Nemrod holster? let's discuss

I know this has been talked about before, but I really want to make sure that this Nemrod holster is what was really used on screen.

The holster that I just recieved has the small pocket for the knife.

On all images I have seen of the ESB holster, I have not seen that small pocket.

I tried to get the same type of lighting on this and if it were to have the pocket then there will be more the the area hightlighted. But no line or anything.

what ya think?

Mr Bespin guy dude doesnt have the front pocket eathier.

So is it just me, or do you guys see it too?

ok - one more and I'll shut up. It does look like it has the small loop for the knife, but no pocket. Maybe this screen version has a longer knife. Check out the bespin dude on the earlier images, it looks like he has some type of area where the end of the knife rests.

Here's another pic of ESB Fett

I don't see it.
Perhaps there was a different Nemrod holster available at that time that didn't have the knife option.

Or they just modified the Nemrod and casted ones used for the film. But that wouldn't make sense if they modified it. Went to that trouble of getting rid of it. But still left the Nemrod logo on the side.

Looks to me like the knife holder is there. Who knows if these holsters were molded and copied from an original nemrod or if they were all originals?

Doh, Danielle beat me to it.

Do yo mean the small loop on top or the actual slide area where it goes into?

It almost looks like they built over the logo to cover it up causing a slight bulge. That would explain why it flares outward as you work your way down the holster.

But I'm not sure I see any place to put a knife.

Originally Posted by Bountyone

I agree with Gonzo Fett, why would they even bother removing the pocket and keep the logo? I know where going for accuracy here but if we can't see if it's there or not, does it really matter?. I have an MLC holster with the pocket.

It matters to me. I have waited a long time to get my Fett right. And I'll continue to wait till I'm happy with it.

I have already paid over 300 dollars on my ESB holster Fiberglass and all. I dont want spend more on it.

I wanna get it right. I'm trying not to do any upgrades in the future. But I know I will.

Side by side they look like they might even be different holsters.
The portion of the holster that lines the barrel of the gun is a completely different shape. If it is the same one, they definately trimmed part of it out. Namely the knife holder.

Originally Posted by SEEKER

ok - one more and I'll shut up. It does look like it has the small loop for the knife, but no pocket. Maybe this screen version has a longer knife. Check out the bespin dude on the earlier images, it looks like he has some type of area where the end of the knife rests.

Here's another pic of ESB Fett

anyone else notice the right Gauntlet coming apart in this photo?????

Yeah - it's starting to look like they slice it off. This stuff is prett easy to cut with a blade. theres a solid wall inside the pocket, so it would be pretty easy to do.

I just need to reaffirm that this is was done in 1979

HAHAH yea its the left gauntlet on the right side of the screen cap good eye!

I still disagree that this is the correct blaster. There is a nemrod that ended on the 23rd that has a more clsoely looking handle. I would say judging by the length of the barrel tip that they cut the holsters shorter and removed the knife sheath. It also looks like they removed part of the clip or put some type of button where the hole was.

Unless you get access to the archives I guess we'll only be able to speculate.


Bummer.

Originally Posted by SEEKER

It matters to me. I have waited a long time to get my Fett right. And I'll continue to wait till I'm happy with it.

I have already paid over 300 dollars on my ESB holster Fiberglass and all. I dont want spend more on it.

I wanna get it right. I'm trying not to do any upgrades in the future. But I know I will.

$300 . I wouldn't let a knife pocket hold me back from completing my costume but that's me. after looking at the close up photos, it looks to me like it is NOT there but I'm not about to cut it off at this point.

Were talking about the holster, not the blaster.

The blaster is another story.

Originally Posted by firstsonofsolo

HAHAH yea its the left gauntlet on the right side of the screen cap good eye!

I still disagree that this is the correct blaster. There is a nemrod that ended on the 23rd that has a more clsoely looking handle. I would say judging by the length of the barrel tip that they cut the holsters shorter and removed the knife sheath. It also looks like they removed part of the clip or put some type of button where the hole was.

Same holster in the auction but I will wait till we hash out the blaster then.....

looks like it was cut off.

i have another question not quite realted to the topic, but looking at those clear pictures, i noticed that the rifle scope is mounted the wrong way, i saw that in a bunch of esb photos already, any input why that is? shouldn't Boba Fett know better??

Originally Posted by volkerc

looks like it was cut off.

i have another question not quite realted to the topic, but looking at those clear pictures, i noticed that the rifle scope is mounted the wrong way, i saw that in a bunch of esb photos already, any input why that is? shouldn't Boba Fett know better??

Yeah the flash tube was inserted two different ways for the ESB rifle. In some images you could see those little wired things in the inside and some it's all hollow. Personally, I like the hollow look.

Ok back to the topic. anyone else with ideas, images, high rez images, clearere images, etc....

Let's get it right before I slice this front pocket.

In my opinion the knife part looks like it was cut off. That is a great find man! And good eye Bountyone on catching that guant I just have to ask, did you try the spear gun out?

well, as far as I can see, the knife sheath isn't there.... But I simply can't see them slicing it off for the movie. They wouldn't bother. I think we just have the wrong holster. Honestly, I would stick with what you have for now and not mod it, until we find the right one. Keep in mind that it is likely that the holsters weren't made by nemrod, but made for them by someone else, so it is possible that the basic holster design was used for a number of companies.

I am convinced it is a Nemrod holster due to the triangle type logo you can see on the ESB image in Turo's first post.
But check out all these Nemrod spear guns from a Nemrod catalog from the 70's

Isn't is possible they used a different model holster than the one we are thinking?
Just seems unlikely that ALL of them would have the knife holder option. Or even a later model from the late 60's?

All I know is someone here is beating me on my nemrod on evilbay grrrr......^_~ grats if you beat me on it.


C'est la vie I will wait til the Nemrod talk slows a bit and the competition on one lessens.....


As for the holster, that is a good point Gonzo, they could have used a different holster with the nemrod in question, but without seeing them we are at a loss on knowing if that is the case.


Alexis
*smiles*

Is it possible they cast an original nemrod hoster, made a few adjustments and then made more copies for Boba and the bespin guys such as removing the logo etc? Nice find Turo

Just found this, I think the type you have Turo is the Nemrod Clipper correct? This is a Nemrod Corsario which I think closely resembles the grip of the ESB sidearm? I still think the holster is correct

Originally Posted by HeadlessHunter

Just found this, I think the type you have Turo is the Nemrod Clipper correct? This is a Nemrod Corsario which I think closely resembles the grip of the ESB sidearm? I still think the holster is correct

that is what im thinking. i have both of these spearguns and plan on doing a combo of the corsario grip/gun with the clipper holster. i may fill in the knife slot or look at it closer about shaving it out.

I personally think it is the 6th one down.....

There is no doubt in my mind that if they used this holster they had to have removed the knife pocket. The only other alternative is that there is an other yet undiscovered holster out there.

I have spend literally hundreds of hours studying pictures for the purposes of reverse engineering props and models. One main issue to consider pictures can be very deceptive, as it was pointed out, the holster in the studio picture looks to be a little longer. What is more like the case is that the picture has been for lack of a better word been "stretched". This can be cause by number of things, from the type of lenses used to do the filming to as simple as someone playing with aspect ratio of the picture.

At this point in time I find it hard to belief that there is an other holster out there, someone would have discovered it by now. Plus the fact that manufactures hate to reinvest in tooling to recreate an item when they already have tooling for a viable product.

As for the question why didn't they remove the logo? Why bother? On screen no one would ever know what it is, it is those of us that are trying to recreate it that would ever notice and now lets be honest the filmmakers could care less about us.

Film making is all about the art of illusion. They don't need to have things perfect, if you can't see the left side of something in the film then don't spend the money building it etc...

From everything that I have seen this is the correct holster with the knife sheathe removed. Just my two cents worth.

Alan

While the Nemrod holster could very well be the correct base holster for the screen used holster(s)… I just find it hard to believe that they would have gone to the trouble of removing the knife sheath/compartment… but not remove the logo? Something just doesn’t make sense to me.

There are countless props and parts used in the SW trilogy that have not been identified and I’m still holding onto the hope that just maybe there is another “off-the-shelf” holster without the knife sheath that we have not seen yet.

I think that the knife sheath/compartment wasn't removed. Please see this composite:



(Press on the pic for see it at full resolution)

What do you think Turo (& all)?

I really dont see the insert/slot for the knife.

Maybe it's an earlier version with just a small loop on the bottom for the knife to rest.

Then later on, alot of divers where complaining that they were gettin cut by the end of the blade, and made a whole small pouch for the knife and still has the small loop for the top of the handle.

So hav you cut it off yet?

No way! Once I have confirmation that the pocket doesn't exist, I'm making myself a leather holster.

Arturo...will you be making extras to sell?

Sure - that's if you guys like em.

Cool Arturo!

there is another one of those nemrod holsters on ebay, i'm sure you guys know what to type in to find it.

You want 100% accurate.... and you will make a leather holster ??? I dont get it... but well, if you like it...

Originally Posted by SEEKER

No way! Once I have confirmation that the pocket doesn't exist, I'm making myself a leather holster.

cool thread...never saw this one...

Help!? O.M.G.! they did cutoff the knife pocket on the holster pictured.

Originally Posted by volkerc

Help!? O.M.G.! they did cutoff the knife pocket on the holster pictured.

Yeah...i think we are making allot of this stuff harder than it has to be..

ALL in favor of a modified/cut Nemrod Holster??? " I !! "

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Yeah...i think we are making allot of this stuff harder than it has to be..

ALL in favor of a modified/cut Nemrod Holster??? " I !! "

Whoa!

WOAH!!!! BINGO!!

I knew it!!

Thanks Spidey! I'm pretty sure they did the same thing for Boba holsters.

It just never made sense that we couldn't see that freakin line for the pocket.

awesomeness.

Pocket will be sliced off!!

thanks!

It just didn't make sense to have the pocket there since it was suppose to be a holster for the movie. The knife pocket would have made it bulky for the wearer.

Ta Dah... Alex to the rescue! :thumbup
*Logs on ebay*

I think the price of a nemrod holster just doubled!!!

thanx for the pic Spidey!!!!! We can finally put this part to rest!!

D

So Turo, do you want to have a "slicing" party at Acme next month?

My holster should be delivered by then .

-Mark

Let's do it!

Bring your best utility knife. And the best wet sanding paper.

Originally Posted by Boba Phett

So Turo, do you want to have a "slicing" party at Acme next month?

My holster should be delivered by then .

-Mark

Congrats on the win!

I bid up till 150... but decided to get a MLC one till I get my whole costume done. then up grade to a real one.

but I normaly don't like to lose on Ebay

but $200+ can go towards completing my ESB suit.
I'm glad it went to a member.

Originally Posted by Boba Phett

So Turo, do you want to have a "slicing" party at Acme next month?

My holster should be delivered by then .

-Mark

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Yeah I think so to...however there was a question if Boba's was like this as well, and I would say yes to that also.

I will post what I have this evening.

Thanks for helping out as much as possible Alex.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Yeah I think so too...however there was a question if Boba's was like this as well, and I would say yes to that also.

I will post what I have this evening.

ohhhh! a new cropped image treat?

Nice!! thanks man!!

this reminds me of those star wars.com sneak peek images where they show something from the movie, but you need to figure where it was from.


looking forward to tonite.

Seems like LF they went to a lot of trouble just to have the small pocket taken off that really wouldn't show up on film very well anyway.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Yeah I think so too...however there was a question if Boba's was like this as well, and I would say yes to that also.

I will post what I have this evening.

did I miss the pic?

Originally Posted by volkerc

did I miss the pic?

Nope it has not yet been posted by Alex...

Originally Posted by Mojo-Fett

Nope it has not yet been posted by Alex...

oh good, i thought it came and went...

Alex! Alex! Alex! Alex!

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! ohhh! wrong movie sorry.

*Ping-Ping* calling Alex to the floor....

Maybe his house is like the island on "Lost" where the way he perceives time is different then us

Turo, you know if you make a leather holster, it won't be accurate since the real speargun holsters were rubber.

It confirms the holster but the gun still isn't the clipper

Originally Posted by HeadlessHunter

It confirms the holster but the gun still isn't the clipper

the gun has been discovered, and no it's not the clipper.

There is another feature, besides the knife pocket, on the holster that was modified. The bottom was cut open so the barrel could stick out. In most cases the divers who were using the holster for its intended purpose probably did this modification themsleves.

The holster I just got didn't have this modification done to it... yet.


-Mark

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Yeah I think so too...however there was a question if Boba's was like this as well, and I would say yes to that also.
I will post what I have this evening.

Any news on this Alex??

alex alex

sorry guys, got a tad busy with some paint commissions and getting ready for SDCC aswell...

will try and post something this weekend.

From a famous teacher.

"Try not, do, or do not, there is not try"

Originally Posted by SEEKER

From a famous teacher.

"Try not, do, or do not, there is not try"

...From a famous teacher.... THAT´s GREAT...

Seeker, you´ve made my day, I fell off my chair during laughing...



Back to topic: a really great thread and very interesting. I think, MLC has to modify his molds now

Is it just me, or does it look like the Bespin guard in the b/w image wet himself?

Nice pic—glad to have definite photo.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Hey Seeker....This might help...

SPECIAL THANKS to Ben Stevens at Official PIX for providing this shot.:thumbup

I think it goes to show that the Nemrod Holster was just cut and modified.

I just picked up mine! It was a steal at $35! One problem, the strap for the gun handle is broken. I think it should be easy enough to fix. Once I cut off the knife sheath, I can use that scrap to make a new strap, add a snap and rivet it on. For those of you that have this holster, how long is that strap? Measurements for both sides would be great since it comes off at an angle!

Turo,

I just missed you at ACME. I had a party ealrier on. Oh well.
I'm just sitting here slicing away though.


PHAT,
Nice score for $35. Good luck with the strap repair.

I went ahead and cut off the pocket, and opened up the bottom end. Still need to fix the strap (measurement?? anyone??) and it needs to be sanded a little smoother. So far the best smoothing has come from dry sanding with #320 -#800, and using some Novus plastic scratch remover.

-Ryan

Very nice.... BP
Has anyone with the holster thought about 'casting' these up for all ESB wannabes? these things are SO hard to come by!

Originally Posted by BOBA PHAT

I went ahead and cut off the pocket, and opened up the bottom end. Still need to fix the strap (measurement?? anyone??) and it needs to be sanded a little smoother. So far the best smoothing has come from dry sanding with #320 -#800, and using some Novus plastic scratch remover.

-Ryan

Great work BP... looks right to me..

Looking good PHAT. I've been working on sanding mine as well. A B&D mouse sander has been saving the elbow and wrist. Most of my time has been getting rid of the seam lines. I'm thinking about leaving a few scratches on the holster. It is ESB Fett afterall where nothing is very shiny or clean on the suit.

I could trace my strap and email it to you.

Thanks Dudes!

I'm going for a fairly matte finish with a few scratches. Nothing on Fett should be clean. Except his underwear!

Don't you have other stuff you should be working on dude???? J/k, it looks really great man!!
D

Ruffkintoy sells casts of the Holster. You could PM him to see about buying them.

I spoke to Mardon(MLC) about doing just that, he may but right now it would cost a bit to redo the mold.
I just decided to buy one and mod it myself.

Originally Posted by Mojo-Fett

Very nice.... BP
Has anyone with the holster thought about 'casting' these up for all ESB wannabes? these things are SO hard to come by!

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

Ruffkintoy sells casts of the Holster. You could PM him to see about buying them.

Ruffkin is what was used on the JB project.. very good alternative...was a fiberglass version nemrod holster.

I talked to Ruff at Motor City comic con and told him about the holster situation.

He said he would do it. I told him that I'll modified the one he sold me and rebuild the back and remove the pocket.

So as soon as i cut it off and fix the back and get it ready, I'll send it off to Ruff for him to start distributing new cast of them.

Turo

Originally Posted by SEEKER

I talked to Ruff at Motor City comic con and told him about the holster situation.

He said he would do it. I told him that I'll modified the one he sold me and rebuild the back and remove the pocket.

So as soon as i cut it off and fix the back and get it ready, I'll send it off to Ruff for him to start distributing new cast of them.

Turo

Yippee... thats what i'm talking about! 8)

Originally Posted by SEEKER

I talked to Ruff at Motor City comic con and told him about the holster situation.

He said he would do it. I told him that I'll modified the one he sold me and rebuild the back and remove the pocket.

So as soon as i cut it off and fix the back and get it ready, I'll send it off to Ruff for him to start distributing new cast of them.

Turo

AWESOME Turo!!..... Chuck is a great guy to work with....and he even does the leather straps, for an additional cost of course.

yep - I'm not sure if his mold was starting to go, but I couldn't get my blaster in there with out going in there smoothly.

so the inside of the holsters need to be widen.

I'll hook it up guys. it will be dead on. plus that leather strap.

We'll finally have the definete nemrod holster.

A huge group effort.

Originally Posted by Sixxgunn13

Awesome news Turo!

I just picked up a MLC holster.

EDIT,

got email from Mardon, he will see if he can create mine without the pocket as well... whoo hoo!!

i'll post pic once I receive it.

Yup, just talked to my worker & he said they could be done

Mardon (MLC)
mlcallanta@gmail.com

for those that still had doubts about the nemrod holster, and wanted to see the holster that came with the newly discovered(by ss) real used speargun ,( i remember a few wanted to see it) here is a pic:

Great pic Volkerc...

Oh dang, I saw a technisub speargun on ebay a couple of weeks ago, it wasnt the Pulce 40, but it had that exact holster.