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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #1

    I went a little different way and bought a western girth (not an English one like you guys are doing) for about $6. It isn't an exact match for the orignial costume, but the only people who would know that are you guys, so I feel okay with this. Besides, the one large buckle is very easy to work with and, I think, looks better. Here it is:
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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #2

    That looks promising. I hope it works out well for you.
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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #3

    How many inches do you guys think that they shrink?
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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #4

    They will shrink an incredible amount. I would say nearly in half!!! The way to get around this is to get a 2X4 and drive nails into it spaced the exact length you wish your belt to be. Immediately upon rinsing your belt afetr dying, hook each end over the nails. You may have to stretch it a bit but not much. If you wait till it dries you can pretty much forget it!
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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #5

    thx for the tip BB.
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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Girth or Rope Belt Information #6

    Originally posted by Lord of all that is Fett:

    The Rope Belt is actually a mohair horse girth with a diagonal weave. The girth is attached at each buckle end with 2" wide black nylon straps (elastic would be a good alternative or even leather from an old belt)that are sewn into place. There are a total of four buckles on the girth. Most girths that match the description above should be ordered in white then dyed to match your favorite Fett/Mandalorian. Pre-prod/ESB Fett is Dark Brown while ROTJ Fett is Dark Red. There is a tutorial on proper dyeing techniques for the girth. A popular supplier of girths is www.ridersupply.com their model #509802 sizes 38" to 52" in white. -Mark

    <<edit: added model number for girth>>TK1028


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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - <B>Merged:</B> Re: Rope Belt #7

    Originally posted by Braks Buddy:

    Unless State Line Tack has changed their supplier of mohair girthes they are selling the wrong girth (cross weave). Rider's Supply www.ridersupply.com offers the correct belt. Check out the pic below for more info on the three most popular online girth suppliers.



    Here is a pic from MotM. You can clearly see the 1" black straps that hold the girth together. They are sewn to the buckles on one side and buckle like a belt to the other. I am no longer convinced that these straps are elastic although I still feel elastic would best suit the situation as they would could cause the girth to hug the wearer's waist where a regular strap would need to be tightened very snuggly to keep it in place...

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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #8

    Originally posted by TK0000:

    I ordered one from riders supply, bit they are out of stock! Anybody know where I can get a correct one of these?


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    Mar 13, 2002, 3:11 AM - Merged: Re: Rope Belt #9

    Originally posted by WebChief:

    I got mine off ebay and did the whole boiling in RIT dye on the stove thing months ago. It worked great!

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    Apr 10, 2002, 10:35 PM - Merged: Merged: Re: Riding Girth Belt #10

    Bardo Fett,
    I didn't dye mine I spray painted it with Krylon satin Burgandy. No shrinkage there.
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    May 3, 2002, 3:49 PM - Merged: Re: Where can I get a Girth? #11

    You need to go to statelinetack.com
    Type in mohair non slip girth.14 strand with A double buckle
    wich is the correct style.They come only in white.
    good luck
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    May 3, 2002, 3:49 PM - Merged: Re: Where can I get a Girth? #12

    Rider's Supply sells the correct girth. Go here: http://ridersupply.com/bridlespg4.htm

    Item #509802
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    May 27, 2002, 9:42 AM - Merged: Re: How Many Rows On a Girth??? #13

    Boba's is fourteen, seven on the top strand and seven on the bottom strand. I believe that Jango's is the same, but I will double check my pics from C2 later today when I get home.
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    May 27, 2002, 9:42 AM - Merged: Re: How Many Rows On a Girth??? #14

    If you are doing Jango, the belt is a custom made, braided leather belt with about 20 rows in in.
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    Jun 24, 2002, 8:44 PM - Merged: Re: Girth Belts and Accetone #15

    I had a heap of trouble getting my belt to dye to begiun with. I finally discovered two things:

    1. USE ACCETONE. You can usually get it in a can from Wal-Mart ore K-Mart. Put the girth in a large metal bowl and pour the accetone over it. The girth will probably soak up most of the accetone and what it doesn't soak up will most likely evaporate over night. BE SURE TO WASH THE GIRTH THOROUGHLY before attempting to dye!!!

    2. Get a big pot and use it to dye the girth. I tried using a turkey pan in the oven and that didn't work at all so I got a large metal pot (again from K-Mart) and used that. Heat the dye/water almost up to boiling. If you bought the right girth (cotton) it WILL take the dye.
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    Jun 24, 2002, 8:44 PM - Merged: Re: Girth Belts and Accetone #16

    Hard to believe it's been a year since we all were going through the fiasco of dying girths huh Braks I think you must have bought 3 of them right? I had 2 myself

    The funny part is that I'm still not done my ESB Fett,.....and to think that I started this costume to "out-do" a local guys ROTJ Fett because he snubbed my GT Trooper armor.I'll have the last laugh come Fett comparison time because the jealousy will eat him up,but my wallet is hurting evermore

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    Jun 24, 2002, 8:44 PM - Merged: Re: Girth Belts and Accetone #17

    I soaked my belt in acetone all night and the dye still didn't take.....I ended up spray painting it....It looks good that way too.



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    Jun 24, 2002, 8:44 PM - Merged: Girth Belts and Accetone #18

    I've read that you use accetone so the girth belt will take the dye better. My question is how much do you need and how do you dispose of it afterwards.
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    Jun 24, 2002, 8:44 PM - Merged: Re: Girth Belts and Accetone #19

    I dyed mine with RIT and it never really took enough so I ended up spray painting mine as well. Burgandy and black mixed... came out fine and doesn't rub off like you might think it would.
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    Jun 24, 2002, 8:44 PM - Merged: Re: Girth Belts and Accetone #20

    I haven't done this method myself,but when alot of guys were doing it,they soaked the girth completely in Acetone.I don't know if they submerged it,but it was definitely supposed to be soaked.As far as what to do with it when you're finished with it,I don't know what to tell you.It does evaporate rather quickly.You could always dump it on some concrete,and light it at night time for some pretty blue flames :evil


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    Jul 2, 2002, 5:38 AM - ROTJ dying tutorial by Steve #21

    Originally posted by TK1028:

    Klinsek was successful with the following procedure. I am quoting Klinsek here:

    “Got my girth from statelinetack.com, size 38" to allow for some shrinkage.

    Put the belt in a container, then pour laquer thinner or acetone all over it until it is good and soaked. Make sure you use a glass or metal container for this, as the thinner will eat away a plastic one. Leave it in a ventilated area, or outside if weather permits, and let it soak up for about 4-5 hours. This gets off any synthetic coatings or treatments, which was keeping people from getting the belt to take dye.

    Now rinse it off REALLY good with a garden hose or something. It will probably still stink like hell, so give it a quick hand wash in the sink with a bit of laundry detergent until it smells decent.

    Time for the dyeing! I used one(1) bottle of the liquid RIT dye, color: Cocoa Brown. I completely disregarded the directions. I think this is the key. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT="">

    Stove top dyeing is the way to go guys and gals. Pour about a gallon of water into a pot. I used a big metal crock pot. But you can use any pot that will hold a gallon of water. Just make sure its not filled all the way to the top to avoid a stainfull mess. Put it over a LOW heat and get the water hot, but NOT boiling. Never let it get to a boil. Now slowly pour the WHOLE container of liquid dye into the hot water while mixing with a wooden spoon you care never to use again. Hehe. Stir it in real good. It will look like yummy tar. (what?)

    WET the belt under the faucet first with hot water, then put it into the dye pot. Try not to get any on your hands, its a pain to get off. Now, you must stir often and keep moving the rope around every 5 mins or so. You want to make sure it gets a nice even dye. If you let it sit to long, some areas will soak up more dye than others. Again, make sure the water never starts to boil! I kept turning the burner off awhile, then back on again when it started to cool, so it didn't get to hot.

    Keep at stirring and shifting the belt around for about 45mins.

    Throw on some dish gloves or equivalent. Now take the pot over to a big sink (kitchen, whatever) and take the belt out and lay it in the sink. Run it under WARM water, and get most of the excess dye off. Squeeze the belt as the water runs over it and ring it out good. Keep this up until it seems like most of the excess dye is out. Now give it another good hand wash in detergent like before after the laquer/acetone process. Rinse and ring it out real good again, then lay it out somewhere to dry. Let it dry indoors though, cuz the hot sun will cause it to dry TOO fast, and it will shrink lots. It will take a long ass time to dry nevertheless. Be patient.

    When you are done you should have simillar results as I did. My belt has a reddish brown color to it, which is more the ROTJ style. If you are going for ESB I guess you could get the regular 'brown' color RIT liquid dye, instead of the Cocoa Brown.

    If anyone has any questions please post, or e-mail me at jedi_klinsek@hotmail.com

    Again, this is what Klinsek posted at the RPF; the credit goes to Steve. Hope it helps.

    Here is how it turned out:



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    Jul 2, 2002, 5:38 AM - Another Dyeing Tutorial from Michael Max111 #22

    Originally posted by Braks Buddy:

    Originally posted in the first Boba Fett Details Thread by Michael Max111.
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    OK, I may have made a break-through with dyeing the rope belt. I'll give you a quick run down of my failures.
    Got wrong belt from Richie, he sent ESB and we thought I could dye it red. Wrong
    First attempt with RIT over the brown crappy red brown.
    Next I used RIT color remover and re-dyed, didn't take.
    Tried RIT again failed. Tried hair dye, failed. Tried RIT a few more times and it wouldn't take. It always came out on the rinse. Then I bleached the belt and it came out almost white. Tried RIT and failed. Then I tried a dye from pro chemical, heavy duty industrial stuff, and failed. Till tonight!

    So tonight I thought I'd try boiling the thing in the dye, where as before I was just doing the hot water method. So I used the pro stuff on the stove for about 20 minutes and rinsed it and the dye held but dyed the belt a purple gray color. So being out of the pro stuff I tried again with RIT. I put it on the stove on simmer with a full box of cardinal red about a cup of salt and a half bottle of vinegar and I let the thing cook for an hour and a half ( I forgot it was there) Anyhow the end result was a dark red-purple color.
    But my point is that the dye did not rinse out. Tomorrow I'm going to bleach it again and re-boil the belt, but this time I'm going to keep an eye on it.


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    Jul 2, 2002, 5:38 AM - Girth Dying #23

    Originally posted by Braks Buddy:

    OK, here is a brief tutorial. I have not got the exact color correct yet but at least I finally got the girth to hold the dye! This is basically a modified version of Klinsek's instructions...

    Items Needed:
    -1 Qt. Acetone (DO NOT substitute Laquer Thinner for acetone)
    -PLAIN salt (NOT iodized salt)
    -2 packs RIT dye
    -WHITE vinegar
    -Large boiling pot
    -Large stirring spoon


    -Soak girth in 1 quart of acetone overnight.
    -Hand wash girth with mild detergent. Wash well!!!
    -Mix 2 cups HOT water with 9 tablespoons PLAIN salt in large pot till salt dissolves.
    -Add 2 packets dye to hot salt water.
    -Put belt (which should still be wet from above step) in pot with salt water/dye mix..
    -Add enough water to cover belt
    -Stir for approx 10 minutes
    -Add 2/3 cup of WHITE vinegar
    -Continue to heat for 30 minutes stirring occasionally.
    -Rinse until water runs clear. This may take a long time.
    -Stretch girth to desired length (measure before hand) on a 1"X6" board and nail down. GIRTH WILL SHRINK IF NOT SECURED!!!
    -Allow girth to completely dry but do not expose to direct sunlight.

    NOTE: When dying, keep pot on low heat setting - DO NOT LET BOIL!!!



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    Jul 2, 2002, 5:38 AM - Size? #24

    Originally posted by MaxPlague:

    Which size/length girth are you guys ordering? I have a 33 inch waist, 32 when I'm in better shape <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT="">

    But I see the girths are listed at like 38-54? How does this sizing work? Any hints?

    :::OOOOPS!:::EDIT::: <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">
    I see that their are some girths listed beginning at 20"
    I guess maybe I'll try to find a 28 or 30" to leave some room for the connector straps.

    Maybe I'll just order one and send it back if it's too big.



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    Jul 2, 2002, 5:38 AM - Re: Size? #25

    Originally posted by Braks Buddy:

    The 38" is fine. It will shrink a LOT when you dye it. I have the same waste as you and had no probs.

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