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    Jan 7, 2004, 7:46 PM - Merged: ESB Fett blaster question..../Scope Mount Thread #1

    Have been working on this all metal HS Fett rifle for a while and was comparing it to the few pics we have. I know, its a work in progress. Still don't have my plastic rods or split plugs attached. I've got a question....is the end clamp (closest to the MPP) actually clamped to the MPP?? My dimensions look off...like it needs to be moved down (I've currently got my clamp at the end of the webley). I wonder if thats how they kept the MPP in place.

    Before anyone asks...here's scoop on all the parts. The clamps are regular Home Depot screw clamps with heat shrink tubes covering the bands. The heat shrink tubes are used to cover soldered electrical connections...these are also available at home depot. The risers that the plug connectors are glued/attached to were hand built from sintra. The scope mounts to a standard dovetail scope rail (available from Brownells), obviously cut down.

    Let me know what you think...along with the question posed above. Thanks!!

    As always...thanks to Wackychimps pic hosting!!!!









    Here's a few close ups on the mounts...







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    Jan 7, 2004, 8:49 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #2

    Nice to see a few of these project emerging. Nice work so far... makes me want to re-do my clamping.

    I believe the clamp was on the Webley Barrel itseld as you have done. On a real Webley the tube (although snug) slides far down as well (at least the tube I had) Prhaps a stopper inside the barrel would help?
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    Jan 7, 2004, 9:09 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #3

    Hmmm....the more I look at the actual pic, the more I think that clamp is on the MPP. I hope some more people take a look at this.

    Yes, on a real webley, the MPP does slide in the barrel rather freely. I'm not quite sure what I will do when I get that one started. I did this one for my Halloween costume, which of course I did not finish in time.
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    Jan 7, 2004, 11:42 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #4

    If you really want to drive your eyeballs batty, check out all the pics in this thread: http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=1463&forum=5.

    In some of the pics, it looks like it's clamped to the MPP, but in a few others, I'd swear the spacing looks different from the front end of the gun, and it looks like there is Webley barrel under the clamp. Of course, I'm getting old now, and my eyes aren't as good as they once were.

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    Jan 8, 2004, 6:45 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #5

    Ya know man, when I first started reading your post I thought you might be nuts. Then again, this is something I have always had the same problem with. After looking around at quite a few pics I think you may actually be on to something. Your spacing is definitely off a little on yours but theres nowhere else for your clamps to go. If you look at the reference you can see that the length of the barrel does look like it should cut off right behind the clamp (overall size wise). The clamp itself looks like its built up to almost give the illusion that the barrel is longer and not just a clamp on the MPP.


    Theres an awful lot of room especially how far down the first clamp is.


    Either you hit the nail on the head or that Webley used in film had a longer barrel.

    Well, either way, absolutely great looking rifle nevertheless!
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    Jan 8, 2004, 7:29 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #6

    Upon further review, it is clamped to the MPP. Based on WPK's red line on the barrel in that pic, that is the length of the Webley barrel. There is a groove visible behind the clamp at the front of the scope whereas the clamp at the back of the scope is clearly on top of the Webley barrel. See how it's raised, but the bottom of the front clamp is kind of flush with the Webley barrel? If it were around the Webley, it would not be flush like that.
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    Jan 8, 2004, 3:22 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #7

    If you think about it, thats exactly how they got the MPP to stay in place. Its the first clamp that holds everything together. The second MPP clamp does just that, keeps a hold of the MPP.
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    Jan 8, 2004, 3:25 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #8

    Oooo....good call on the clamp holding it all together WPK!
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    Jan 8, 2004, 4:47 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #9

    Yep..thats the way I'm leaning as well. As was stated above, the clamp on the MPP end is not raised from the Webley barrel at all; it is flush with the Webley barrel which means it must be on the MPP. I'll make some adjustments and post pics. Thanks for the input guys....
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    Jan 8, 2004, 5:11 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #10

    COOL man, awaiting pics!!
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    Jan 9, 2004, 5:36 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #11

    thats a GREAT looking blaster...one question reguarding the hose clamp heat shrink method: did you use shrink tubing that was slightly larger than the clamp and then applied heat, or did you simply just find a piece that just fit snug over the clamp?
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    Jan 9, 2004, 6:45 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #12

    I found some that just slid over the clamp...no heat. I'll try to get some updated pics up tomorrow.
    Thanks
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    Jan 9, 2004, 7:40 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #13

    thanks
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    Jan 9, 2004, 11:59 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #14

    Okay guys....adding more fuel to the fire. I was making a call on one of my customers today and they had an old piece of equipment from Europe. I saw some familiar clamps...take a look....



    Here is the webpage....

    http://www.norma.co.uk/Englisch/produkte/31.htm

    Apparently these come in various widths...looks like for our barrel size, the width would have to be 20mm. Do you think thats too wide?? The hose clamps on my rifle are about 15mm wide.

    Oh yes...here are the updated pics....





    I think its pretty obvious now that the clamp is indeed on the MPP. It still needs to be adjusted, but the back edge of my scope is now a LOT closer to the line on the Webley where the barrel meets the main housing, which is where it should be.

    One note about mine...it looks as though the hole bored in my HS blaster is not parallel with the gun. You can definately see that my MPP tube points a little up. Not sure what I can do about that.....I will think of something I'm sure. Well, more comments please....
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    Jan 10, 2004, 12:13 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #15

    wow - looking good! Perhaps if we find that the clamps are accurate enough we can do a bulk order? I had to do too much modification on the clamps I have.

    the discrepancies in the barrel could be corrected with a sanding drum on a dremel. Usually it's just a small bump that throws off everything.. I hope
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    Jan 10, 2004, 12:21 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #16

    Thanks bud....I'll take a look at it when I have time. I know I'll figure something out. I am definately extremely happy with it otherwise. You did a great job!!!
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    Jan 10, 2004, 12:22 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #17

    WOW!!!! I believe we have a winner! The accuracy level just jumped a bit.

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    Jan 10, 2004, 9:04 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #18

    Just thought I'd throw up some pics of how I made the mounts in case anyone is interested.







    Hope this helps someone....of course now I may need to change them since finding these new clamps. It does look as though the originals were indeed wider than mine. Maybe the 20mm will work out......

    Not to nit pick my own stuff, but it also looks like I need to switch my dovetail out for the tall version as mine looks a little short. Again, would love to hear some feedback on this.....

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    Jan 10, 2004, 9:32 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #19

    Okay...it also looks like there are little holes drilled in the electrical connectors too!!! Accuracy sure is a pain in the butt, but so worth it!
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    Jan 10, 2004, 10:43 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #20

    AWESOME!
    You did a Great job and it looks to be one of the best ESB blasters we've ever seen.

    Thanks for the pics on how you made the clamps also. It will be very helpful when we start making our blaster pretty soon.
    Once again Great job.

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    Jan 10, 2004, 1:22 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #21

    bobasfett,when checking out the bandwidth of the clamp website the 20mm version has the most order numbers...which one do we need to get? Maybe we could get a bulk order to save some cash?? Just an idea,but these are what we've been looking for.

    Your rifle has motivated me to get cracking on mine.....

    Steve
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    Jan 10, 2004, 2:14 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #22

    I am going to try to get a few to try out and post pics....that way we can narrow down the ones which are correct. The MPP is 1.5" diameter, which is about 38mm. But, it looks in some of the pics that the front clamp is stretched out a bit as well, meaning maybe it was a smaller diameter clamp. The rear clamp looks to be about 48mm.

    Here is a pic to understand what I'm talking about on the front clamp. I've got a better one, but its too large to post using the pic server. It is in the other thread referenced above. Either way, a bulk order would be best, although this company is in England...and TDHers over there that might help would be appreciated.

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    Jan 10, 2004, 8:17 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #23

    Sounds great.A bulk order got us all the awesome plug connectors from UK,so maybe this could be of similar ends. I know I'll need two

    Steve
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    Jan 10, 2004, 8:33 PM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #24

    Looks like there is something different going on the rear clamp.



    Also doesn't look like they included the screw on the front clamp mount. In fact, I don't I even see a hole for a screw.



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    Jan 11, 2004, 10:59 AM - Merged: Re: ESB Fett blaster question.... #25

    I hope more people chime in here.....Im not 100% sure that the clamps even have a screw or bolt. I believe there was a consensus that the second pic you posted was edited to remove the background and that they may have deleted some of the clamp. ????

    I think it was also decided that there was some sort of screw clamping assembly. Again, I'm really not sure....it stinks we don't have better pics of this blaster.

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