Jet Pack Draft Blueprints

**wizardofflight** · 03-16-2005, 02:57 AM

!!UPDATED!!

See post dated 3/28/05 for update.

Rocket Flat Pattern update 4/7/05, see the post below.

As for the answer to the allusive size question here is my take. After pouring over the reference photos that I have based on a 6’ tall Boba the JP should be about 15” wide not including the thrusters, (the Don Post JP measures 19”). To satisfy my curiosity I also measured the Screaming’s small Boba Fett model (the scale is about 1/6.67th) and the OSC 1/6th scale action figure doll version, the Screaming model scales out to 14.5” and the OSC is running 16.5”. The one important fact to remember here is that the JP be correctly sized to the user. What works for someone 6’ tall will look huge on someone who is 5’6”. Any opinions?

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**propsculptor** · 03-16-2005, 03:25 AM

Looks good, but the Jet Pack Activator has a Bevel on it,
(the metal piece on the outside of the Round Thruster (The ball)).

Here's a pic of what I am talking about:

The bevel is really slight, but it's there.

Otherwise I think you did an Awesome Job!

Is that a CAD drawing?

**wizardofflight** · 03-16-2005, 03:10 PM

Thank you! Wow, I missed that. This just the kind of stuff I needed, please keep it coming. When they are done I’ll be posting the final version.

I use AutoCAD V14, I import pictures, in this case the one from the Star Wars Chronicles and use a reverse perspective type of process to get the orthographic views. It is then exported to a GIF file.

Alan

**Rednave** · 03-16-2005, 06:27 PM

VERY VERY Nice! That's THE best rendering I've seen of the Jet Pack. Great work

**sithlord23** · 03-16-2005, 07:28 PM

Nice work man!

**slave1pilot** · 03-16-2005, 07:43 PM

Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
send me the measurements.

**Beowulf** · 03-16-2005, 07:45 PM

Looking good mate keep it up and us posted!!

**The-Dark-Knight-** · 03-16-2005, 08:19 PM

very nice. and when i mean nice i mean nice. i would try to give some tips but im not the kind of person that remebers little details...actually only a few actually know the real deal and i'd bet they'd agree that the jet pack you have there is a very nice piece!

**stormtrooper@rushmore** · 03-16-2005, 09:49 PM

Impresive! This might inspire me to make my own jet pack when I have the rest of my Fett Armor

**wizardofflight** · 03-16-2005, 11:16 PM

Thank you, the enthusiasm has encouraged me to get back to work on this drawing. I'll be posting completely dimensioned drawings when they are complete.

Alan

**propsculptor** · 03-19-2005, 10:14 PM

Here is another item I noticed, the rocket exhaust vent is too small on your diagram:

Do you see what I am referring to?

**wizardofflight** · 03-21-2005, 11:57 AM

Thank you! Those changes have been made and I have started to add more detail. Should have an update in a few days.

Keep it coming.

Alan

**BobaFettSlave_1** · 03-22-2005, 01:06 PM

you should make this into templates so we can go off of them. they look great

**wizardofflight** · 03-22-2005, 06:02 PM

That's the plan. I went and visited the Don Post Boba today to verify and take additional dimensions. It’s looking pretty good, I’ll have to make some adjustments and should have an update soon.

Alan

**wizardofflight** · 03-28-2005, 02:03 PM

Here is the latest version of the JP blueprints. I created a CGI model of the JP and superimposed that over a number of reference photos in order to verify the proportions. From the CGI model I was able to make the appropriate correction to the blueprints.

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardoffli...PackRB-sh1.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardoffli...PackRB-sh2.gif

On a side note, the Don Post version cannot be used a reference for the actual Boba Fett JP. I explored that avenue and was amazed at how different they are and as a result I had to completely ignore all of the dimensions that I took of the DP Boba jet pack.

As for the answer to the allusive size question here is my take. After pouring over the reference photos that I have based on a 6’ tall Boba the JP should be about 15” wide not including the thrusters, (the Don Post JP measures 19”). To satisfy my curiosity I also measured the Screaming’s small Boba Fett model (the scale is about 1/6.67th) and the OSC 1/6th scale action figure doll version, the Screaming model scales out to 14.5” and the OSC is running 16.5”. The one important fact to remember here is that the JP be correctly sized to the user. What works for someone 6’ tall will look huge on someone who is 5’6”. Any opinions?

The templates will be following shortly as well as a conversion chart so that the blueprints can to scaled to match the stature of each individual. They are currently drawn to match a standard 6 foot tall male.

Please take a look and see if I captured all of the details correctly and let me know what you think. I am also looking for any suggestions that you all might have that would make the blueprints and templates easier to use.

Alan

**Rednave** · 03-28-2005, 02:07 PM

The pic doesn't work, just a red x

**xaoslord** · 03-28-2005, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rednave

The pic doesn't work, just a red x

I had the same problem. Right click the link, chose Save Target As, and save it to your computer. Then you can open it.

Originally Posted by wizardofflight

Any opinions?

Wow. Does that count as an opinion?

**wizardofflight** · 03-28-2005, 03:00 PM

I have fixed the links above. Had to break it down into two sheets as the original image was just too large for the browser to handle. Both images are under 300K.

Thanks,

Alan

**wizardofflight** · 04-04-2005, 02:50 AM

Here are the rough draft of the flat patterns for the Rocket.

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardoffli...tern_rev_A.gif
Alan

**propsculptor** · 04-05-2005, 05:03 AM

Those are really nice!! I plan on using a very large lathe to do the Rocket,
but if it doesn't work that might be really helpful.

Originally Posted by wizardofflight

Here are the rough draft of the flat patterns for the Rocket.

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardofflight/Rocket_Flat_Pattern.gif

Alan

**wizardofflight** · 04-06-2005, 04:03 PM

Thank you.

Since I just got a metal lathe I had considered turning the rocket out of plastic, urethane foam or RenShape, but I want to try to keep the weight down as much as possible. Some of the pieces will still need to be machined. The notched base plate for one, I know I don’t have the patience to fold and glue 18 plastic notches in place. I was figuring on using the template as a cutting guide, once the basic piece is turned, the template can be glued down on to the cone and then the cutting would begin. The same goes for the section with the ring of holes, this should hopefully save a lot of layout time.

Has anyone ever tried to make a hollow fiberglass rocket?

I have most of the major JP components flattened out and will post an update in the next couple of days. Also should have the Arena JP flat patterns done soon as well, they will be posted on the Jango page thread. Most of the basic parts are interchangeable, the biggest difference is in the fuel tank covers. But, first I have a couple sets of custom armor templates to get out.

Alan

**BobaFettSlave_1** · 04-06-2005, 06:15 PM

well before you go any further. I printed out your BP's and some things dont line up. #3 is a example. the main(biggest) piece is too small when going round the big circle. I sudgest you redo your messurments

**wizardofflight** · 04-07-2005, 01:13 AM

Thank you for the catch, my dyslexia must have kicked in. I have rechecked the dimensions. They should be ok now and I have revised the drawing above.

Alan

**slave1pilot** · 04-07-2005, 02:09 AM

can I bug you enough to get a grid over the blueprints so I can get measurements?

**wizardofflight** · 04-07-2005, 11:37 AM

Not a problem, what size do you need? In my research it looks like the original JP was 14.5" to 15" wide, but in order to fit me the JP needs to be about 17.5” to 18". The key in sizing the JP is the shoulder width. Using a shirt or a suit jacket that fits well and a yard stick, have someone measure the width of your shoulders (sleeve seam to sleeve seam) and then subtract ½ inch and let me know the results.

One thing to remember when trying to size costume parts is that you can't just use height as a guide, for example I'm 5' 11", but my torso dimensions are equal to that of a 6’ 3” person, short leg syndrome. According to the standard anthropomorphic charts, my torso height puts me in 95% range, while my overall height of 5’ 11” is only in the 80% range. Let me tell you it is extremely difficult to nearly impossible to find a set of coveralls that fit, they all end up looking like circus tents. I’m now planning on going the two piece route, since I’ll need two sets anyway for the sleeves and the pouches.

Everyone is different as such there is no such thing as a ‘standard person’. I have done a few sets of custom templates for us hard to fit folks and Jango’s armor is by far the most difficult to fit, as each piece needs to be fitted to match its specific part of the body, not only in height, but in width as well. The important thing to remember is balancing the proportions.

Alan

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**slave1pilot** · 04-07-2005, 12:45 PM

yeah yeah anthropomorphic. that's it.

actually the measurement you asked for is 21 inches.
if I pm you my measurements can you tell me if I'm normal?

The reason I wanted the grid is to determine what size each piece is.
Basically I was just looking for a grid that's broken down into workable increments.

**BobaFettSlave_1** · 04-07-2005, 01:04 PM

another thing I noticed when cuting out and puting the pieces together(dont know if you fixed it) is that besides peices not lining up right. the pieces that were put together just fine were actually a great deal smaller than your rocket on the far left of the BP. I think you might have to redo the math a bit with the circumferences

**wizardofflight** · 04-07-2005, 01:34 PM

What can I say occupational hazard, the curse of being an engineer.

Here is the link to a diagram of the information that I need to determine if you’re ‘normal’

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardoffli...mor-Sizing.gif

I’ll see what I can put together for 21 inch wide JP.

Alan

Originally Posted by slave1pilot

yeah yeah anthropomorphic. that's it.

actually the measurement you asked for is 21 inches.
if I pm you my measurements can you tell me if I'm normal?

The reason I wanted the grid is to determine what size each piece is.
Basically I was just looking for a grid that's broken down into workable increments.

**wizardofflight** · 04-07-2005, 01:48 PM

That is strange since the dimensions were taken directly off diagram at the left. I will go back and double check. There are a few of the parts shown on the left that still haven't been drawn yet. Mainly the transition pieces and others that are flat disks. Also I have not include any glue surfaces yet so all the parts are butt jointed. Only the major parts have been captured so far. I'm still working on the nose cone as well, as it will be similar to a flat pattern of a globe. One thing you might want to check is that the aspect ratio is maintained when it is sent to the printer. That could cause some distortion.

I'll give the drawings a going over later today and work out any addtional bugs.

Alan

Originally Posted by BobaFettSlave_1

another thing I noticed when cuting out and puting the pieces together(dont know if you fixed it) is that besides peices not lining up right. the pieces that were put together just fine were actually a great deal smaller than your rocket on the far left of the BP. I think you might have to redo the math a bit with the circumferences

**BobaFettSlave_1** · 04-07-2005, 02:44 PM

mabie you just dubbled the length of the rocket in the pic and took your mesurements from that. if so that might not have given you the correct lenth. mabie you could determine the distance between each fin (top part of rocket is what im talkin) and repeat the distance between the other fins. that should work....

**bobamaker** · 04-07-2005, 05:05 PM

Superb work on those blueprints... I am also in the process of starting a jet pack and I have noticed a couple of differences between my exhaust port drawings and yours:

1. On all the shots I have the area indicated on my diagram is rounded and not square as yours is.

2. The side lengths on mine are shorter than yours.

Maybe I don't have the same shots as you, I think most of mine are from AoSW. Could you show a picture of the exhaust port that you used for reference as all mine must be different?

I've attached my template, hope it makes sense.

**wizardofflight** · 04-08-2005, 12:54 AM

bobamaker,

Something is wrong with your link.

I have been using these pictures from the Reference CD - Boba_Fett_001.jpg Boba_Fett_377.jpg, Boba_Fett_736.jpg, and Boba_Fett_766.jpg. Also the picture propsculptor posted above. And this picture AoSW_2002-07-10_65.

Here is a cropped view of the vent from one of the above pics.

BobaFettSlave_1,

I’m not sure what problem you are encountering. Can you post a picture? I have updated the rocket flat pattern posted above and I have added additional parts. I cut out the major pieces and started gluing them together, it will definitely be easier in plastic, paper is a pain I don’t know how the card model guys do such fantastic work. So far everything is fitting together pretty good.

Alan

**Rednave** · 04-08-2005, 11:24 AM

I just need to say that these blueprints are the most exciting thing I've seen regarding the jet pack in a long long time. I tip my helmet to you wizardofflight and your superior drafting skills. Thanks for taking the time to create these and sharing them with us. I can't wait to see the packs created from these blueprints.

**bobamaker** · 04-08-2005, 12:27 PM

Sorry, it was working last night when I previewed it.

**wizardofflight** · 04-08-2005, 02:07 PM

Bobamaker,

You are absolutely correct, the vent on the blueprints posted above was a earlier version, that I thought was fixed. Early on in the process I mistakenly used a photo of a fan built JP as a reference. I have since corrected my working version of the drawings, but apparently I used the wrong version when I made the post.

Thank you for catching that I usually put a big X over obsolete stuff. I don’t like to delete anything you never now when you might need it again, but it can come back to bite you.

Here are the 2 versions that I have, obviously the top one is the correct version the bottom one is from the fan built JP. I have to say though the fan built JP looked really good.

I’ll should be able to update the drawing posted above this weekend.

I encourage everyone to critique these drawings and post anything you find that looks wrong or out of place and if you can point me at the proper reference all the better.

Rednave,

Thank you, it is my hope that folks will find these plans useful. Because there is such a variety of people out there I’m planning on be putting together a series of different size templates for the JP, in one inch increments starting from 15 and going up to 21 inches wide. I am also going to put together a chart so folks can pick the correct size JP based on their shoulder width. This should cover the majority of bounty hunters out there, but if anyone needs some other size I will be more than happy to work up a custom set.

Alan

**Rat_Fett** · 09-17-2005, 03:53 AM

Hey Wizard,
Those links are now now longer working, can you repost them or anyone that has his original blueprints please repost. I'd like to give this a shot.

Thanks!

**wizardofflight** · 09-17-2005, 01:28 PM

These were just the draft drawings. The final version were posted over in this thread and they are still on line:

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f20/studio-scale-15-jet-pack-patterns-7559/

If you have any problem let me know and I'll can e-mail them to you.

Alan

**Rat_Fett** · 09-17-2005, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by wizardofflight

These were just the draft drawings. The final version were posted over in this thread and they are still on line:

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f20/studio-scale-15-jet-pack-patterns-7559/

If you have any problem let me know and I'll can e-mail them to you.

Alan

Hey thanks for that heads up!
I spent hours last night searching and reading every thread that popped up in regards to "blueprints" and never got this one.

Thanks again!

**Shinobi_Fett** · 11-15-2005, 10:38 AM

Hey! *I'm* one of the "card modeler" guys! Myself and KahunaFett! I'm going to start on the pack body possibly this weekend! I've been working on others things in the meantime. It's all coming together nicely! I'd say I'm about 52% done at this point, maybe more, but I have a lot of pieces that need assembly to be more complete.

Shinobi

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