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    Sep 19, 2010, 12:49 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #76

    While I have only had time to skim over this thread and was only alerted to it by a fellow board member, the call for britt59/Gabe/Evolution Props to be banned seems a bit extreme. He is still here on the board, he is still responding to inquiries and accusations. He hasn't simply vanished.

    While I am not going to defend Gabe specificially, something I think needs to be stated anew for ANY transactions you have on the internet is "caveat emptor." The internet is not Wal-Mart. Internet transactions often are not handled professionally, don't have a customer service department and have very loose return policies if any at all. I don't know how it is in other hobbies, but I can tell you this without a doubt. If you ever become a seller or maker of props... every bad thing in the world will happen to you. You will lose you job. Your wife will leave you. You dog will run away. Your car will break down. Your paypal account will be hacked. You will become chronically ill. Apparently the wold hates those who produce items for others and will throw everything at you, including the kitchen sink to stop you from getting those items to your customers on time. Now, whether these issues are real or imagined, buyers just need to know in advance, the minute you buy something from someone, all of the things listed above are going to happen to the seller you just paid and more than likely if they tell you 5 days it is going to be 5 months, and if they tell you 5 months, you will likely die before you see the product. There are exceptions to this rule, but generally speaking this is what happens and you just need to know and accept it going in. If you can't accept this fact of internet trading, you shouldn't buy on the internet. While all of this is said somewhat facetiously, on the whole, there is some truth to it.

    So, in regard to Gabe, for those calling for a ban, it just isn't going to happen at the moment, not as long as he is still here and making an effort to make his issues right or at least defend why he is doing what he is doing. If you don't like the quality of his products or his shipping or he returns policy, you are welcome to say so and DON'T BUY FROM HIM. However, to imply the guy is some type of scam artist seems a little over the top.
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    Sep 19, 2010, 10:40 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #77

    I have giving Gabe a time to respond to me email as in a refund . That time is 12 noon Monday Sep 20th 2010 my time to give me a 3/4 refund but if he does not I will put up the video I made so I will give him the chance to make this right with me . If he does not then I WILL PUT HIM OUT OF THE PROP STUFF and will have his PP account removed and his ebay one to . So the above is telling me even if he has RIPED OFF and others so many you don't want him removed ? Thats BS . When you spend the money I have then you can say that but have you spent $2200 on POOP ( OK S#@T ) If Gabe wants to make this right he will do what I said I want in the emails I have sent him with a poop response from him .
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    Sep 19, 2010, 11:30 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #78

    I see art's point, and he has some good ones. However Gabe seems to be abusing the privilege. Also I'd like to see something done about him, letting him go as long as he's here and claiming to be trying to make it right and fix the problem is simply giving him more chances to profit from someone else. Despite his claims otherwise, the number of complaints against him prove that he clearly has no intention of making things right with anyone. Would you let the SFP guy proceed as long as he was making claims to fix things? There comes a time when you just have to put a stop to it. Letting these guys run rampant will eventually affect the reputation of the board. Maybe not a ban, but maybe a probation period, if issues continue during such, he's banned or some such. Or maybe there could just be a list of risky vendors?
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:05 AM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #79

    Hello ... I'm here, I will try to respond in the most concise possible all previous thread (I'll use the translator, so no one complains about my English) .... mostly I start to tell you a little about me, my name is Gabriel I have 36 years, living in Buenos Aires, Argentina .... I started collecting Star Wars items in the year 1998 ... I specializes in the vintage line only .-

    Over time I discovered I loved the props and now I have four costumes personal in my collection ... one Clone Trooper, Biker Scout, Green Hornet and an Imperial Officer.

    I started this venture to sell costumes in the year 2006 with other people here who shared the same taste, the business was not good ... but the passion for the work did not decrease but increase .... after these first attempts I decided to start Evolution in the year 2007 .... trying to specialize in soft parts, aluminum parts and small accessories .... in late 2008 to incorporate the line of armor made of plastic, I must admit that this line has brought me more pain and a head .... because they are delicate pieces that I'm posting from a remote location, some have had problems in the shipping ... there were delays in construction due to many requests and obviously some customers do not like the craftsmanship that one does .-

    That is why this line always try to keep in constant evolution to improve it, but I realized that it is better to make few quality pieces rather than several that may be objectionable .... Evolution currently has over 10 people working in all lines, each one does his best to meet customer demands ... I am the public face and who has the responsibility to solve problems and make everyone happy ...

    This year (and do not want to sound like an excuse) I had a few personal problems (which some might know and others not, is irrelevant to explain) ... in this period that people try to bring me things the best possible ... but some problems occurred and still not solved .-

    As far as I can tell my reputation, which currently operates more than 2000 transactions and I have 20 problems .... ideally, none at all, but sometimes some things are beyond my control (such as e) and those that are trying to solve my fault .-

    By way of explanation (and without giving any names) let you know that I have been scammed more than one time by any member of this forum and other customers who have initiated complaints with the promise of returning the parties, I will send a refund and repayment The parties never came, I once returned a box full of papers and pieces of wood ... hiceron more than once a claim with the credit card and lost items and money .... or only received one negative and blackmail for me to take him out in exchange for money or other items ... Please know how to handle many things on Ebay and the buyer has all the cards to win every time .... the seller always loses and can never say anything because it is not nice that someone who sells this accusing buyers be scams!

    I would love to find a post where I speak well of the more than 2000 guests who never had a problem and are happy with my items .. but we know it is unlikely .. and that the only thing that stands out are the bad things .-

    If I were a crook ... as someone hinted here ... you really think they could be doing since 2006? ... you really believe that only six would have negative (which I can explain and they will realize that they are malicious) .... you will believe that all 20 claims of paypal I had in my career they would not be solved ... and above all you believe if I were that kind of person would be writing here? think about it .-

    I am a working man trying to do the best and obviously trying to improve everything you need, I remember a while ago when I was criticized for what delayed my boba fett boots, take action on the issue and improve shipping now doing that within 30 days one can have their boots anywhere in the world ... 200 pairs were sold and I do not destructive criticism, it could also mean the soft parts and aluminum .-

    Last paragraph .... My problem with Mr Brown has become serious, I really did not want to tell the details of it and so far let me mess free here and elsewhere .... I do not think I put the details but if I keep forcing it makes ... I offered him more than one solution to which is turning a deaf ear at all times ... believe me it is my last public intecion do this and I'm doing everything possible to find a joint solution to the problem .-

    Anyone who wants to contact me can do it directly to my personal mail chapa59@gmail.com ...
    Whoever wants to know can see my facebook Gabriel Campos with the same email address

    Gracia s hope that the administrator takes any action in this post that has undermined the original topic

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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:48 AM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #80

    Gabe I told you in a email that I have your stuff boxed up and ready to go back to you UPS with a tracking # . But I will not do so until I get a FULL refund . As to you getting riped off before when you have given a refund your just going to have to trust me with this one just like I trusted you in sending the stuff I ordered .
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    Sep 20, 2010, 11:56 AM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #81

    Gabe told me that he cant refund me my money but he can . His account has been placed on hold until ALL disputes are solved . If he would just call them this will be solved.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 12:15 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #82

    Ok ... charli ... enought you are a really stupid !!!!! you only hear and read what they want ... I already have more than tired! ... with its lack of truth ... will notice that they have much free time ... because they do not use it more productively!
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    Sep 20, 2010, 1:31 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #83

    I shut your PP account Gabe just like I said I would . Sending me a emil asking me to not put more stuff up is not going to work . If you want this to end just call PP and give me a refund + shipping cost to you the this will be all over with me its that easy Gabe .
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    Sep 20, 2010, 6:29 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #84

    OK all I have made a small video of 3 parts I have . Gabe if your seeing this give me a erfund + shipping to you and I will give you your poop parts back . So here is the link to the 3 parts just to give you all a little treat . I will give Gabe a chance to make it right with me then he can have his PP account back . So tell me , is what I have poop ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d02UBduY0eM
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    Sep 20, 2010, 8:07 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #85

    Honestly you couldnt see the quality of the parts in the pictures?! REALLY? And why are you trying to get things repaired if your trying to send it back? Why did you repair ANYTHING? IMHO once you started fixing things its like buying some clothes and then wearing them and then returning them. As soon as you got it you should have put it all back in the box after taking pictures and then contacting evo. Then gone through PP or whatever but you started messing with it....also while on the whole subject of you wanting Fiberglass stuff u really dont want fg stuff its more likely to crack and break but whatever you want plastic is the way to go for armor parts.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 8:32 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #86

    After over a month w/o a email from Gabe what do you want me to do ? I sent him over 40 picks of the stuff I got but until I got on here then I get emails from him telling me to stop putting info up on here . . I will make better video for you if you wish OK . But like I said what can I do when he does not return emails . So yes I did send the bucket off to JUST SEE IF IT CAN BE FIXED AND IT CANT IN 5 PCS . I have a ? for you . Is what I got worth$2200.00 ? NOT and you know that . I did what I wanted to do is shut him down until he gives me a refund . His stuff is all packed up ready to go back to him by UPS now but I will not do so w/o a refund from him.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 8:47 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #87

    Bud you still bought the armor knowing what it looked like in the pics it looks nothing like what an actual set of Fett armor should look like. He may end up giving u the refund and all but you got what was pictured...maybe not in the condition it should have arrived in thats what insurance is for but still you got what was in the pics sucks you had to learn the hard way. But hopefully others can learn from this and not buy things that are far below standards
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    Sep 20, 2010, 8:53 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #88

    I don't know what you want me to do Fett 4 Real ?????He gave me 3 fake tracking #'s played with me for 72 days . I don't have the time to play with this SOB so that is why his PP account has been removed until he solves this with me . I don't know what you want from me OK . His stuff is ALL READY TO GO BACK TO HIM once i get the refund + shipping to him the this matter is over with me . You know how the old saying goes we love you AF guys , you give us a ride to the real action . JK bro OK so take it easy . . understand my point OK as to the $$$ I spent
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    Sep 20, 2010, 9:18 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #89

    I saw the products at...

    Evolution Props

    It does say all parts are made from high impact plastic, so you really can't complain that it's not reinforced fiberglass, unless of course he told you it was. You can see from some of the photos how thin it is, so you did get in fact what was shown on his page. There you have no claim, HOWEVER you do have a claim when it comes to the condition it was received. If it was broken/unuseable and he agreed to repair/refund $ and has failed to do so, that part of the claim is valid. However his demand that you send all the parts back before he refunds the money is ****. He would not send you the goods without having money in hand, why should you do the same in reverse, especially with so many people complaining that he has in the past kept both the money and the goods. What your video DOES do is provide undeniable proof that his goods are in fact poor and he is being dishonest in claiming that he has fixed the problem.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 9:19 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #90

    His picks have change on his page . Its nothing like I was looking @ bro OK . so he has changed ALLOT from the time I did my order OK . I went 72 days with 3 fake tracking #'s with him that is why his PP account is locked out now . I have sent PP the same 40 picks so now its up to him as in what he wants to do . He has changed his page BIG TIME from the time of my order to now . He told me 20 day till shipping and it was 72 days with 3 fake #'s OK . So the ball is up to him with this . Like I said its all ready to go back to him . The video was done on Sunday but I did get it back today just the same way I gave it from him so NOTHING has been fixed OK .
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    Sep 20, 2010, 9:30 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #91

    Gabe said it was reinforced with fiberglass not me . I don't trust him so that is why I want the funds first ....... So I will remove the clip and will deal with PP with this . Thanks for all your help with this .
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    Sep 20, 2010, 9:49 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #92

    You're complaining over 72 days? Anyone here dealt with SethB and his Pauldrons/Packs? DLaws and his stuff? I hate to derail this thread any further than it already has been, but you got your stuff in under three months. Considering some merchants/props, that's amazing turnaround.

    I won't touch the money issue, cause I know how much it sucks to lose out so much on something that falls apart (1988 Ford T-Bird, fixed weekly until the engine blew....literally), but I'll have to agree with whomever said it earlier that this could have been done in another thread so as to not hijack this one.


    But that's just my 2 cents.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:15 PM - #93

    I know I said I wouldn't post on this thread anymore (and it's gone so far off topic), but something is bothering me.
    Snoopy has said all the stuff is boxed up and ready to go, and the video was made Sunday. BUT in the video he says "I'll shut you down further," but the 1st mention of the PP being put on hold was today around noon (not his first post of the day).
    I don't have anything against either parties but it's a strange inconsistency.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:42 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #94

    Like I said he changed his picks from what I was looking @ . So I think I was trying to join the wrong group with my Boba so I have learned my lesson with this . Good day to all . Long live Star wars with you all good day . It is up to all of you but I will stop looking at this trend OK . O I did ask 2/3 x's on here about this seller but NEVER did get a response from ANY one of you . You should ask scout trooper about what I have he has had it in his hands . He will tell you what I have ok . I don't trust this seller ( Gabe ) that is why I want the money first OK and PP does agree with me on this . Once the funds are put back on my CC and confirmed then he will get the parts . I think PP has more money then we all have and I have their backing on this 100% .
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:47 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #95

    Quote Kthur said: View Post
    I know I said I wouldn't post on this thread anymore (and it's gone so far off topic), but something is bothering me.
    Snoopy has said all the stuff is boxed up and ready to go, and the video was made Sunday. BUT in the video he says "I'll shut you down further," but the 1st mention of the PP being put on hold was today around noon (not his first post of the day).
    I don't have anything against either parties but it's a strange inconsistency.
    His PP was stoped a week ago but I did not know that untill today when I called them when Gabe said he cant refund my money
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:55 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #96

    I'm done with this with all of you . This is now with me and PP OK . His account will still be on hold until I GET THE RESPONSE I WANT ...............
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:57 PM - #97

    Quote snoopytrooper said:

    His PP was stoped a week ago but I did not know that untill today when I called them when Gabe said he cant refund my money
    I figured it was something like that, but your video was Sunday and you found out today. I'll just drop it after saying that.
    Plus I added funds 3 days ago. Can you add funds to a held PP account? I've never ran into this before.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 11:12 PM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #98

    *makes a mental note to never do business with snoopytrooper*
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    Sep 21, 2010, 12:19 AM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #99

    Yes you can just like I found out today . I did not know that but you can . He just cant take it out of his PP account . Call them PP will tell you that .......So call them OK and the fraud dept will tell you that . PP cant stop ANYONE from sending him money but can stop him from getting it
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    Sep 21, 2010, 12:27 AM - Re: Evolution Props: The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly #100

    Quote slave1pilot said: View Post
    *makes a mental note to never do business with snoopytrooper*
    I have a maker making THE RIGHT parts now @ 1/2 the cost and he is from here on TDH . How do you think I got his PP account removed . It will be removed until I fell like letting him have it back .........DAHHHH slave 1 I have some power when I use my REAL name . Do any one of you think I would use my real name on any of this **** . lol to funny . I did what I wanted to do is remove his account until a refund is made in full the parts will be returned and PP is backing me up 100% on this .
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