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  1. Sixxgunn13's Avatar
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    May 13, 2008, 11:28 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #26

    slave1pilot that is one detailed pic...
    do you have anymore?
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    May 13, 2008, 11:36 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #27

    wow thats even more off the nemrod than i thought. the back of the receiver aint even round. its flat and at an angle.. nemrod is not correct. it would require to much work to make it look like that. Thanks for the pic S1P
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    May 13, 2008, 1:17 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #28

    dang. where do those detailed pics come from? sure now that you have such a clear shot, i can see the difference as well. worse now. so there seems to be an oval piece on the top, and a round piece below it!

    i highlighted the lines of it a bit, and that sure is a strange looking piece now.

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    May 13, 2008, 1:23 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #29

    Thats a great pic slave1! Looks like two different trigger guards, good luck with the search everyone
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    May 13, 2008, 2:46 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #30

    Could it be a semi-professional air gun...?
  6. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    May 13, 2008, 9:12 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #31

    Quote slave1pilot said: View Post
    NO , they definately do not.
    Glad you posted that pic and not me..

    I think we can eliminate the Clipper..
  7. slave1pilot is offline slave1pilot
    May 13, 2008, 9:29 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #32

    Quote Spideyfett said: View Post
    Glad you posted that pic and not me..
    LOL

    Everyone,
    please keep something in mind
    There are pictures that members on this forum have, that they cannot post publicly
    There are many reasons for this. Each person has their own reasons
    My reason is this;
    I gave "someone" my word that I wouldn't post the pics on the net


    I have tried to keep my word & have not posted the full pics
    The pic above was cropped & posted in haste to prove that i was right.
    In hindsight, I wish that I would not have done so.
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    May 13, 2008, 9:34 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #33

    Dont hold out on me man!! I need my fix!
  9. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    May 13, 2008, 9:36 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #34

    Double post..
  10. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    May 13, 2008, 9:36 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #35

    Quote slave1pilot said: View Post
    LOL

    Everyone,
    please keep something in mind
    There are pictures that members on this forum have, that they cannot post publicly
    There are many reasons for this. Each person has their own reasons
    My reason is this;
    I gave "someone" my word that I wouldn't post the pics on the net


    I have tried to keep my word & have not posted the full pics
    The pic above was cropped & posted in haste to prove that i was right.
    In hindsight, I wish that I would not have done so.

    Well said Nate....
  11. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    May 13, 2008, 9:40 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #36

    Quote BobaFettSlave_1 said: View Post
    Dont hold out on me man!! I need my fix!
    I don't think anyone is holding out...it is what it is....there is ownership involved with allot of unseen pictures.....it's not to hord, trust me...lord knows if I got the okay I would post everything I "MAY" have....

    for the Record, this is a really great thread...
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    May 13, 2008, 9:49 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #37

    Just FYI guys, there are several different brands of vintage spear guns with the split trigger gaurd.
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    May 13, 2008, 9:50 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #38

    Quote Spideyfett said: View Post
    I don't think anyone is holding out...it is what it is....there is ownership involved with allot of unseen pictures.....it's not to hord, trust me...lord knows if I got the okay I would post everything I "MAY" have....

    for the Record, this is a really great thread...
    ya this is a great thread. Nate thanks for the pic. im sure just that little pic will recindle the recreating of the sidearm. its got me wanting to heavily modify a MLC
  14. slave1pilot is offline slave1pilot
    May 13, 2008, 10:06 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #39

    Quote SaxeCoburg said: View Post
    Just FYI guys, there are several different brands of vintage spear guns with the split trigger gaurd.
    I'm still leaning towards the Nemrod;
    overall shape of the pistol grip
    split trigger
    Holster

    I just don't know what model
    and...
    I could always be wrong
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    May 14, 2008, 6:54 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #40

    personally i find it very, lets say "saddening" that a lot of information is held back. i think everybody that is here on this forum is looking to build the best costume possible for him/herself, and a lot of effort is put into those costumes, only to find out later that the time, effort and money wasted was used up to build something totally inaccurate. i will never understand these type of people, sorry. as soon as i find out what was used for this blaster i will post it for everybody to know that's for sure. cause that's what i believe this forum is for, share your findings and gather information and help each other out. i don't believe in bragging. as far as the rights owned to pictures. who's asking to see full pictures? but if there are certain areas that are still unknown in recreating fett's costumes, just a shot of this particular area/item certainly would help out the entire community.

    that being said does anybody here have a pic of the :
    Balco Sub Torpedo 50 spear gun?

    might not be the one, but i only found a real tiny pic, where i couldn't make out anything in detail.
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    May 14, 2008, 6:54 AM - #41

    here is a pic of one that looks like the marmit blaster. now inaccurate after seing the above posted photo, but still interesting to see that one like the marmit piece actually exists.

    Last edited by volkerc; May 14, 2008 at 7:03 AM.
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    May 14, 2008, 8:29 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #42

    Quote slave1pilot said: View Post
    ...please keep something in mind
    There are pictures that members on this forum have, that they cannot post publicly
    There are many reasons for this. Each person has their own reasons
    My reason is this;
    I gave "someone" my word that I wouldn't post the pics on the net


    I have tried to keep my word & have not posted the full pics
    The pic above was cropped & posted in haste to prove that i was right.
    In hindsight, I wish that I would not have done so.
    hmmmm.
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    May 14, 2008, 8:41 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #43

    ^ what he said
  19. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    May 14, 2008, 9:11 AM - #44

    Quote volkerc said: View Post
    personally i find it very, lets say "saddening" that a lot of information is held back. i think everybody that is here on this forum is looking to build the best costume possible for him/herself, and a lot of effort is put into those costumes, only to find out later that the time, effort and money wasted was used up to build something totally inaccurate. i will never understand these type of people, sorry. as soon as i find out what was used for this blaster i will post it for everybody to know that's for sure. cause that's what i believe this forum is for, share your findings and gather information and help each other out. i don't believe in bragging. as far as the rights owned to pictures. who's asking to see full pictures? but if there are certain areas that are still unknown in recreating fett's costumes, just a shot of this particular area/item certainly would help out the entire community.

    that being said does anybody here have a pic of the :
    Balco Sub Torpedo 50 spear gun?

    might not be the one, but i only found a real tiny pic, where i couldn't make out anything in detail.
    Does that mean me and Slave1pilot??.....WOW, poor form
    Anybody who knows me, even you V, should know that I'm the last one to hold back.................least of all "brag".......

    and I think for the record Slave1Pilot was nice enough to post what he did, even though he shouldn't/couldn't have, IMO..... I think that in it self helps in some way, doesn't it??...I mean it does prove that the Clipper is wrong, doesn't that account for something?

    Trust me, you have it pegged all wrong.
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    May 14, 2008, 11:20 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #45

    i was speaking in general, spidey. otherwise i would have mentioned names.

    yes the clipper is wrong, and i'm glad i know now that it is the wrong one. but i made my findings public, to start a discussion if this could indeed be the one or not. and based on the poor info available it could have been the correct piece. so i can now concentrate on finding the correct piece.

    i'm glad someone was able to clear this up. but just looking at the double trigger guard, i'm sure a few people in this world and other forums knew about that feature. i didn't until i compared the clipper with the poor pic i had from the movies/sidearm/holster pic. the point i'm getting it, is that if i would have known that for a while, i could have corrected other builders, and say hey, that trigger guard needs to be double not single type, in attempt to strive for accuracy. isn't that's what it is all about? let's say i know a certain thing about something, and nobody else has proof but me, and i would claim this is how it has to be, how could i proof other people wrong, if i wouldn't release my findings and back up what i'm saying!?
    this topic was started to find out about the real deal, like what almost 30 years ago that the movie aired. at this time we still have a shot at finding stuff out there, like nemrod holsters for example, and i'm sure that sidearm will pop up eventually as well. but how long should one wait to clear things up? another 20 years? fat chance finding anything then.
    and i don't think my post reflected a "poor form". cause there is also a lot of folks at lfl holding infos back.so if you think i attacked you, than that is what you believe, but i certainly did not point anything into your direction.
    it is my only attempt to uncover the mistery about the sidearm. and i don't need to be the one finding this missing/unknown item. i'd be happy for anybody else to step forward and present us with the facts. i'd applaud if this piece surfaces. as it makes the hunt for a lot of fans easier. and that's what the entire topic is about, exploring and finding the darn thing. nothing else. and there are no personal sentimentals involved here. just trying to get to the point of the issue, what sidearm was used. if it was carved out of a piece of wood, if it was a spear gun, or air pistol, who cares. but i would like to see the real piece. that's all.
  21. Spideyfett is offline Spideyfett
    May 14, 2008, 11:32 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #46

    Quote volkerc said: View Post
    i was speaking in general, spidey. otherwise i would have mentioned names.

    yes the clipper is wrong, and i'm glad i know now that it is the wrong one. but i made my findings public, to start a discussion if this could indeed be the one or not. and based on the poor info available it could have been the correct piece. so i can now concentrate on finding the correct piece.

    i'm glad someone was able to clear this up. but just looking at the double trigger guard, i'm sure a few people in this world and other forums knew about that feature. i didn't until i compared the clipper with the poor pic i had from the movies/sidearm/holster pic. the point i'm getting it, is that if i would have known that for a while, i could have corrected other builders, and say hey, that trigger guard needs to be double not single type, in attempt to strive for accuracy. isn't that's what it is all about? let's say i know a certain thing about something, and nobody else has proof but me, and i would claim this is how it has to be, how could i proof other people wrong, if i wouldn't release my findings and back up what i'm saying!?
    this topic was started to find out about the real deal, like what almost 30 years ago that the movie aired. at this time we still have a shot at finding stuff out there, like nemrod holsters for example, and i'm sure that sidearm will pop up eventually as well. but how long should one wait to clear things up? another 20 years? fat chance finding anything then.
    and i don't think my post reflected a "poor form". cause there is also a lot of folks at lfl holding infos back.so if you think i attacked you, than that is what you believe, but i certainly did not point anything into your direction.
    it is my only attempt to uncover the mistery about the sidearm. and i don't need to be the one finding this missing/unknown item. i'd be happy for anybody else to step forward and present us with the facts. i'd applaud if this piece surfaces. as it makes the hunt for a lot of fans easier. and that's what the entire topic is about, exploring and finding the darn thing. nothing else. and there are no personal sentimentals involved here. just trying to get to the point of the issue, what sidearm was used. if it was carved out of a piece of wood, if it was a spear gun, or air pistol, who cares. but i would like to see the real piece. that's all.
    Not taken personal at all..... again trust me, if me or others were "ALLOWED" to post half of the stuff that has yet to be shown, half of this Fett Mystery would be solved.....so I acutally agree with what you are saying.
    But it did come off as though you were putting me and Slave1pilot in that same boat...that's all....and that's far from the truth....again, it is what it is.
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    May 14, 2008, 11:45 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #47

    moving on. so now who has more info!!!?
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    May 14, 2008, 11:45 AM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #48

    Even though I completed my costume, im always still learning and I love these types of threads! Im ignorant on the different pics people have that they cant show. The last thing I want is for someone to get in trouble, im just gracious I can see whatever gets posted. So my question is, do these pics come from the outside? Or are these pics people have just taken the time to disect from screen shots. I understand if you cant answer though, I was just wondering
    Sorry for getting off topic.
  24. KaanE is offline KaanE
    May 14, 2008, 12:37 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #49

    I searched all the vintage spearguns and I haven't seen any good one. But the most correct IMO is the one that superjedi posted in another thread.

    It's named Addict Gun 1 by Paul Herrin.
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    May 14, 2008, 1:09 PM - Re: Exploring the ESB sidearm #50

    i don't see no double trigger guard, and no round tube near the barrel, just below the top .i have looked at that websites spear guns for weeks now, and none seem to be a match.

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