Hoses--Black or Yellow?

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    Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    I have seen where a lot of people are coloring the insides of their hoses black, but looking at the MOM display pics they appear to be an orangeish yellow. Like a hose of this nature probably would look like had it been lying around out in the sun, or exposed, etc. etc...


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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    So what is correct? Correct-ish? Where they blackish in the movies?


    BTW I posted twice because the other reply wouldn't let me post anything after the pic. Weird.

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    ya, i was looking at the mom pics and thought the same! they have that used yellow/orange look to me

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    I think the only reason it's orange/yellow is because they are old and aged.

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    When you look at those pics though there is'nt really even a hint of black to them.

    Now, granted, that hose on the gauntlet could very well not be an original hose. The lower two hoses are gone from the exhibit, so it could very well be a replacement of some type.

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    Okay here's what I've come up with...

    I found two different hoses. One has a finer pattern to the weave. I think I'll use that for the two side hoses and the one with the larger weave for the main top hose.

    I tried multiple different things to get a yellowed color, but it seemed nothing would stain these suckers!

    The pic below has the bottom part original and the top part is stained/aged...


    Please....feedback is welcome!

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    So what did you do to age them in that picture?

    Phil

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    Belive it or not...

    Kiwi brown shoe polish.

    I found that the trick is staining the OUTSIDE of the hose. Everything I tried on the inside did nothing. It would just wash right out. Here's just a partial list of stuff I tried just to see if it would yellow/age the hose some:

    • multiple dyes
    • wood stain
    • gasoline
    • kerosene
    • diesel
    • acetone
    • drano
    • brake fluid
    • the dark part of 2 part resin mix (hey it stained the jug its in afterall!)
    • peroxide
    • isopropyl alcohol (not the drinking kind)
    • drinking alcohol ...
    • Goof Off
    • power steering fluid
    • antifreeze
    • oven cleaner (you should see what it does to bare hands)

    And any other caustic chemical I had readily available.

    Nothing wanted to work as much as I wanted it to.

    Then as a last ditch effort I grabbed the brown shoe polish from my polish kit. I put some on a wadding of foam rubber and pushed it through with a dowel and...nothing. All it did was leave a few small streaks on the inside. Then I tried it on the outside and BAM! Once you have it on there and let it set for a few minutes you can buff and then wipe, wipe, wipe, wipe, but the color WILL not come off the hose!

    I even tried with a white terry cloth towel and rubbed quickly until friction heat built up, but the coloring stayed! So those of you who wear your outfits should not have a problem with the hose done this way making stains on your suits!

    Hope this helps somebody as much as it helped me. I am also working on a rig for hose attachment that I haven't seen on here yet, so stay tuned for the next thread!

    Thanks

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    How long of a length of that hose do you need? We have a few extra where I work (they're used in soft drink gun systems) and I was thinking of "borrowing" one for my costume.

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    Re: Hoses--Black or Yellow?

    I think that is mostly going to depend on how mobile you want your right arm to be (if you're wearing the costume). I'm doing a static display so it doesn't matter.

    The more hose you have the greater the range of motion you're going to have. The fluid hose is very stiff and moves very little.

    I've read in other threads that some people use air hoses of the same type that are much thinner walled, but I have yet to find any like that.

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