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    NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Well guys, here is my first attempt at a Fett pouch. Personally, I am stoked. Version 1 pouch patterns will be adjusted slightly, one change will be to make the cover flap longer. The one pictured is a bit short.

    The pouches will be functional. Not that there is any need for it (since we have giant pouches all over our costume), but because I can do it. As you see, these babies are not coming apart. Body and flap are cemented and riveted. The belt loop is a separate piece and also riveted on.

    Will adjust pattern and make a master with rivet holes located. Hope to start production soon.

    So, what do you guys think?!!!

    All input / sugestions welcomed and encouraged.
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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Looks great BooBoo, keep it up!

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    Those look great! I'll be watching this thread closely. Will the entire belt be leather? Nice work, brother!

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    Looks sweet. Love the belt loop....Functionality a bonus as well....

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Quote Originally Posted by Firespray Pilot View Post
    Those look great! I'll be watching this thread closely. Will the entire belt be leather? Nice work, brother!
    Yes in deed. All leather, my brother.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    I love the idea of the functionality. Any idea of how much you'll be charging? I think I'll be one of the first in line.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Quote Originally Posted by dsonik1 View Post
    I love the idea of the functionality. Any idea of how much you'll be charging? I think I'll be one of the first in line.
    That part I haven't worked out yet. They are more costly to produce than the Taco belt we are all used to, and more labor intensive. But, I am definitely going to try to keep the price as low as possible.

    I will say this, I've had a lot of fun getting this going. I think I have developed a fairly fast method of production. I think.

    Also, I will most likely give the first completed sample to Nathan for feedback and, hopefully, a ya-verily. I have really come to respect that man as an individual, and for his amazing talents.

    Will keep you all updated.
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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Bump for the day crowed. Hey, it's a showoff thread...right

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    ya brother, these look fantastic! glad to see someone taking the torch from the Taco man! will be watching closely as well...may have to be in line for one as well...

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Boo Boo, have you thought about adding these stitches to your pouches? Art pointed this out a little bit ago.


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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Thanks Takemetoyourfett for pointing this out. This particular stitching escaped me in my research.

    However, this opens up a whole new discussion about my belts. As I understand it, the original belts were constructed of Vinyl, spray painted brown, and the pouches were not functional. These two facts alone unceremoniously eject my belts from the realm of screen accurate. My belt and pouches are dyed leather, and the pouches are functional. Furthermore, the belt loop of my current pouch is not integral, as is the original. The loop is a third piece of leather riveted to the body of the pouch.

    As of this moment, the construction of my belt is as follows:

    1. belt: I had originally used pre-cut 2.5" wide leather straps. My new version will be hand cut strap from 5/6 oz sides. Edges are beveled and burnished. Holes punched. Strap dyed. Velcro, stitching and grommets applied.

    2. pouches: three piece construction cut from 4/5 oz sides (body, flap and loop). Flap edges are beveled and burnished. Rivet holes punched in all pieces then dyed. Stitching applied. Pouch assembled with cement and rivets. The stitching that you (Takemetoyourfett) mentioned might be added. But care must be taken to ensure the stitch line is not too close to a fold line.

    No doubt they are going to look great. But "screen accurate"...not really. All this said, will anyone want to buy these?

    I really welcome your comments and suggestions, brothers.

    Cheers!
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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Bump for you late nighters.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Even though it's not a 100% accurate with the belt being leather, the stitching would at least be a nice touch. Leather is so much better than Vinyl anyway. If you want we can just call it Pleather
    Art Andrews is to take credit for the stitching, I was just reminding.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Quote Originally Posted by Takemetoyourfett View Post
    Even though it's not a 100% accurate with the belt being leather, the stitching would at least be a nice touch. Leather is so much better than Vinyl anyway. If you want we can just call it Pleather
    Art Andrews is to take credit for the stitching, I was just reminding.
    Well, I thank you both. I'm real excited about getting these moving. I hope they are well received.

    My next ventures will be flight suits and vest!


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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    I'll definetely be "on board" for one of these for a couple o reasons. I really want screen accuracy, but on the other hand, I want my suit to be "believable". I want people to look at my suit and say, "That could be real, that could really work." or " Man, that guys suit is really realistic." (Notice how I never refer to my Fett as a "costume", but rather, a "suit"?) I think having a functional belt lends itself to that really well.
    It's an unfortunate fact that what works/looks good on screen, most times does not do the same in person . Aside from having 3 kids that WILL break anything that can be broken by merely using telekinesis (lol), the realism aspect was a big factor in me going with Jeff's armor (luckily, I get both, due to his talent and attention to detail).
    The devil is in the details, and I think with proper weathering you'll see more compliments than quibbling. Just my .02

    That said, I can't wait for the chance to integrate this bit of realism into my suit. Sorry if I've taken up too much bandwidth with my synopsis.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    We're thinking on the same lines

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    I would definitely be down for one! I have a 99 cent tacos belt right now, and love it, but functionality is the one thing I said I would really want out of it.
    And now... I will get it muwhahaha

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    Looking good. Looking real good.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Bumping again. Any comment / suggestions are welcomed and encouraged. My goal is to produce the highest quality possible. You guys deserve it!

    Question: Is Velcro the hands down preferred method of closure for the belt (apart from being screen accurate) ?

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Hey Boo Boo, back to accurate detail found this while looking thru the MOM gallery. It shows lacing on the back of the belt.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    [QUOTE=Takemetoyourfett;470651]Hey Boo Boo, back to accurate detail found this while looking thru the MOM gallery. It shows lacing on the back of the belt.

    I've seen this before. I also noticed the absence of grommets. I wonder if this belt was part of stunt wardrobe, or if it was thrown together for the exhibits? Hmmm.

    I have thought about lacing as a closure method.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Keep up the good work. I'd be interested in a "functional" belt as well. Grommets or lacing.....don't really care.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Quote Originally Posted by BooBoo Fett View Post
    Bumping again. Any comment / suggestions are welcomed and encouraged. My goal is to produce the highest quality possible. You guys deserve it!

    Question: Is Velcro the hands down preferred method of closure for the belt (apart from being screen accurate) ?
    What about inserting a thin metal on one side and magnet on the other side. You know, like a woman's wallet/handbag.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Quote Originally Posted by carves View Post
    What about inserting a thin metal on one side and magnet on the other side. You know, like a woman's wallet/handbag.

    Oooh, good idea!

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    I am working on what I hope to be the final prototype of the pouch now.

    I don't want to give anything away just yet. I am ahead of you guys on the pouch closure . Magnets were my first thought, but add a bit of complexity and more cost. I've come up with something that should work very well.

    The new pouch should be ready for your comments in an hour or so. Get ready boys and girls. Your gonna like them! I hope.


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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    bristling w/ anticipation......

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    As promised, here it is...

    1. The stitching pointed out by Takemetoyourfett & Art Andrews (thanks for the suggestion) has been added to the top only. It will be present on the bottom for production.

    2. The profile has been modified to have the rounded look of the original pouches.

    3. Closure via Velcro. The loop side is "countersunk" into the body of the pouch allowing for a nice flat meeting of the flap and body.

    4. The ends of the belt loop is now secured inside the body of the pouch. This allows the to pouch to set flush against the belt, without the teetering effect the externally mounted loop caused.

    5. Yes the rivets are intentionally turned around. They are less conspicuous this way and have a completely flat profile.

    In the three wide photos are (left to right): pouch by previous maker, my first prototype and the current version.

    As I said before, these are cemented AND riveted. It is possible this ammo belt will outlast all the other items of your suit That's my hope anyway.

    So...what do you all think?!!!!!!!
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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    WOW, just wow! Those look really sturdy, on top of having nice aesthetics. My name better be first on the list. lol

    Cant wait to see these in person.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Bump for the late afternoon crowd. See update above. (Today, 01:21 PM)

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    Will you make nonfunctional ones for a lesser price for those who aren't planning to keep change for the slot machines in them?

    The only thing I would say is that I'd like to see the belt be more of a chocolate brown with a little bit of red tint to it instead of the toffee color. My Taco belt came in the toffee color and I didn't the color was close at all to the real deal. Picked up some leather oil and darker polish today, but of course that tints the thread somewhat.

    Would be interested in another belt when yours is perfected.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Quote Originally Posted by Slave I View Post
    Will you make nonfunctional ones for a lesser price for those who aren't planning to keep change for the slot machines in them?

    The only thing I would say is that I'd like to see the belt be more of a chocolate brown with a little bit of red tint to it instead of the toffee color. My Taco belt came in the toffee color and I didn't the color was close at all to the real deal. Picked up some leather oil and darker polish today, but of course that tints the thread somewhat.

    Would be interested in another belt when yours is perfected.
    Thanks for the input, bro. Color has been a challenge. I'll be off to Tandy with prints of the original belt tomorrow to sample other dyes, again.

    To answer your question, I have a Taco belt I am not going to use. I'll sell that . I'm really not interested in making non-functional pouches at this time. Cost wise, I have seen leather belts with non-functional pouches go from $150 - $200. Last year I saw someone selling a belt with functional pouches for $275 (sorry, I can't remember his name). I was thinking of pricing mine at around $210. I don't know if folks are going to find that outrageous, but to tell you the truth, I think that's a reasonable price considering the amount of labor involved.

    And to repeat myself again: these belts are obviously not screen accurate However, I am trying hard to get them as close to screen "look" as possible. Hopefully I will find a good color dye tomorrow.

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Lookin Good!

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Price sounds reasonable...

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    Re: NEW BELT MAKER'S FIRST FETT POUCH

    Gentlemen. I started a new thread to try and get some help with colors. Please check it out. Thanks !!!


    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f20/booboo-fett-ammo-belts-color-chase-35003/

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