MLC ESB Sidearm holster ***Final update 1/24/04****

Hand Schaub

Active Hunter

• Sep 9, 2003

• #21

seventhz777z wrote:
From looking at the original pics, it looks to me that the trigger guard on the holster has been cut back/off to reveal the trigger itself. This might have been done to get a better grip on the gun when pulling it out for a quick shot. Does anyone else notice this, or am I seeing things?

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I see what you are saying here. If the production team did indeed go through so much trouble - I would doubt. If left as is - the original holster really swallows the sidearm and I think it looks better cut.

 

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Well Paid Killer

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• Sep 10, 2003

• #22

Hand-Schaub wrote:

seventhz777z wrote:
From looking at the original pics, it looks to me that the trigger guard on the holster has been cut back/off to reveal the trigger itself. This might have been done to get a better grip on the gun when pulling it out for a quick shot. Does anyone else notice this, or am I seeing things?

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I see what you are saying here. If the production team did indeed go through so much trouble - I would doubt. If left as is - the original holster really swallows the sidearm and I think it looks better cut.

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I also see what your saying but if you look at the holster in the film pics it seems to be in its original form. It might be that the gun itself is a little small. Look at how much of the barrel comes down as well. The one thing we truly have to go on is the holster for the best reference and not the other way around. AND don't get me wrong here, I think Mardons work on this blaster is exceptional but it may have been better to have started out with the holster in hand to use for size reference as well.

 

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Bountys Hunted

Well-Known Hunter

• Sep 10, 2003

• #23

Well, what if we just scaled the holster down slightly?
Wouldn't that take care of the sizing issue?


Also, what's the consensus on the holster- slightly cut out for a quicker draw, showing more of the pistol, or just having it pretty much as it is?


Me, I'm thinking of slightly altering the holster to reveal more of the pistol, etc. I just want to show off the pistol more!!!



I'm just so easy to please these days...

 

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tk0000

Jr Hunter

• Sep 11, 2003

• #24

I would say re-do the blaster, man realy. That would be the bets bet. I would realy like to find an original holster as well someday.

 

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Bountys Hunted

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• Sep 11, 2003

• #25

The pistol is not small. I'm 5'10", 200lbs, I don't have small hands, and the grip is almost too big for me. Wait until the first batch has been received, (which should be any day now... ) and see what the reaction is.

Who knows if the holster we're using was a "dual-duty" holster? Used for a variety of spearguns, some of which may have a thicker diameter. ESB Fett's holster could very well have been modified ever so slightly. Or,perhaps the holster was modified for a quicker draw, whereas the functioning speargun holster user might not be so concerned w/ a speeddraw setup, but a more secure, underwater, don't lose it kind of setup...



It's the darn closest holster anyone's got, the best option for ESB Fett. Just wait and see what Mardon turns out w/ it...



take care all,

-Rex

 

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jeezycreezy

Active Hunter

• Sep 11, 2003

• #26

I'm gonna chime in here and agree that the holster should incontrovertibly be the starting point for the reasons listed above.

I think trimming the holster and/or scaling it is detrimental to the ultimate goal of screen accuracy.

So I say leave the holster as is and revamp the sidearm if needs be.

Don't get me wrong. It's a cool sidearm for those who are putting together a costume as it is no question. I think Mardon, as usual, did a bang up job. But as nice as it is, there are still a few areas on the sidearm that, in my opinion, could be improved upon.

Also, since it was scaled up from a Marmit sidearm (ie. one which wasn't necessarily scaled down correctly in the first place and so, frankly, most likely isn't to scale) it stands to reason that what Mardon came up with isn't the correct size.

Rex: If the grip is as big as you say it is, maybe only the barrel needs to be scaled up.

Cheers!
TJ

PS. I feel bad criticizing because Mardon and his middleman Rex are two of the nicest dudes I have ever shared PMs with. Sorry guys. No hard feelings I hope!

 

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Tyler Durden

Well-Known Hunter

• Sep 11, 2003

• #27

I've got to agree with keeping the holster as is. It is the closest thing to the real holster, if not the same holster, that you can get. I still have the Nemrod spear gun that came with Jeezy's holster, and it filled the holster almost exactly like the ESB side-arm does in the film. The spear gun/holster is pretty big!

Also, it may not be a matter of size, meaning girth, but rather length.

 

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Baddblood

Active Hunter

• Sep 11, 2003

• #28

Maybe enlongating the top half of the gun by %5...

 

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crisisfilms

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• Sep 11, 2003

• #29

Holding the gun in my hand as I say this, I think the gun is a perfect size. I never expected it to be this big and any bigger would not look right I dont think. I have VERY big hands and it fits in them with some room to spare. I'll try to get a good shot up of it in my hands.

 

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Seven

Well-Known Hunter

• Sep 25, 2003

• #30

Looking at the pictures some more, It still looks like the holster has been cut down. In the image of the back side of the holster there seems to be a slight lip under the trigger, and not the flat edge of the one that was found. Here is a picture of what I see, the Fett used one next to the one that was made...

 

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Well Paid Killer

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• Sep 25, 2003

• #31

I still see the same holster... I am sticking with the idea that it was not modified. Comparing it with your diagram seems to prove it even more that it was not cut. Well, in my opinion anyway...

 

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Seven

Well-Known Hunter

• Sep 25, 2003

• #32

Well it is a size/scaling issue. If the found holster is photographed in this same manor and scaled right next to each other, then match up the top and bottom and see where the gun and trigger guard line up. It would be a approximation only, but obvious differences will be noticed. Might be worth trying instead of going back to the drawing board on the blaster. IF the holster is unaltered, then the blaster would only need to be longer, not necessarily bigger.

 

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Well Paid Killer

Active Hunter

• Sep 26, 2003

• #33

seventhz777z wrote:
IF the holster is unaltered, then the blaster would only need to be longer, not necessarily bigger.

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I have to agree with you there! I received mine and it doesn't seem to be to small at all as far as the basic shape is concerned. Its actually a pretty good size in fact and an excellent replica! I do think if it was elongated some it would fit the holster in a more accurate way. One question though... How sure are we that this is the same exact holster used?? I am sure there are a veriety holsters for different sized spear guns correct?? Or is this the real deal hands down?? Why waiste anymore time on it if we are not absolutely certain that its the found part or not?

 

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crisisfilms

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• Sep 27, 2003

• #34

Well Paid Killer wrote:
One question though... How sure are we that this is the same exact holster used?? I am sure there are a veriety holsters for different sized spear guns correct?? Or is this the real deal hands down?? Why waiste anymore time on it if we are not absolutely certain that its the found part or not?

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That is a good point WPK, I say we do just a bit more research before we assume this is the exact holster used. I would hate to have to do all this work and end up with the wrong holster.

 

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Ruffkintoy

Active Hunter

• Dec 5, 2003

• #35

Just curious on the staus of these?

 

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mlcallanta

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• Dec 5, 2003

• #36

What a surprise....as I was about to update this.
I brought the holster out to my worker & we deliberated on what should be done....and we both ended up with molding the original holster and making a new prototype from the first pulled product.

We'll probably shave a bit here & there to make the blaster fit similar to the movie version, but we'll post pics for your approval before re-molding a new

Hope this is satisfactory to everyone concerned.

Mardon

 

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Ruffkintoy

Active Hunter

• Dec 5, 2003

• #37

I would like to get an unmodified one,or atleast not to modified as I am building my own blaster. Do you have an estimated price on these?

 

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TK1776

Active Hunter

• Dec 22, 2003

• #38

Does anyone know here I can get my hands on an ESB Fett rifle and also the pistol with holster? I can be reach at nicodemus13@webtv.net, Thanks!

TK-1776

 

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Tyler Durden

Well-Known Hunter

• Dec 22, 2003

• #39

 

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Well Paid Killer

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• Dec 23, 2003

• #40

Nice shots Tyler!!!

 

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