screen accurate ASI scope
Now I have one for each of my Fett rifles (2 x ESB and 1 x ROTJ)
I have been searching and searching for one of these...could anyone who still looks and actually find one, please let me know (Braks, Kurt, anyone) I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
What ya think about this one ?
I know, the brackets are not right, but otherwise it could work too for a ROTJ rifle, like a modern version.
Looks great! Nice find. Who is the manufacturer and how much are they costing?
In my post above there is a link to my scope drawings the one I did for Fett has some detailed drawings for the scope rings/mounts that might be useful if you want to make your own.
Alan
that one looks just like the one i got.
Its a NC STAR 4X20 AIR RIFLE SCOPE and goes for about 15.- to 20.-
Gday fellas,
look what this lil black duck found!!!
With the following adjustments Refer pic:
A: cut back .5 inch to match ASI scope end.
B: cut at points to seperate rail holders/brackets and position in proper places.
Unfortunantly at C the scope switches and mount are around the wrong way but ill settle on that!!!
For those the model and make is a Zodiac 4x20 and it is made in Japan picked it up at a local gun shop here in Oz.
Cheers,
Al
I recently bought an ASI 4x20 on e-bay(for £20 !!) ,its clearly marked as such but compared to wizard of lights plans it differs very slightly ,Does anyone know of variants of this scope ,it also has the same brackets as boba als in the pic above.
If anyone can let me know how ,i will post a pic ,sorry new here !! Aha think i got it !
Last edited by TANGO'D FETT; 09-21-2006 at 04:22 PM.
Hello,
Congrats on the score! As for the drawings one thing to consider is that the drawings were done strickly by reverse engineering from photos and a few dimensions that folks sent me. I have never actually held a real scope in my hands. So I am not surprised that the drawings are a bit off. If you tell me what's off I will more than happy to update the drawings.
Alan
Hi Alan :thumbup , I also have a resin cast from an ASI that i got from sidewinder, your measurements are pretty close to this ,accounting for the normal reduction in casting, so i was wondering if there were two types of ASI 4x20. In particular mine is slightly longer die to the rear lens housing and the plastic covers that go over the addjustment screws are slightly different to as are the scope rings ,which i was hoping to modify to look like the actual ones . Does anyone else have one like this ?
On another note ,big respect to you for all your plans ,its an amazing and extremely helpful contribution you make for all us guys :thumbup if you ever need any measurements I would be very happy to help I Have -real sterling L2A3 ,visible V8 engine kit ,hengstler ,M38 scope etc etc !
keep up the good work
From my research I have found a number of variation in the scopes that are available. Weather they are all ASI scope is debatable as a number of manufactures sold similar scopes with minor changes, I suppose that it is even possible that they were all made by the same manufacturer and just distributed under a variety of brand names. Items like mounts and adjustment screw covers are the easiest to change and swap out or simple get lost and replaced.
The one referenced in your post above is a variation which is very close and can be made to look nearly identical to the screen use version, good find.
Personally I am going for the Fett look. I can't afford to purchase ever identical real piece of hardware so I'm stuck with scratch building. I bought a crossman scope that has the correct scope mounts but only has one end bell. I'll have to cast up a replacement.
Thanks for the compliment on the drawings. They have been a ball to create and I have met a lot of great folks in the process.
Alan
P.S. I might have to take you up on the reference dimensions.
Hi Alan :thumbup , I also have a resin cast from an ASI that i got from sidewinder, your measurements are pretty close to this ,accounting for the normal reduction in casting, so i was wondering if there were two types of ASI 4x20. In particular mine is slightly longer die to the rear lens housing and the plastic covers that go over the addjustment screws are slightly different to as are the scope rings ,which i was hoping to modify to look like the actual ones . Does anyone else have one like this ?
On another note ,big respect to you for all your plans ,its an amazing and extremely helpful contribution you make for all us guys :thumbup if you ever need any measurements I would be very happy to help I Have -real sterling L2A3 ,visible V8 engine kit ,hengstler ,M38 scope etc etc !
keep up the good work
Last edited by wizardofflight; 10-03-2006 at 10:17 AM.
Cool thanks for the info , i was planning to modify the screw covers & mounts so I will be scouring your plans forthwith .
I bought some digital verniers recently so it would be a pleasure to help & I do a bit of casting myself ,so if i can help with any parts dont hesitate to drop me a line , you deserve some freebie's :o)
for a quicker response try steverogers@blueyonder.co.uk
steve
Did anyone ever found out what ASI Stands for and
where was it made?
I just put in "ASI scope 4x20" in google to find out. I clicked "I'm feeling lucky" and it took me here
I don't know if i fought anyone here over this scope i found on ebay.. so if i did. well. thanks for the good fight.
Anyway.. Eventhough it is not an ASI scope i think that this is a darn good runner up for the "most accurate" award.
it is a 4x20 scope from Sussex Armoury and the more i look and compare the pics to the scope i have the luckyier i feel. Anyway.. here are the pics. I have Sidewinders resin scope from his kit to compare.
The total length of the scope i 11 inches. It would be intresting to compare it to the actual prop.
There were more than a few manufacturers back when these scopes were made and they look identical. I belive, if memory serves correct, that the ASI 4x20 is the more readily available and sure bet of getting the "correct" scope. The other renditions of it are just as accurate.
About the only difference I see on your score is the tips of the scope knobs are a bit more tapered.....
Nice score
Good find. Re length, don't forget that the eyepiece bell screws in/out for focusing and can drastically alter the overall length.
SAS
Good point.. i'd forgotten about that..
ooh, that's a nice one! sussex, eh... there's another saved ebay search!
inspired by this i went poking around on ebay. while i didn't get anything nearly as cool as that, i found a random 4x15 scope with nice looking rings.
the scope rings on my tasco 4x20 have always been my #1 complaint... taper on the knobs, angle of the taper on the ends... those are fairly subtle. the rings are just all wrong.
so for $20 i got new ones, and i'm much happier! i still have to weather them to match the gun, but here they are:
while still a bit too stubby... a $9 tasco scope and a $20 vintage scope combined form a decent looking thing for cheap.
there's an ebay store, big daddy scopes, that has a bunch of vintage stuff... might be worth watching for a good buy!
http://stores.ebay.com/Big-Daddy-Sco...QQftidZ2QQtZkm
(not an auction - a link to an ebay store)
Nice Brian! Thanks for the info.
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