FP Armor - Version 3

K. Now I'm a little peeved :lol:

Because of the dentless knees of mine all these years ... I never paid as much attention as I should have. And add the fact that I've not been a big ESB fan, more of an ROTJ/SE guy. So it didn't matter :lol: So even though I feel stupid, it's with explanation :lol:

The knee dents. Since no one posted any pics for me :facepalm, I educated myself last night. Only AFTER I DUPLICATED TEH KNEE VAC MOLD :lol:

Prepro 1, Prepro 3, ESB, and ROTJ (Original) all share the same knees ppl ! :lol: Why didn't someone tell me !!! FP doesn't know everything, contrary to popular belief :lol:

kneecompscreen.jpg


So there you have it. The new knee "Menu" is "With" or "Without" dents now :lol:

:p

FP
 
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No way! I had never seen that before... Nice comparison pics.

With dents for me... ;)


Prepro 1, Prepro 3, ESB, and ROTJ (Original) all share the same knees ppl ! :lol: Why didn't someone tell me !!! FP doesn't know everything, contrary to popular belief :lol:

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Great to know that...

Well, I personally feel the same... I've always been an ESB guy, so never paid attention to the other ones... but nice to see them compared...!!!

I'd need them WITH dents please :D... (ESB)

And BTW FP... you have PM.. and it's important you check it, cause I cant paid untill you answer it... :$:$:$

Thanks
 
FP... did you mention a new sculpt for the right shoulder bell? in all the excitement I can't remember seeing your comments? ;)
 
You have to ask your self though, are you making the knees for folks duplicating what they have reference for from the exhibits, because those are not the same knees on the right knee due to them using a pre pro knee. (dent wise) And the dents on all in the film are indeed similar... or almost the same but were all added after the fact so there are tiny human error type differences in them.

Here is a compare of the main exhibits we look at as reference.

rightknee_fett.jpg


leftknee_fett.jpg
 
*sigh*

Justin, I know the exhibits are different bro :facepalm

But what this is about is ... ROTJ or ESB. Period. Not Prepro 1, 2, 3, ESB, ROTJ, ROTJSE, MoM, AOSW .. ect ... There is NO way, I'm making a knee mold for everything we see on print :lol:

This discussion, was to streamline what can be reasonalby included with an armor kit, without filling my garage with 50 molds, and taking two more weeks to duplicate molds. Afterall, what "Fett" is all about on TDH is "Accuracy". And I attribute the term "Accuracy", to "Screen Accurate". And that's ESB, or ROTJ. Just so turns out I lucked out, and they're the same, or similar enough that unless we get more reference from ESB, we'll never know for sure. :lol:


YAnd the dents on all in the film are indeed similar... or almost the same but were all added after the fact so there are tiny human error type differences in them.

I have to disagree with this statement. Not that the dents were placed after they were pulled, but that they're not the same pieces seen from film to film. For instance .. the AoSW exhibit.

The Fett on display there, or the Fett that you saw at C4, appears (quite convincingly) that is is in fact repainted ESB armor. Human error considered, the dents on the armor, and knees are indistinguishable from the ESB reference we have available. It's even more compelling, when you look at the prepro 1 and 3 parts (specifically the knees). Totally ESB. And at least one of those knees still exist in my opinion .. on the AoSW display. It occurs to me, that given that there could have been 10 sets of knees at some point, it's funny that in the following pic, we see 2 raw sets. Is it inconceivable to you that they may have made 2 sets and rotated them between concepts and movie versions? Even if there were 3 sets. Remember, they were on a budget. And I seriously doubt they made a ton of anything ... except helmets :lol: Fiberglass was cheap.

fettparts.jpg


Bottom line, there will be two options offered. With dents, and without. And here is what they now look like .... if you can tell the dents apart from ESB/ROTJ screen worn, then I've failed horribly.





FP
 
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All I was stating is that the way you have it now is "accurate" as the dents were added later on and on each set.

If your going to offer a "pre dented" version then I was addressing that most folks doing SE and that a majority of us go by the exhibits, the pre pro knee is the ugly ducking in the bunch. This would require only one additional or a "third" mold with dents being that the pics show the knees to be pretty much the same through out the screen used pieces.

This senerio dosnt fill your garage with molds by any stretch. I am just adding my 2 cents in. I am not going to assume anything when I show examples of things that we are discussing as that would not lead us to a better prop. It was taking a fresh look at all of this stuff with a new perspective that has allowed it to improve.

So no need for a *sigh*, a :facepalm or a :lol:

All that is needed is a :cheers
 
Plus, it's very easy to recreate any type of dent on these plastic pieces.

Make a circle of a desire size on a 1 inch thick piece of wood and put the heat gun in front of the circle to heat the plastic. Then take a round object to press the heated section to make your dent. viola!
 
I have to disagree with this statement. Not that the dents were placed after they were pulled, but that they're not the same pieces seen from film to film. For instance .. the AoSW exhibit.

I was referring to the different sets they have. There were 6 to my knolage and yes several were repainted. I wasnt disagreeing with you on the notions on the repaints. This would be a great explanation for the whereabouts of the ESB armor.
 
Plus, it's very easy to recreate any type of dent on these plastic pieces.

Make a circle of a desire size on a 1 inch thick piece of wood and put the heat gun in front of the circle to heat the plastic. Then take a round object to press the heated section to make your dent. viola!

I used the back ends of different brushes to create my dents on the V2 knees and it worked great and very easy. I am sure it looked funny to the nabors though, me holding a pice of plastic in one hand with a lighter under it and a brush in my mouth. :lol:
 
6 sets that you know of huh? Wow. And, where/who does this information come from? :lol: Brak's used to say, that making statements like that should be accompanied by photo evidence. ;)

And yes, there is room for a *sigh* bro. Because I'm seriously busting my hump here. If you want a "third" mold, I'm afraid you're just going to have to make it yourself :lol:

Dentless is accurate, yes. Accurate to preproduction. Not accurate to what we see on the screen. What it seems you're failing to see here, is that there are members here who may not have the same skills that you do. So to recreate a reasonable facsimile of what we have grown to know and love, is the point of "Screen Accuracy" in this case. Not all members will dent their armor, exactly the same. Small example ... Two members meet at a con, and one of them likes how the other dented his knees better? That member feels a level disappointment in himself, or envy, and the experience of owning a prop REPLICA is shot down. So if "I" can reasonably reproduce what we see on the screen for EVERYONE alike, doesn't that make the world a happier place?

Again, 2 options .. with, or without dents. The dented version will cover ESB/ROTJ. The undented version will cover the purists, that would rather dent them themselves.

FP
 
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There were 6 to my knolage and yes several were repainted.

yeah...that's news to me..?? Where did that come from? 6 sets.??
How would we even know that for sure??..not that it matters....
But third and second hand, heck maybe by now fifth hand :lol:, info from way back when.. is soooo hard to verify.

But I think making the knees universal is the Best option.(y)..with no dents.
Same reason FP took out the wavy brow in the FPH....more options, and that's first hand info right there. ;)..:lol:
 
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I was simply stating my understanding from talking to alot of people and simply by looking at good photography of the different sets. I dont have to back up an opinion, just facts.

And Alex, at one point you agreed with me on that, we have had several discussions on it.

And yes, I agree with you Alex, no dents is the way to go. Everyone can make it what they want to.
 
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