Gloves Information

These parade gloves have a button on the wrist. Have we seen them befor?

http://www.armynavyshop.com/prods/rc4410.html

Cheers,
ST

Those are kind of cheezy.

Actually, the original gloves were pretty much just that-- a white (most likely) dress/parade glove. You could probably modify the snap to be a button if you wanted to be accurate, but I think it might make a pretty good base. That's probably the modern day equivalent of the original prop glove.

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Yeah, check out this photo from Braks reference library. It looks like they added a little extra for a gauntlet, plus the hand-stitched pads.

http://www.TK409.com/images/fett/reference/gloves2.jpg

Yep, that's pretty much what you'd use, just like Tyler said.

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Those are kind of cheezy.

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Actually, I happen to know first hand they work very well for a base glove since that's pretty much what they used on the originals.

Although I didn't get my base gloves through there, my newest batch of base gloves are almost certainly identical. I don't know how folks getting my gloves will respond to the inconvenience of having something extra to fasten in addition to the velcro, but they will "look" closer.

WOW!!! $4.00!!!

I got to give those a try! What have I got to lose...right?

I've been in the military for over 15 years now, and it's true: things change with the time, including the uniforms we use. During the time I've been there, I've seen two changes in the "Dress Green" (the semi-formal, good-looking suit) in different kind of fabric and quality, as well as the BDU's (normal camouflage uniform you see most of the time), and I think that Tyler is right about the construction of the glove itself...It probably was a Parade or Ceremonies kind of glove, which I think I've seen them somewhere long time ago...but just like I said about the uniforms, some things change, as I think it happened to the gloves as well before I joined the military.
And I think and my theory about the originals is that they were made exclusively for the movie's character, and not some kind of glove that you could find anywhere, like someone said in another thread, -..."some kind of ski gloves..." or "welding gloves"....now with the Ref CD on hand, plus this pic just posted here...all I can say is that S1 is the closest one (perhaps the better) in making this gloves in the forum, and maybe anywhere! :thumbsup

Robert :fettrotj

http://publish.hometown.aol.com/ecli...images/bug.jpg

Like this?

Nice find, as usual. Got a pic of the other side of those gloves?

I think I'm going to give this a shot too. I also found a portable sewing machine at Big Lots today that looks like its small enough to fit into the finger area of the glove which would take the hand-stitching out of it and make it easier.

I found these sights for gloves as well. They are all seem much the same although some look to be of slightly higher quality material and workmanship. :)
Cheers,
ST

http://www.camo.co.uk/g01.htm

http://www.gloves-online.com/parade.htm#COTTON

http://www.copquest.com/12-2500.htm

http://www.safehand.com/cg-frame.htm

I followed Chrima's idea for gloves and they turned out pretty good. I got white ones and dyed them gray using black Rit dye. I'm not nearly the seamster Chrima is, so these took a long time to do. I would recommend getting the longer 12" parade gloves so they stay tucked in your armor. Here's a reference photo

http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/gloves1.jpg

http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/gloves2.jpg

Wow, you're just ripping into this costume man :)

Very nice gloves, they don't look poorly sewn, and from a distance no one is going to care anyway. Colors look good, patterns look close enough, chalk up another $100 saved :)

Make me feel like I'm throwing mine away left and right with my costume lol...

Phil

As always, you do nice work. :)

Cheers!
TJ

Thanks! I still have to weather them - any suggestions? It's been very rainy lately so I have no access to dry dirt. :(

Just use your tempera paints, Mr. Fancypants! lol

Seriously, it drys like a chalky powder, right? Just paint it on something, let it dry and wipe your hands with it. That or charcoal pencils of varying colors.

Or just wait for it to clear up,

Phil

TK409, great looking gloves!!!!!

Congrats!

Nice!!! :D:thumbsup

They look great . Just to show that it doesnt have to cost alot to look nice. Its the rugged look like Boba is supposed to be.

great work :cheers

how long did u leave the gloves in the RIT dye to acheive the gray color?does the dye have a odor to it?im asking because i live in an apartment and dont have very good ventilation available.

The Rit dye does not have an odor - you can do it in your apartment on your stove (you have to heat up the dye water) I left them in for about less than a minute. You'll see them start to turn and you can pull them out when they visually get as dark as you want.

Those are some pretty sweet gloves TK409. :thumbsup
Do you mind if we ask which ones you ordered? I think the Cotton, Snap Wrist gloves would work.
Keep it up. :)

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You can find gloves here:
http://www.paradestore.com/main_frame.asp?g=GLOVES
I would recommend the longer 12" ones, but I got the "flag bearer" gloves with a velcro wrist closure before I realized there were others available. They've also got a "non-slip" dotted texture on the palm that I didn't expect (like gardening gloves) .

I added fabric gauntlets to these. I'll add velcro to the fabric gauntlets and velcro inside the armor gauntlets to keep them from slipping around. I will probably get the 12" and make another pair.

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The Rit dye does not have an odor - you can do it in your apartment on your stove (you have to heat up the dye water) I left them in for about less than a minute. You'll see them start to turn and you can pull them out when they visually get as dark as you want.

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thanks :thumbsup

im going the parade glove route,i have been really impressed by those who have used them :D

Very nice job, 409. Thanks for sharing. Those look absolutely wonderful. :thumbsup

THose should do quite nicely TK409! As everyone else said, Excellent job. Only thing I was wondering about was the stitching lines down the main white part on the back of the hand. I'm pretty much an ESB guy, so I know ESB has those, but I'm not shure about ROTJ. In any case, excellent job man!:thumbsup

Nice job on those gloves. Looks good to me. Just a note about the other gloves on the site. I got the second ones on the page, "Cotton Snap Wrist". They have lines on the back of the hand. I took the stitches out but they still show a little. For the ULTRA screen accurate people out there, they might not like these. There's another pair about the middle of the page "White 3.5 oz Interlock" that don't seem to have the lines. They aren't 12" long but for $1.40 a pair you can't go wrong.

Looking good TK409. I'm making mine too, but they're after the helmet, armour and gauntlets, so it might be a while before I see 'em.

If they come out like yours I'll be happy!

Si

Nice job Chris! :thumbsup

What kind of grey gloves do you guys all use for a Boba costume?

There are three threads on the first page alone that deal with the gloves. Check out these threads:

http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=4601&forum=3
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=5037&forum=3
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=4476&forum=3

I'd recommend giving the board a good a look around and maybe give the search engine a whirl. There almost isn't a topic that hasn't been covered to some degree.

sorry, i did look first, i guess im just blind today. lol

Plus, I asked this question to get more than 3 people's responses, and 2 0f the 3 links you gave me had the same response.

Hey, it's cool. :) But this board just has a repository of information that has already been hashed over. If your question is reasonably related to another, you can post your question in one of the existing threads, as well.

The reason the answers are pretty much the same for the gloves is because the originals appear to be some sort of dress/parade glove with a button closure that has been modified.

Yeah, it does look like ill have to get some parade type gloves. But a while back, I made the brown ones that he had in the preproduction pics out of some jersey gardening gloves.

Yes, the Prepro (brown gloves) were also parade gloves that had been painted brown. In a couple of the prepro photos, you can see the same little button closure. ;)

Excellent!:thumbsup

Robert :fettrotj

Ok, all the gloves Ive seen on here seem to be the ESB version, any suggestions for the ROTJ(light gray) gloves?

Same gloves, only very slightly lighter.

I feel going by the MoM gloves could be deceiving, due to the fact the suit has been laundered a bazillion times since the actual time of shooting.

Here is pic of the ROTJ gloves during the filming of some of the ROTJ desert scenes:

http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/e2/buckethead/14.jpg

As you can see, they are a good deal darker than the gloves at MoM, and not that much lighter than the ESB's.

Thanks. I'm guessing those are parade gloves too, am I right? If I dyed some white gloves could I make them that light colored?

Yes, I believe all the gloves used for Fett were parade/dress gloves. And you could absolutely dye a pair of white gloves to get the same effect, because after all, I believe that is how the real pair were made.

Ok, but the MoM gloves dont look like parade gloves to me, any ideas on what those were made from? I want to eventually make both pairs.

Another thing, I know this isnt the helmet section, but why is the ESB helmet on the MoM ROTJ suit (im goin by the pics on the reference site). Some of the pics also show the ROTJ helmet though.

Um, exactly what do you think they look like then? I have seen no evidence to the contrary that they are a type of dress/parade glove.

The ESB gloves are the Jedi gloves and are the prepro gloves-- same glove different painting/dyeing. Again, I believe the ROTJ are only slightly lighter in color than the ESB's due to washing and/or harsh conditions on set in the desert.

As for the helmet situation, you are seeing two different exhibits: one is the Magic of Myth (MoM) and the other is the Art of Star Wars (AoSW). The MoM suit has the Jedi helmet and Jedi suit. The AoSW has the Empire helmet and a Jedi suit that was also used for the Second Edition scenes.

I wasnt saying they aren't parade gloves, I'm saying they just didnt look like the same material as the others. And I wasnt talking about the gloves used in ROTJ, I was talking about the light light gray gloves seen in the exhibit pics.

All indications are that the MoM exhibit gloves and the RotJ gloves are one and the same, only faded. More than likely they have been washed a time or two and the color has faded, not to mention what the direct sunlight of the Tunisan desert may have done to them.

The difference might be due to the fact that the gloves are on a maniquin instead of an actual person, so the gloves in the ref pics from the exhibit might seem a little baggy, while as pics from the movie might make the gloves look tighter because they are filled with hand ;)

I'd post pics of the gloves except I have no idea how.

There are essentially only two types of Boba gloves: the brown Pre-production gloves with the patches on the backs of them and the gray ESB/RotJ gloves with white cloth accents sewn to them. The only difference between the ESB and RotJ gloves is that the RotJ gloves are a shade or two lighter than the ESB pair. The gloves used in both the MoM and AoSW exhibits are presumably the same pair, the same ones used in the movie.

If you have a picture of something other than what I just described, email it to me and I'll post it.

Yeah, you are probably right about the ROTJ gloves but I was just lookin at a pic of the 1st prepro suit (the one w/the eyes painted on the helmet) and it looks like hes got slightly different color gloves than the other prepro suit. Maybe it just looks that way in this certain pic but I dunno.

do you want me to email it to you?

Sure. I think you've peaked everyone's curiosity with just what gloves you're talking about. Send it to me at caudillppd@peoplepc.com

Just to clarify this, no version of the brown Pre-production gloves were used in any of the movies, just the gray ones in one shade or another.

I don't think sending Bobafettish pictures of gloves is a good idea ;) you see, as the name implies, he has a thing for hands, and you would only be contributing to his "problem" :lol

Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. :lol

If it is a Pre-pro picture that you are using for reference, than Fettcicle is the man to see as he is one of the few who has a completed version of that particular costume.

I know the prepro gloves werent used in the movies, I've been an insane Boba Fett fan for many a year and I would have noticed.lol

The light grey gloves I've been speaking of are the ROTJ gloves seen in MoM that seem to be lighter than the movie version. People have pointed out to me that they are probably the same gloves, just faded.

I'm not making the brown gloves for my suit
(not yet anyway) but you said if I've seen Fett wearing any other gloves to let you know. They look darker to me but like I said, it could be this certain pic.

email sent

Here's the pic AOD was referring to. It is the Pre-Pre-Production suit.

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/Pre-PrePro.jpghttp://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/Pre-PreProGlove.jpg

The glove color from that PrePro suit does look slightly darker than the brown on the PrePro suit we are accustomed to seeing, PrePro 2. However, it again can be contributed to different painting/washing. Also note that picture is taken outside in daylight.You can even clearly see the ab plate is a different color than the upper armor.

off topic but i think i stumbled onto something...the dent pattern on those knees look exactly like the ESB pattern.the right knee has one dent near the taper and one on the inside top.the left has a split at the bottom of the taper and another dent on the inside.could they have been repainted and used for the ESB suit?i have been looking for clear pics of the dent pattern but all the ESB pics are so grainy.in this pic they look very clear.

sorry for hijacking the thread:D

By the way...you could tell that the gloves were actually brown Jersey gloves that you could find a pair for $1 at Dollar General, Family Dollar or Dollar Tree, which I think that you could find them at the first one I mentioned before. I think that they were used before, because they look lighter in color or probably they lighten them up a little for the PreProd. model, that then they added the same finger and forehand add-ons like in ESB/ROTJ style glove, but tan color.

The emblems in the forehand are actual military DCU (Desert Combat Uniform) color, FORSCOM symbol that you could find at a military surplus store. Try www.rangerjoes.com if they have them.

Robert :fettrotj

I didn't see the hourglass patch, but they did have this one:

Army Ground Forces
Sew On Patch Desert
http://www.rangerjoes.com/images/8378.jpg

Well, I have a correction to make on the gloves on the second Prepro suit: It has a snap instead of a button and eyelet. Either I forgot that or I am an idiot who thought the 2nd prepro had a button and eyelet.

Here is the proof:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/TylerD...glove_snap.jpg

The 3rd prepro has the button and eyelet that we see on the ESB and ROTJ gloves (MoM & AoSW). Proof of the button and eyelet on the third prepro:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/TylerD...ove_eyelet.jpg

All you prepro guys need snaps now!! :D

I can't seem to find a pic showing the back of the 2nd prepro gloves clearly. I am working on adjusting one of those images now to see if something shows up.

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Robert :fettrotj

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The patch is FORSCOM, but it's just the regular subdued patch. In the 80's, the desert wasn't a major theater and they didn't have desert patches back then. Only since Desert Storm has the military started mass producing DCU patches. And the other patch (hourglass) is the 7th Infantry Division, again, regular subdued. 7th ID was deactivated in the early 90's. Right now, as far as I know, only a small detatchment of 7th ID are active at FT Carson, CO. Sorry for the history lesson. Look at any surplus store in your area. You can probably buy the patches for a buck each.

Wes

Edit: fixed the quote tags. :D

heres another pach from rangerjoes.
http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2495709.jpg
this is my 1st time posten a pic, hope it works.

That's the one. I would suggest a surplus store. They'll be cheaper and you'll have the patches right then.

Look what I found.
http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2534422.jpg
it was also available i think in olive drab and black

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Look what I found.
http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2534422.jpg
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Yep, that's the 7th Infantry Division (Light). That's the other one you want, but subdued (green and black). That picture is of the class A patch.
How much are they asking? If it's more than a couple of dollars, don't get it. If there are no military surplus stores in your area, I'll stop by the one here. He has stacks of them for like a buck each(don't quote me). If not, I can go to clothing sales (I'm in the Army) and buy some.
If anybody wants them let me know.

Wes

I got my Boba gloves today, or at least a base for the Boba gloves. Parade gloves, no snap or button for 2 bucks from the army surplus store in town. They were selling them cheap because their mediums run a bit small. Fit me fine though. I'm off to work then to buy dye and other materials. I'll try to post progress pics as I go. The Summer of Fett 2003 begins. Boots are next I guess.

*UPDATE*

Dyed the gloves and they turned out a little dark after just seconds in the dye. I think it will fade though. I tried sewing last night and it is not for me, so I'm going to cheat. I bought some of that iron in seam and will be trying that in a matter of minutes. Hopefully it will work and all I'll have to sew is the lines in the top of the hand. Pics to follow sometime in the near future.

They were asking 3 bucks each, but I won't need these patches until well after I'm finished with my first pair of gloves(ROTJ) and go on to make the other versions.

I went and bought some patches. I posted a thread. If you want any, I have 7 sets, $5 shipped.

On the subject of the Pre-Pro gloves, I've always thought that they were not the same parade gloves as the ESB/ROTJ base glove. The material texture and the cut always made them appear to me as if they were some type of suede glove, maybe a work glove or driving glove.

It seems that we are making a distinction between a 1st version of the Pre-Pro gloves, and a 2nd version. I think it's the 1st version that I've always thought of as the suede-type gloves. If there actually are two versions of the Pre-Pro gloves, then the 2nd version may be same base gloves, or they may be the standard brown jersey gardening gloves.

However, after studying the pics in Chronicles, I've fairly convinced myself that none of the Pre-Pro gloves are brown jersey gardening gloves. As I mentioned above, the material texture and cut seem to be different from the standard jersey gloves. Also, the "cuff" of the gloves seems to be inconsistent with the standard jersey gloves--the jersey ones always have an elastic-type "stretchy" cuff, while the pics in Chronicles suggest that such a cuff does not exist on the Pre-Pro gloves. This may mean that the parade gloves were used as a base, but looking at the texture and cut of the base gloves, I still doubt this.

I may need to go home, dig out Chronicles, fire up my cheapo scanner and see if I can demonstrate my theories. ;)

My apologies for the ramble. I've been wanting to have this discussion for some time! :)

Ok, it works. In the time it took me to sew half a finger I have "glued" two. I bought this stuff called Steam-A-Seam2 fusible tape for 4.50 at Hobby Lobby. I trace a finger, cut it out, cut the fusible tape in half (its 1/4 of an inch, too wide for fingers and the added batting) stick it to the glove and finger and iron... the only problem im having is that the fingers are fraying on the sides. Looks good though. Cost of gloves was 2 bucks, 3 for the white material and 4.50 for the tape. Fett gloves for 10 bucks...

Phunk...let's see some pics...PLEASE! :lol

I dont have a digi cam so I'm going to finish one of the gloves tonight and have a friend take pics so I can post them tomorrow or Friday. Another friend just told me there is something I can buy that makes material not fray. So I may be doing these over.

Almost done with the second glove. I'm having a bit of trouble with the hand patch, getting it to match the first glove. These have turned out terrific so far. Mind you, they arent as well crafted as Slave 1's, but they are good enough. If I can get my hand on a digital camera I may post a tutorial for the rest of you budget Bobas. The first glove took some time to do but the second one took maybe an hour, including messing up the hand pad two times. I have plenty of fabric and batting leftover so I may try my hand at this again. Two bucks for a pair of gloves is all that will take.

For what it's worth, I bought a few pairs of long-cuffed white parade gloves from paradestore.com. There are NO stitch lines on the backs of the hands. Rememeber, although these lines might be covered up by the right hand pad, the left hand pad is shorter, to make room for the gauntlet extension. You might not be able to cover up these stitch lines on the left glove.

Also, the longer cuff (although not movie-accurate), allows me to pull the glove up over the jumpsuit sleeve, about halfway up the forearm, and makes the gauntlet wear/removal alot easier. It also looks alot better than the bunching at the wrist, as with shorter gloves.

I bought three pairs, and set up a dye mixture with Rit Pearl grey color. The first was too dark, second was too light, but the third was JUST RIGHT (you guys remember the fairy tale with the bears). Anyhoo, I dried all three pairs to make sure I got the correct color hold, and made my own pads for the backs of the hands and fingers.

Total cost of gloves: $20 and some change.

NOTE: For those thinking of using a machine to sew these pads, or glue- the movie props were HAND-SEWN. This process gives them a more worn-out look.

In that respect, Slave1's are the closest I've ever seen. Until I get MINE finished. :)

I scored some sweet parade gloves at an army surplus store yesterday, and they were only 50 cents:D! they were a little old, look like they've been sittin there for a while, but that makes em better! they don't have the button closure, but they are a longer cuff that I like better anyway! I used a light grey krylon spraypaint, and painted, then washed them, and they came out nice! now to start the sewing process....ugh:rolleyes

Eric,

Do you remember what the mixture was that you used to dye your gloves? I just got my own set of parade gloves a week or so ago (cost more to ship them than the gloves were worth), and was about to do some experimenting on dyes but . . if you can help shed some light, that would be great.

Jer

Unfortunately, I don't have an exact measurement for you. That's why I bought three pairs. I used a stove-top pot with hot water, a little laundry detergent to soften the water, and half a bag of dye to start. The first pair was really dark, almost a slate color. So I adjusted as I went through the pairs.

What you COULD do- take the gloves to a fabric store, and have a saleperson help you find the exact material, probably a knit fabric.

Use the spare fabric to set your dye, and dip when you like what you see. Remember, after you dye them, let them dry to make sure your color is what you want. I used Rit pearl grey, by the way.

I wish I had a better answer for you. :( ****.

Well . . . that does help. I now know that half a bag is way too much! hahaha

Actually, the gloves I got are just a hair too tight on me so . . I'm thinking I'm just going to use them for practice anyway.

So, I'll maybe start with a quarter of a bag and see where it goes from there.

Thanks for the tip.

Jer

Here is a pic of my finished gloves. lmk what you think. I used rit black on them which was too much so i then dunked them in bleach for a little while and came out with this color. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76759916gBEGyP

Nice work on making them yourself, but try and get more grey into 'em. ;)

Those look awesome...Slave1 move over...:lol

D. Wolfe - excellent work! I tip my helmet to you!

What did you use for the base glove? Parade gloves?

Quite amazing the way you made your gloves,...IMPRESSIVE! Even though, I wished some people read my thread about my Slave1 gloves and what I did to them...EXACTLY THE SAME. They turned out like a TAN color instead of Grey. This is the link of the thread,

http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=3655&forum=3

My recommendation from now on will be...DO NOT USE BLEACH when dealing with gloves. When using RIT dye, use a gray color instead of black (for future reference).

Now my question remains...what kind of gloves did you use? They look kind of different from the ones I've seen so far.

Robert :fettrotj

They are parade gloves. They only cost like $3.95 so i wasn't out much if i screwed them up. Vader, i did read that but i decided to try my own way. Live and learn i guess. I am still happy with the way they turned out especially since i couldn't afford the ones slave makes. I also second your choice of not using black anymore. I can't remember where i ordered them from but there was a link somewhere on one of the gloves post that i found them on.

D. Wolfe,

Do you still have the name of the place you got those parade gloves?

Thanks

No, i looked around and i threw away the brochure. I just searched on the web for parade gloves also. You can probably find them that way too. There are alot of places that sell them.

This is where I got mine http://www.paradestore.com/main_frame.asp?g=GLOVES

Thats the place!

I just got mine from there. I ordered 2 pair. One 12 inch and one standard. They shipped great and look good. I will try and post pics soon.

I ordered the regular ones. I'm thinking about getting the 12" ones.

Did we ever get a consensus on whether the glove pads were made from the found TDH material? Or the jumpsuit material?

I'm starting the 'sewing-the-pads-to-the-gloves' project this weekend, but wanted to verify what material was used. I already have my parade gloves dyed, dried and ready to go.

Slave1, what do you recommend?

Ninja, I have my parade gloves but haven't dyed them yet. What did you use and what process? Any pics of them at thgis stage?

Trial and error, my friend. Trial and error. :p

Initially, I bought three pairs of parade gloves. I got the ones that go a little further up the arm, over the jumpsuit, so as to keep the jumpsuit sleeve from bunching under the gauntlet around the wrist. It's not movie accurate, but it looks a helluva lot better.

I set up a pot of boiling water, and added almost a whole bag of dye (Rit Pearl Grey, powder), a little salt, and some laundry detergent (to soften the water). I dipped the first pair for about a minute and pulled them out. WAY too dark.

So I dumped half the pot, refilled with water only and tried again. WAY too light.

So finally, I added the rest of the dye, and got them just right. Now for a bowl of porridge and some bear meat...

You'll want them just a hair darker than what you'd normally wear. Once they dry they will appear a little lighter and if you wash them (recommended after the dye bath), they'll lose some of the dye there as well.

I know that's not the 'precise' answer you were looking for, but I hope it helps.

The best way is to start with very little dye in the pot and work your way up to the point they look good to you.

Of course, you didn't answer MY question! :)

My bad...

From what I remember, I thought the pads for the gloves were white cotton. This helps with the contrast of the glove.

BTW - I bought 2 pair of gloves. One wrist lenght and the 12 inch as well.

1 more thing... Do you have to soak the gloves in acetone prior to dyeing, like the girth???

Nope, no acetone soaking. As a matter of fact, I'd think that the glove material is so delicate, I'd hate to see what acetone does to it. :)

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Yes, it is very likely that the material on the gloves is the same as on the vest-- possibly the reverse side of the material.

I am planning to dye my gloves from Paradestore tonight. I have a box of Pearl Gray RIT and a 12 qt pot. Does anyone have any advice as to how much dye, how much water, how long, etc...

I am new at this whole dyeing thing.

Also, are the ROTJ spats the same color as the gloves? I figure if they are supposed to be darker, I can always leave them in longer.

Thanks