Bountys Hunted
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Bravo Tim for taking on this mission! We await your results with barely concealed passion!
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Tim Allen
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hey guys...I lost a link to this ref page...I cant remember the name, but i remember that this page had some ref shot that were "uncut" pics of fett from ESB and and i think ROTJ...they might have some cape pics on there, if any of you have a clue as to what im talking about, please post the link thanks.... - Tim Allen
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Tyler Durden
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I think just about every pic of the ESB cape was on the REF CD. And there aren't that many. The best is probably the large profile shot of Fett on the Executor. I'll see if I can post the pics of the cape tonight.
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DL44 Blaster
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I personally went with the tannish color,and weathered it heavily with overspray black satin spray paint,.....it turned out fantastic IMHO. I've also been using a new reference source for ESB that I've been spreading around,and might be in a few of your basements/closets/storage boxes.Its the book that came with the Aurra Sing 12" action figure Masterpiece Edition.The book is called "Aurra Sing 'Dawn of the Bounty Hunters'".It has some better shots than we are used to seeing of publicity stills,and a few new ones,...these are all ESB that I am referring to.The cape pic is the one that is on the MOM CD-rom NOT "our" ref. CD,...of course it's ON "our" CD.You know the one I mean,where Fett is in the foreground ,and the two Bespin gaurds are in the background.That has good lighting and shows the cape in a tannish giving me the impression that it is indeed 'tannish'.
Steve
I've also been using a new reference source for ESB that I've been spreading around,and might be in a few of your basements/closets/storage boxes.Its the book that came with the Aurra Sing 12" action figure Masterpiece Edition.The book is called "Aurra Sing 'Dawn of the Bounty Hunters'".It has some better shots than we are used to seeing of publicity stills,and a few new ones,...these are all ESB that I am referring to.The cape pic is the one that is on the MOM CD-rom NOT "our" ref. CD,...of course it's ON "our" CD.You know the one I mean,where Fett is in the foreground ,and the two Bespin gaurds are in the background.That has good lighting and shows the cape in a tannish giving me the impression that it is indeed 'tannish'. Steve
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Tim Allen
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Yeh i saw that pic...im think im gonna use the "besin gaurd" pic as one ref. and theres another one on the CD where hes posing at an angle with the cape drawn over his shoulder...That pic I think shows the tannish color the best....To bad theres no close-ups on the fabric...It does look kinda Flannalish like Maxplangue said..But it almost looks thicker like the ROTJ cape.. Like a blinket or something...Might have to stich 2 flannal pieces together to get a better feel.....w'll see. If possiable DL, can you post those picture???
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Tim Allen
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http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=149822 heres the best ref pic ive seen so far.......
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Tim Allen
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Max i found a hudson bay blinket like yours....tell me if its close http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3203073804&category=13945
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Megalomaniac Mando
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Yeah, Tim. Good find. I remember telling you when we first chatted on AIM about there being blankets out there with that pattern. Hudson's Bay was my first search, followed by Whitney. Hudson's Bay Company (HBC)is well known to our Canadian brethren, and is still making blankets to this day. Unfortunately, I was unable to find these particular colors in the current models. As your post on the auction states, a vintage style would have to be used. I am not altogether keen on taking a perfectly good collectible and cutting it up when possible alternatives are available.
If there is any confusion in anyone's search for a blanket when the term "point blanket" is used, I will explain. When blankets were used as a form of trade item during the fur trade in North America, different sizes of blanket were available. This was noted by the amount of "points",and therefore value, displayed on the blanket. In your auction Tim, the three longer and one shorter lines appearing above the large stripe denote this as being a 3 1/2 point blanket (kinda on the small side). Common sizes are 4, 6, and 8 point blankets. Your looking at hundreds of dollars US for a new Hudson's Bay blanket.
Hope this helps. I haven't exhausted all my resources yet.
If there is any confusion in anyone's search for a blanket when the term "point blanket" is used, I will explain. When blankets were used as a form of trade item during the fur trade in North America, different sizes of blanket were available. This was noted by the amount of "points",and therefore value, displayed on the blanket. In your auction Tim, the three longer and one shorter lines appearing above the large stripe denote this as being a 3 1/2 point blanket (kinda on the small side). Common sizes are 4, 6, and 8 point blankets. Your looking at hundreds of dollars US for a new Hudson's Bay blanket.
Hope this helps. I haven't exhausted all my resources yet.
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Ego
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Well, the colours on it seem to be pretty good if you ask me . . . the only thing that "concerns" me is the placement of the stripe. It looks WAY too close to the edge of the blanket . . . especially when you compare it to the picture you posted over on village photos.
Jer
Jer
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Bountys Hunted
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It sure does look mighty close!!
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Ego
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Max . . . is that a wool blanket that you have?
Reason I ask is . . . one of the guys here in the office actually worked at a fashion design house . . specializing in fabrics.
I've just showed him all the pics of fett, fett with the cape, and the pics of the blanket and he said he's virtually positive that that blanket isn't the cape. He's saying that knowing how certain fabrics drape and fold and things like that, he's almost positive that the cape is not that blanket - even if the colours are just about bang on.
His educated guess was a fleece. I suggest flannel . . he said that it could be, but his best guess is a fleece.
Just his 2 cents anyway . . thought I'd throw it in.
Jer
Reason I ask is . . . one of the guys here in the office actually worked at a fashion design house . . specializing in fabrics.
I've just showed him all the pics of fett, fett with the cape, and the pics of the blanket and he said he's virtually positive that that blanket isn't the cape. He's saying that knowing how certain fabrics drape and fold and things like that, he's almost positive that the cape is not that blanket - even if the colours are just about bang on.
His educated guess was a fleece. I suggest flannel . . he said that it could be, but his best guess is a fleece.
Just his 2 cents anyway . . thought I'd throw it in.
Jer
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MaxPlague
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Very good points. Yep, the Hudson's Bay blanket is wool. Oddly enough, looking at the ref pics I kinda guessed it might be something different for exactly that reason...it just doesn't seem to drape like a wool blanket (that's why my blanket is still uncut and intact ).
Some pics make me guess flannel, while some pics look more rigid like a stiffer fabric, and yet some look like a thinner material...AAAARGH!
).Some pics make me guess flannel, while some pics look more rigid like a stiffer fabric, and yet some look like a thinner material...AAAARGH!
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Megalomaniac Mando
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Not wanting to come off as a self-proclaimed expert here, but I have been using, and been exposed to, nearly every type, weave, thickness and quality of woolen blanket that is readily available. Aside from animal hides, wool blankets are the only historically acceptable bedding for my other hobby.
Because of this, I am here to say that the thickness of blankets runs the gamut from hand-woven and very thick, to military surplus from warmer countries and hence very thin. The drape and hang evident in the pics is very much possible with the thinner blankets. Although totally wrong color-wise, an old US surplus blanket would provide that EXACT same drape/hang/crease.
I am STILL on the case, and confident I can find a suitable answer to the cape mystery. I just need to wait until Spring, when the gatherings start again.
Because of this, I am here to say that the thickness of blankets runs the gamut from hand-woven and very thick, to military surplus from warmer countries and hence very thin. The drape and hang evident in the pics is very much possible with the thinner blankets. Although totally wrong color-wise, an old US surplus blanket would provide that EXACT same drape/hang/crease.
I am STILL on the case, and confident I can find a suitable answer to the cape mystery. I just need to wait until Spring, when the gatherings start again.
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DL44 Blaster
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MMM,the fabrics I used to have my custom blaket made were chosen for the reasons of thickness as you mentioned.I too thought it looked thin since the way it hung,and the creases it made from merely draping over the shoulder.
Tim,the pic you posted is the one in the Action Figure Archive,and is part of about 5 taken in the Bespin hallway for production stills.I unfortunately don't have the ability to scan/post pics due to me not having a scanner,or digital camera Maybe someday I'll move into the 21st century.
Bespin being a lit,and white background it would have cast some nice lighting thus the pics there showing the "tannish" of the blanket being it's true color.
Steve
Tim,the pic you posted is the one in the Action Figure Archive,and is part of about 5 taken in the Bespin hallway for production stills.I unfortunately don't have the ability to scan/post pics due to me not having a scanner,or digital camera
Maybe someday I'll move into the 21st century.Bespin being a lit,and white background it would have cast some nice lighting thus the pics there showing the "tannish" of the blanket being it's true color.
Steve
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