Neck Seal Information

hey, please forgive me if this has already been mentioned or if i am mistaken, but when i was looking through the online reference pics i noticed on one of the pics what looked like two neck seals. One the color of the jumpsuit and the other is the color of the vest.
i'll try and post a pic, and once again please forgive me if i am mistaken or if this has been mentioned before.

here's a direct link to it instead, let me know what any of you think.
http://www.essat.cl/cdref/0001_0100/Boba_Fett_008.jpg

The neck seal is part of the vest. The piece you're seeing that's the same color as the jumpsuit is his hood thing (the name of this peice escapes me).

-Austin
BH-1116

Surprisingly, the neck seal is actually part of the jumpsuit, and not the vest. You can see it in Star Wars Chronicles. The whole outfit is layed out on the ground, and you can see the jumpsuit has the neck seal, and the vest doesn't have anything. Somebody's probably scanned it in somewhere on the web, too.

I could have sworn I saw a pic of the vest with the neck seal attached. Guess it's time to go look through the ref pics :p

-Austin
BH-1116

Here is a pic:

Thanks for clearing that up. it was really bugging me. i knew this was the best place to ask.

FettsBounty wrote:The neck seal is part of the vest. The piece you're seeing that's the same color as the jumpsuit is his hood thing (the name of this peice escapes me).

-Austin
BH-1116

It is called a Bala Clava and Green Pepper, from JoAnn's, has a pattern for one if you need it.

The vest and the neck seal are slightly different colors, the neck seal is almost white, while the vest has a slight grey hue to it. At least for thr ROTJ suit.

Prepro they both seem to be the same color grey (darker than ROTJ). I also wonder about the origins of the "pleated" look the neck seal has in some artwork and maybe even a photo (though I can't find one right now), as opposed to the "quilted" look we see in most photos. I am wondering if there were neck seals sewn in both styles, but used with different suits. I've seen the "pleated" look in most ESB artwork. (Again, not sure about ever seeing any photos of this).

I know the original jumpsuit had the pleated neckpiece sewn onto it, but I never liked the zipper to go all the way up the front like that. I prefer to put the neckpiece onto the armor vest itself, since it appears to be the same material, that way I can put the zipper in the back. Zipper remains hidden.

Are there any pictures of a movie Fett with a 'neckless' jumpsuit, or were they all all like that? Better yet, are there any pictures that show the front close-up?
Any thoughts or suggestions? Which is the preferred method?

It appears to me that the neckpiece in the movie (esb at any rate) is either part of the vest or a separate piece altogether. It may in fact be sewn to the jumpsuit as most fan-based ones are, but it definitely is not the same material.

I don't mind it up the front (better than up the rear hehe)
because the helmet, collar armor and fold of the neck will hide the zipper mostly. My RA jumpsuit had an extra small flap that cover the zipper very well.

Personally for my next suit I think I want the neck piece as a dickey or attached to the vest.

We'll see how Gotmaul's esb project takes shape...

PHil

All practicality aside, the neck seal is attached to the jumpsuit. Both the Chronicles pics and the MOM pics show the neck seal sewn to the jumpsuit. As far ESB is concerned, I'll have to check my photos again to see if there is a clear picture to support the "sewn to jumpsuit" neck seal, but believe it is also sewn to the jumpsuit for ESB.

As JP said, it is not the same material as the jumpsuit; it is the same material as the vest, only slightly lighter in color.

I'll post some photos tonight, Ninja.

That's sort of what I thought. I knew everyone seemed to agree that the neck was attached to the jumpsuit, but the problem is that most tailors simply extend the jumpsuit material into a neck piece, making it horribly off-color.

But Tyler's never steered me wrong, indeed in Tyler we trust

I hope this can be worked out in the growing esb jumpsuit movement

Thanks TD,
PHil

i suppose I could put the jumpsuit zipper in the BACK, that way the neckpiece seam would be nonexistent from the front.

Here is a pic of the neck seal from MOM...the neck seal closes in the front:



Pic from ESB

You can't have the neck seal close in front AND have it attached to the vest. Unless you are plastic-man or can dress yourself by snapping your fingers. The vest can't close all the way down the front like the neck does, or it will look very off.

LoL...

Which is precisely why you attach it to the jumpsuit. Plus, it gives you that extra snazzy "accurate" feeling.

Thanks, Tyler, I had never seen that pic before...THAT CLOSE. What cologne was he wearing? hehe...

Guess I'll rethink my next pattern. Pics forthcomng.

I think it was Eau Du Fett. All the rage in Paris this Winter.

Glad the photos helped!

I am definately all for the "attach the neckseal to the jumpsuit" thing.

The only time I possibly wouldn't is with a hood that has a neck seal that can tuck into the jumpsuit. (Like the screen-usd, but with the closure and stitching of the outer neck seal, not the hood neck). Thing is....I think even then that the altered hood neck would tuck in and sit right. A "dickie" is just going to get shifted all over the place. And no comments about how you aren't supposed to shift those in public, either.... I know you guys too well.

Not to get this thread too off topic, but did you just get away with saying "dickie shifting in public?"

Ok, I guess this may be a good time to comment on something else I noticed in that pic. Granted, I am very new at this, but did I notice a chinstrap inside the helmet? I don't remember reading any posts on this.

I got away with saying that you *shouldn't* make comments about dickie shifting in public.

The chinstrap's been discussed a little. I am not sure if it's attached to the hood or attached to the helmet, or if it starts on the helmet and attaches to the hood. The hood does seal around the inside of the helmet with velcro and some sort of strap. You can see it in the big picture book thingy that I can't think of the name of right now.

LisaFett wrote:
You can see it in the big picture book thingy that I can't think of the name of right now.

The Star Wars Chronicles.

Does anyone have one of these? I haven't seen any threads with regard to this subject. I've read positive reviews for pretty much everything RA has except this. Is this something most of you are creating? Is it worth $50?
-MM

I have one..The hood itself is cool cause it looks a lot like the real hood used underneath the helmet, but the neck part is'nt too great i think. It's too short + it hasnt got that "ribbed" look like Fett's neck piece has. The lines are just sewn in. I'm gonna modify mine, maybe fill it uf with some wool and make it a bit longer.
I could maybe post some pics of it tomorrow if you want.

-Mikeal

Thanks Micke
That's exactly the info I wanted to know. The ribbed neck part would be the most important part of the hood, as it is the only part visible with your helmet on, right? And it's short and not very accurate? Sounds kinda ****** for $50. Pics would be cool, but don't trouble yourself. I think you've already helped me make my decision.
-MM

as the topic states.i did a search on thr topic but came up with nothing.can anyone help?

There are five pleated sections on the neckpiece.

I just finished making one for a femalian Fett last Monday, and had to reduce it to four in order for it to fit her shorter neck.

I have no idea what value this is. I just wanted to say something.

Bobafettish. Any idea on the dimensions of the segments or the height of the seal?

Just to confirm, 6 segments = 5 lines of stitching, yes?

MMM. Everything you say has value, mate!

Cheers.

Si

Looking at some of the MoM pictures, is the neck material different than the vest? It looks a bit different in color.


So far, I understand the glove pads and armor vest to be the same material. The boot spats and jumpsuit are the same, although the spats are lighter in color. Is the neck the same as the jumpsuit, only lighter as well?

I'm gearing up to make my new TDH vest, but want to verify the neckseal color before I sew it to the jumpsuit...

Neckseal material is the vest material, again possibly the reverse side. And it is a lighter color than the vest.

NECKSEAL


VEST


They're the same.

::edited for misunderstanding::

Thanks for the info, mods!

HH, I use 3/4" widths for stitching both the shoulder lines, glove back lines and neck seal. It made sense that if Fett's attire was made with any kind of uniformity, that the seams might all be the same.

While we're on the subject of neckseals, I've never been able to determine whether the seal was folded-pleated, or just stitched with batting underneath.



Which cross-section is correct? 1 or 2?

#2 is correct, and I too came up with the 3/4" measurement.

There are 4 stiches across the neckseal! Making it 5 sections. There is one section that is slightly covered by the vest and armor.


Here is the proof:

http://www.essat.cl/cdref/0101_0200/Boba_Fett_117.jpg

BobaFettish wrote:
#2 is correct.

You mean I've been doing it the hard way (#1) all this time? Seven years worth of Fetting down the drain?

There is a minimum of five pleats based on the picture link below, but if you are not attaching yours to your jumpsuit (like the real suit), then you will probably need a sixth one to cover your whole neck.

http://200.72.163.179:8080/cdref/030...a_Fett_346.jpg

How tall is the collar? 4 stitches and Five segments
If the sections are .75" and theres 5 sections I come up with 3.75" high. would it be safe to say a 4.00" collar would work? Or should the collar be 4.50 inorder to extend past the vest and above the armor? It also looks as if there is a zipper of velcro closure on the collar in the front seen in (ESB)

Velcro closure in the front with a small hook at the top. Five 3/4" pleats equals 3-3/4". As for how much to add to the bottom (assuming you don't want it attached to the jumpsuit), that is you're choice.

Doh--did I mention how much I hate this costume? . . .

Hello to all from Maryland, been getting my ESB Fett suit together for a couple months now, And was wondering where can i get the material for the Neck seak and vest since they are the same. And what kind of material is it ?
thanks for any help Jason
Jason Moorhouse
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Recruiting Officer
Maryland Garrison 501st

What color is the ROTJ neck seal. Is it a different color than the vest. Also what color is the vest? The ROTJ jump suit is grey? Correct. Thanks

Very debatable!!!! the jumpsuit varies from grey to blue/grey. I believe it was blue/grey, faded and dirty.

I thought the ESB was the Blue grey. The ROTJ should be a lighter grey.

Looks like the ROTJ Art of Star Wars neckseal is a gray-white and the vest is a super-light tan
http://www.TK409.com/images/fett/nec...eference/1.jpg
http://www.TK409.com/images/fett/nec...eference/2.jpg

I'd say that the vest is a very soft gray/off-white (**** near white) that has been misted to give it that that tannish look. I was able to get mine to that shade by misting it with taupe spray paint (amoungst other colors).