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    Jun 15, 2003, 7:55 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #26

    Sweet I would love to have one.
    ST
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    Jun 15, 2003, 8:28 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #27

    Well that picture has just sold me !! I'd LOVE to have one,and put my "Bespin" blaster to rest.

    Steve
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    Jun 15, 2003, 9:24 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #28

    Okay, wait a second, you're asking us if we would like to see your take on a holster too?

    Do you think we're retarded?

    I guess I can't speak for everyone, but, I'd certainly love to see a holster made to hold this blaster.

    As for the the blaster colour . . . I think we're all going to be painting them anyway, so, it doesn't really matter. However, if you make it the colour of the marmit blaster, might be a little nicer, in case some paint wears off in the holster.

    Just my thoughts anyway.

    Jer

    P.S. When you make my blaster (because I'm already in, I don't need to know anything more ) . . throw in my rangefinder and keyholes too! hehehe
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    Jun 15, 2003, 10:24 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #29

    Hey Mardon, great job!!!

    I agree with tylerdurden: I'd like to see the grip and nozzle based more on reference pictures of the actual thing than on a second generation small scale toy gun. But I'd still be interested in what you've done above.

    The trigger guard, or whatever it's called, seems slightly too big in relation to the gun to me.

    Any chance of seeing the bottom of the grip? Maybe from the top as well?


    As for holsters, YES! That would be fantastic!

    From what I have read here, the holster is thought to be a Nemrod speargun holster, something like this:





    Since these are used by divers, I doubt highly it would be leather. Don't rightly now what it'd be made of. Plastic?

    Cheers!
    TJ
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    Jun 15, 2003, 10:41 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #30

    damn, im doing a scratch built so i cant buy this baby. But it is beautiful, very nice job.
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    Jun 15, 2003, 11:37 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #31

    Wow....


    That looks frickin awesome!!!! How the hell did you do the buildup so quick? And is it styrene or what?




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    Jun 15, 2003, 12:40 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #32

    Thanks again guys!

    Okay, to answer some of your questions:

    Ego - yeah, thats what I thought on the gelcoat, thus the reason I asked. You're right, gelcoating something near its intended color would be beneficial againts scratches. In short, if your paint gets scratched, atleast it would show brown rather than a different color - question is, what would be the color of your primer?
    Even though we gelcoat it in Brown & you use a grey primer before painting it, wouldnt it show grey if it get scratched?
    Unless ofcourse if there's a brown primer....

    TJ - I understand your point, but even though the Marmit version is 1/6 scale, it is still better replicating a 3D model that you can hold rather than 'guestimating' 2D pics......which isnt even clear to begin with.

    I may have not explained it clearly, but the pics above posted by MaxP would still require bondo/filling by my worker in the grip area. The Marmit grip has a wave design & the 2 horizontal lines (the upper line is a frown) you see on the pics above are just the pinnacles of the wave/ridge line. Once thats bondoed, you would see the final shape which we will be posting pics of.
    No worries.....it will look good

    As for the holster.....my bad, thought it was made in leather. I'm not a diver & havent seen this before, sorry.
    Is that Nemrod speargun holster easily available?
    If you guys can find that, then I dont think I would need to replicate it.
    If its something hard, then it could probably be made out of Fiberglass....but you guys are the expert, so LMK.

    Mardon

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    Jun 15, 2003, 2:26 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #33

    Quote:
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    TJ - I understand your point, but even though the Marmit version is 1/6 scale, it is still better replicating a 3D model that you can hold rather than 'guestimating' 2D pics.....
    I getcha, and my concern was more with the nozzle than the grip.

    But like I said, I think you've done an amazing job and I'd happliy buy one As Is. Doubtless it will look even better when it's bondoed and all.

    Also, I'm blown away at what you can do with cardboard man. I can barely make a paper airplane. Wow!

    Quote:
    As for the holster.....my bad, thought it was made in leather.
    I'm not a diver & havent seen this before, sorry.
    Is that Nemrod speargun holster easily available?
    Nope. I don't even know if it's the real one, and your gun might not fit into it. Also it has a sheath type dealy for a diving knife which has to be removed. It'd be a good starting point.

    The one I posted is made from a nomex / rubber-type material. But I think whatever you made it from that the accuracy of the shape would be far more important that the material it's made from.

    Cheers!
    TJ
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    Jun 15, 2003, 3:24 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #34

    Hi TJ,

    Understood!
    In cases such as this, then I think it is safe to assume that we have to make the holster from available pics instead of a 3D version that I could hold......well, the Marmit holster is there, but if there are available pics such as the one you posted above, then that would help greatly in making it.

    However, the holster will be made out of FG....would this be okay for everyone? LMK

    One question: does anyone have an opinion if the trigger of the blaster goes inside the holster.....'coz the Marmit version shows the trigger exposed when the blaster is in the holster.
    I cant be sure from seeing those blurred pics.....

    Mardon

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    Jun 15, 2003, 3:41 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #35

    I could live with FG myself. I mean, it's made of a rigid rubber anyway, so it's not like it has to "flex" like a leather holster would.

    I think the trigger is partially exposed like on the Marmit. I think the major failing of the Marmit set-up is that not enough of the nozzle shows through the opening at the bottom.

    At least on mine and on this image.



    Which I liberated from here:

    http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=1374&forum=5



    I'm guessing the silver bit in the second picture is the trigger.

    Cheers!
    TJ
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    Jun 15, 2003, 5:37 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #36

    Hey that pic looks familiar! That's my Marmit blue screen technique (read photo behind the Marmit).

    I'd agree that the barrel seems much longer out of the holster on the real side-arm.

    Mardon, I am going to have respectfully disagree in going by the Marmit over reference photos. I understand from a construction standpoint that a 3-d model is, of course, ideal. However in following the Marmit, you are assuming that it is a screen-accurate piece. But in the end, the Marmit is just an action figure. While much of the blaster remains a mystery, we have some good shots of the real grip and nozzle.

    If someone could get ahold of the Nemrod holster, it would be a great starting point for scale (assuming it is close in scale to the real holster, which may very well be a Nemrod holster).

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    Jun 15, 2003, 7:02 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #37

    I got to say that the barrel on my Marmit gun sticks out of the holster almost as much as the one in the picture of the real gun. Looking at the picture of the Marmit gun I think that it could be pushed downe a bit further.
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    Jun 15, 2003, 11:13 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #38

    I never cease to be amazed at how much detail TDH has!



    However the ref. pics and Marmit pistol merge, I am just happier than heck that it's going to be happening!!!



    And Mardon, heck yes, I would enjoy a set of FG shin tools!!!



    take care all,

    -Rex
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    Jun 15, 2003, 11:19 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #39

    Tyler....do you have any clear/close-up pics of the barrel tip & grip?

    Not trying to say that the Marmit is the final word....but in the "absence of clear definitive pics", its the next best thing to go on.
    As for the Holster, I think the Nemrod design is the way to go.

    Mardon
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    Jun 16, 2003, 10:02 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #40

    Sweet lookin' update buddy,

    Only criticisms I can see . . . . at the base of the grip, it looks like on the original (not the marmit per se), there is a bit of a lip that goes around it.

    The only other thing is that (to me anyway), the back end of the gun doesn't look quite right. In the pics I've seen of the original, it almost looks more tubular (think as if you were holding the gun out in front of you to shoot, and you were looking from the back, towards the barrel) . . .

    Those are the only things that look a little off to me.

    But . . . I'm still quite positive this will be the closest thing we've ever seen!

    Jer
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    Jun 16, 2003, 10:33 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #41

    Hey Jer,

    Thanks for the critique buddy, appreciate it.

    The butt does have a lip...a slight one which you could see & feel, but I could always make it bigger. The pics dont really show the curvatures & other details most specially when the flash of the camera drowns it out. Naturally, the pinkish color hue of the bondo doesnt help much either.

    By "tubular", do you mean squarish/rectangular? Anyway, LMK & I'll look into it.

    thanks again buddy!

    Mardon
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    Jun 16, 2003, 10:58 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #42

    Lookin' real good Mardon! This is going to be an awesome piece when it's done!

    Here's my input, for what it's worth.



    Maybe square the butt end a little:





    The actual pistol has more flare to the bottom:





    And finally, you're right about the pictures of the nozzle. They suck.

    There's no way in the world I could express how I think it looks, so I drew my interpretation of it:



    The section with lines looks to me like...um...like a screw cap. If you know what I mean. Anyway, that's what it looks like to me based on crappy images. I could be way off myself. I dunno.

    Anyway, hope that helps!

    Cheers!
    TJ
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    Jun 16, 2003, 11:10 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #43

    And here's my graphical take on some changes I'd make (on top of the ones Jeezy threw in there . . . good eye)

    Mine however are not nearly as nicely rendered as Jeezy's.





    What's everyone think on that?

    Jer
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    Jun 16, 2003, 11:26 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 1* PICS! #44


    Ego wrote:

    Mine however are not nearly as nicely rendered as Jeezy's.

    What's everyone think on that?
    Yep! I see what you're saying and agree 100%.

    Cheers!
    TJ
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    Jun 16, 2003, 11:34 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #45

    Gotcha both!
    Will integrate the changes immediately

    Mardon
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    Jun 16, 2003, 12:19 PM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #46

    Good eyes you guys...Mardon is hitting the same points of debate I came up against while working on mine (but he's still closer to finishing than I am ).

    It's a real trick scaling the Marmit pistol and merging it with what we can sort of see on the limited reference pics...but he's got a firm grasp on it and is doing a great job. This is going to be one cool blaster!
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    Jun 17, 2003, 1:24 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #47

    I don't know if y'all have seen this..
    http://www.partsofsw.com/bespingun.htm

    It might help, it might not....
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    Jun 17, 2003, 1:50 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #48

    That Bespin blaster is a different gun bud. It was once thought to also be the Fett blaster, but the grips are totally different.

    That back end of the receiver looks similar though. We'll find the original someday, but for now scaling the Marmit is the best way to go I think.
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    Jun 17, 2003, 2:01 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #49

    WOW! I have NEVER seen a better example of what TDH is all about than in this project! Mardon, you're the Leader in this, of course, but the TEAMWORK you are commanding from your fellow TDHers, who have posted above, just gives me all those warm & fuzzy feelings, that make me PROUD to be a part of these boards! LONG LIVE TDH!
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    Jun 17, 2003, 5:39 AM - Re: MLC ESB Sidearm Blaster *UPDATE 2* BONDO PICS! #50

    Nahhh....I'm no leader, I'm just the worker :-)
    You guys know more about these than I ever could......

    I just wanted to think that each project we make would be a collaboration of great talents from this board - thus this is for everybody.
    ...and if we're successfull in creating it, then its the success of the group as a whole and not by any individual.

    I'm just glad to know that you guys joined me in the journey!

    Mardon

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