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  1. Jesuit24's Avatar
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    May 15, 2014, 2:28 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #26

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    starting with a pre-made EE3 toy imo is the very very easy (cheap / cheater) route to take that many new or inexperienced members are taking and are somehow hoping that we are going to like their toy conversion.

    Sorry but if anyone is converting toys into movie props, that’s just sad IMO.

    I love that this hobby weeds out the lazy people or at least it should. If members want a low low budget build all good, I hope they have fun at their Halloween party but they should never think that painted toys are going to give members much love around here, ITS NOT.
    What.

    From my admittedly brief experience with TDH, I've come to the conclusion that this site and its members are some of the most welcoming, friendly bunch of costumers and prop builders I've ever come across online. They give praise where it's due and constructive criticism where it's needed and without any hint of elitism that tends to follow on some forums. The higher end Fetts don't judge those without the money or prop building experience to match their own level of accuracy, and I find that amazing.

    So it's rather baffling to hear your thoughts on the matter or the thinly veiled scorn you're exhibiting for someone who may not have the funds or skill level to match your own blaster. You've raised legitimate points about the Hasbro products but I don't understand where the anger is coming from? All you seem to be doing is turning your nose up at Travsall's work in a condescending and demeaning manner, denying the hard work he's put into it and offering no constructive criticism as recompense, all the while accusing him and anyone who attempts a Hasbro conversion of being pathetic amateurs beneath you and your blaster kit. Please tell me I'm wrong, because that isn't in the spirit of TDH at all...
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    May 15, 2014, 2:37 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #27

    Good for you if you have the money to buy the best. Or the talent to build the best. Better for you if you make due in what you have.
    In the past I made a modded hasbro larger and more scaled to my size, due to the cost, and trooping takes its toll on all costume items. Cheaper to repair..

    I got negativity from that build and distanced myself from this forum for that reason. Great work on your build thanks for sharing. It has inspired me to update my hasbro to look more accurate. for that I thank you ..
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    May 15, 2014, 4:23 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #28

    Come on guys,think this is getting outa hand at the end of the day we all have are own opinions which we are entitled too....think the mods she close this thread :-)
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    May 15, 2014, 4:57 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #29

    Quote Jesuit24 said: View Post
    What.

    From my admittedly brief experience with TDH, I've come to the conclusion that this site and its members are some of the most welcoming, friendly bunch of costumers and prop builders I've ever come across online. They give praise where it's due and constructive criticism where it's needed and without any hint of elitism that tends to follow on some forums. The higher end Fetts don't judge those without the money or prop building experience to match their own level of accuracy, and I find that amazing.

    So it's rather baffling to hear your thoughts on the matter or the thinly veiled scorn
    This is where I stopped reading, please understand that we have never met and you don’t really know me. People who own the Hasbro EE3 blasters may be upset with my opinions and I could understand why but my admitted disdain is for the toy gun itself so no one can take anything I say about said toy gun personally in any way in fact, only the toy gun should be offended. Lol


    Quote Jesuit24 said: View Post
    All you seem to be doing is turning your nose up at Travsall's work in a condescending and demeaning manner
    Mmm…. yeah not true, please read my comments I made about this being the best conversion I have ever seen done on the Hasbro EE3

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    all the while accusing him and anyone who attempts a Hasbro conversion of being pathetic amateurs beneath you
    Wow again hmmm… I never said any of this.

    Quote Stinkape fett said: View Post
    In the past I made a modded hasbro larger and more scaled to my size, due to the cost, and trooping takes its toll on all costume items. Cheaper to repair..
    I get the cheaper to repair part, but no one should ever be in a hobby if cost is a major concern at every turn and every corner you come to.

    Scuba diving, RC cars/plains, Sport Fishing, Boating, these are just a few of the hobbies I have had and loved over the years that are very expensive and I decided not to partake in any longer due to cost.

    Quote Stinkape fett said: View Post
    In the past I made a modded hasbro larger and more scaled to my size, due to the cost, I got negativity from that build and distanced myself from this forum for that reason.
    This is a Boba Fett Costume Community where all skill levels and incomes are welcome. No matter if you buy Boba Fett props or make them yourself but this is by and large a prop building community so please try to understand where I’m coming from. When I think of building a prop EE3 Fett blaster step 1. does not include buying a toy EE3 blaster.

    Bottom line - I’m getting heat from some TDH members that really want me to believe that a toy gun should be considered a legitimate SW Fett Movie Prop and imo they are not one in the same.
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    May 15, 2014, 5:48 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #30

    You don't need to explicitly state anything to infer meaning. I highlighted all the red flags in your post that suggested an underlying distaste for those who use the blaster. 'Sad' and 'cheaters' were two particularly harsh terms used which weren't directed at a toy blaster.

    It's not my intent to antagonise you; I don't have any ill will against you.Like you said, this is a Boba Fett costume community. We're all here because we love the Fett and want to bring him to life. We all have different ways to work towards that goal. I just don't see why someone heavily modifying a blaster for their costume is such a heated topic; it's just a different way of doing things. One that requires just as much, if not more, ingenuity and hard work to make look half decent, compared to an MR blaster or a kit that needs filling/sanding. For the most part, I was agreeing with you up to that post; it's just the way it was worded was very off-putting.

    Sorry if I offended. You're entitled to your opinion. I just think those that want to convert a toy blaster are also entitled to theirs.
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    May 15, 2014, 6:40 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #31

    Travsall's blaster mod looks awesome and I bet it was fun to do. That is all that matters. Nice work.
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    May 15, 2014, 8:24 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #32

    Please tell me how telling him it's tiny compared to the real thing is not constructive criticism...

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    May 15, 2014, 9:18 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #33

    Quote Jesuit24 said: View Post
    Sorry if I offended. You're entitled to your opinion. I think those that want to convert a toy blaster are also entitled to theirs.
    Brother you could not offend me, but you seem to be bothered by words I have used.

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    I highlighted all the red flags in your post that suggested an underlying distaste for those who use the blaster. 'Sad' and 'cheaters' were two particularly harsh terms used.
    “Distaste for those who use the toy blaster” Really man? You found that meaning somewhere in my words. Here’s what I said.

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    I'm seeing these toy guns being sold on eBay as props and it's really sad.
    Please don’t recall meninges or intentions I never made. I never called anyone “sad”. Here I’m referring to the situation as being “sad” and that’s not the same this as calling members sad. I hope you understand that there is a big difference.

    Quote Jesuit24 said: View Post
    I highlighted all the red flags in your post that suggested an underlying distaste for those who use the blaster. 'Sad' and 'cheaters' were two particularly harsh terms used.
    Here you pull out the word “cheaters” I used. Here’s the context in which the word was used.

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    Building an EE3 blaster for yourself is the best experience a prop builder can have, but starting with a pre-made EE3 toy imo is the very fast and easy (cheap / cheater) route to take that many new or inexperienced members are taking.
    You think I’m calling people Cheaters if they use the Hasbro toy gun, But I’m only implying this it’s the easy, fast, quick way to build a Prop blaster. Maybe the word cheater was not a good selection but let me ask you this and keep the answer to yourself. What’s the first word that would come to your mind if we were in a EE3 blaster build-off competition and in your box was templates, cardboard and plaster but in my box there was a Hasbro EE3 toy blaster, both black and silver paint?

    I think we bombed this thread enough, if you would like we could discuss the issue offline. PM me I”ll even send you my phone number we can talk all about things we do like i.e. walks in the park, holding hands and Boba Fett. Lol
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    May 17, 2014, 6:07 AM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #34

    Ok.... Ponte so let me get this right.


    The dented helmets sole purpose is to create movie quality boba suits and that's it? Am I right because I thought is was a community that was created for the love of a character from a movie we all love. So your saying for someone that can't or even chooses to build their suit out of how you say kids-craft materials should feel less because they didn't buy parts from the many prop dealers on the forum is just bad form on your part buddy. Did you ever stop and think that not everyone can go big or go home, some just have to make do with what their budget will allow? I did my hasbro blaster mod because A: it was a cheap mod that I in joyed doing and B: I had a new baby one the way. Saying someone in my predicament should not do a mod and just save up a few more hundred buck to spend on a blaster, (that would have went over well with the wife). Did you ever stop to think maybe not everyone is trying to create a movie accurate costume, maybe some people just want a cool looking boba suit and that's it.

    All I'm saying is the criticism seems to be happening more often then not. Prime example you jumped in on Travsall's thread to jump my **** nothing more. Take with it what you will brother I didn't come here to fight with anyone. Just want to pop in and let Travsall know he did a great job on the mod that's all.



    chris
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    May 17, 2014, 12:39 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #35

    Interesting thread and interesting build. I think the barrel mod certainly improves on the standard piece; in my opinion an alteration to the angle of the bracket and stock would yield a substantial benefit to the overall look. I saw another of these recently on RPF and I think it looks great. Obvioulsy a lot of work went into it and it turned out very nicely as have several others I have seen although personally they're not for me; it seems strange to me that several seem to think that we all want exactly the same things out of life. Whilst I think the options offered by Sidewinder/Stormrider and HS are excellent not everyone wants or can afford that. One could almost suggest that real Webley owners would look down on owners of those three great options and that would be very silly indeed.

    Here's a link to the RPF build:

    Boba Fett EE-3 blaster WIP-pic heavy

    Enjoy

    Andy
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    May 17, 2014, 1:21 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #36

    Army, criticism is how you tell people that they can make it better...IE IMPROVE on what they have. I said it was to small is that incorrect? Look at this thread here for some inspiration in making a replica blaster, instead of grabbing a 20 dollar toy gun and trying to polish the proverbial turd, make your own base with $20 worth of wood. http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f45/w...scratch-49694/
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    May 17, 2014, 2:04 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #37

    Quote intwenothor said: View Post
    Interesting thread and interesting build. I think the barrel mod certainly improves on the standard piece; in my opinion an alteration to the angle of the bracket and stock would yield a substantial benefit to the overall look. I saw another of these recently on RPF and I think it looks great. Obvioulsy a lot of work went into it and it turned out very nicely as have several others I have seen although personally they're not for me; it seems strange to me that several seem to think that we all want exactly the same things out of life. Whilst I think the options offered by Sidewinder/Stormrider and HS are excellent not everyone wants or can afford that. One could almost suggest that real Webley owners would look down on owners of those three great options and that would be very silly indeed.

    Here's a link to the RPF build:

    Boba Fett EE-3 blaster WIP-pic heavy

    Enjoy

    Andy
    Hi Andy that is a great thread, awesome build! but he uses very little of the toy gun and relies heavily on years of skill to get the finished results.
    the circled area is what he used and that's maybe 20% of the real toy.
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    This to me is a straight up legitimate Prop blaster build and here's why. He uses very little of the actual toy gun, adding full sized T strips, a real wood stock, PVC barrel and a real scope. His display of skills and craftsmanship is undeniable, a true artist. Some members like me normally cringe when we hear Hasbro toy blaster but here with your example and Travsall's build we see real skill and passion for prop building.

    "Some members like me normally cringe when we hear Hasbro toy blaster" (=Syper=)

    I say this because at any skill or budget level, i want members to try and attempt to build a blaster for yourself from scratch or kit. Guess What? no matter what it looks like, we are going to pat that member on the back. The point here is to encourage that member to keep building more props. In time their skill level will increase and one day they may want to rebuild that blaster over again, and their builds can only get better from that point on.

    Some of us are getting worked up about what we think this guy said or what a members feels, lets not get rapped into that and i will apologize if i inadvertently headed us in that direction, that was not my intention. Lets all get back to our Man-Crush on Boba and start building ****.

    (=Syper=) Jim
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    May 17, 2014, 2:25 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #38

    Jim,
    you make an accurate observation on the amount of the blaster used in the RPF thread although I think the part he has used is the most difficult part to scratch build; it certinaly turned out very well indeed (and that doesn't detract fromthe effort spent). I like the build by travsall in this thread and the painting and weathering in particular but I stand by my comments on the bracket/stock - I think the angle really gives the Hasbro away... that comment is meant constructively.

    For my own part I am four years into my build now and the end is nowhere in sight. I have bought many pieces pre made and painted by Bobamaker and whilst I think they're very nice I have far more of a connection to the Asok helmet I painted myself. I think my build is likely to take even longer in light of this as I now want to be more involved in my own build rather than just an expensive decade long shopping trip. Having something cool is great but having something cool you've a hand in yourself is great!

    Live the dream.

    Andy
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    May 17, 2014, 3:00 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #39

    Quote Army said: View Post
    Ok.... Ponte so let me get this right.


    The dented helmets sole purpose is to create movie quality boba suits and that's it? Am I right because I thought is was a community that was created for the love of a character from a movie we all love. So your saying for someone that can't or even chooses to build their suit out of how you say kids-craft materials should feel less because they didn't buy parts from the many prop dealers on the forum is just bad form on your part buddy. Did you ever stop and think that not everyone can go big or go home, some just have to make do with what their budget will allow? I did my hasbro blaster mod because A: it was a cheap mod that I in joyed doing and B: I had a new baby one the way. Saying someone in my predicament should not do a mod and just save up a few more hundred buck to spend on a blaster, (that would have went over well with the wife). Did you ever stop to think maybe not everyone is trying to create a movie accurate costume, maybe some people just want a cool looking boba suit and that's it.

    All I'm saying is the criticism seems to be happening more often then not. Prime example you jumped in on Travsall's thread to jump my **** nothing more. Take with it what you will brother I didn't come here to fight with anyone. Just want to pop in and let Travsall know he did a great job on the mod that's all.



    chris
    I never said anyone should "feel less" because they didn't buy a screen accurate blaster...my whole comment on "kids crafts" had almost NOTHING to do with this mod; it has to do with shoddy workmanship on multiple builds that get the "Wow, this is perfect!", a sentiment you fully support which I feel kills innovation and self-improvement. It's a fact.

    My main issue was when you got on Fett4Real's case about how he should come in and just say "great job" on something that wasn't screen accurate...he never said that it was a bad build, he made mention of the extremely apparent size difference between the Hasbro and the movie-accurate blasters. That's it.

    I'll accept that there are people here who want to build their Bobas as cheaply as possible, using as little time and effort they can to pump out an instant gratification costume, be it finances, lack of time/patience/whatever...but you also need to accept that there are those on here who aren't afraid to "tell it like it is", and offer improvement. It's one thing if Fett4Real or myself came in and said "Wow, looks like a turd"...no, the sentiment was "It'll be really hard to get it screen accurate, HERE'S a photo explaining why".
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    May 17, 2014, 8:34 PM - Re: Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion #40

    This would pass muster for 501st, which doesn't give real stats for this, and as Mr Fett stated not required. Not nearly as bad as the FX stormtrooper helmet they've allowed for years in the 501st.
    Outstanding job on this piece of plastic by the way....a little size difference but looks great.

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