Damaged jet pack appears in RotJ SE before skiff scene

I was just watching RotJ Special Edition when I caught another spoof. In the scene where Bousch (sp?) says she wants "fifty-thousand, no less" for Chewbacca bounty, Jabba knocks C-3PO over. They then pan over to Fett who strokes Rystall's chin then walks away. If you slow-mo that scene, you will see that Boba's jet pack already has the damage than Han does to it on the skiff. If I had the software to do screen captures, I'd post it, but I'm sure somewhere else can do this for me.

Has anyone else ever noticed this?

Yeah I was talking to Tyler Durden about it the other day kinda funny.

Lee

just wondering...has anyone built the damaged pack yet?i think that would be pretty **** cool.

Here's the real one.

Man, where did you find that pic? It's great!

Lucas Archieves, where it still probably sits today.

Even funnier is the fact that the damaged jet pack can be seen in the ORIGINAL ROTJ, before the "Han incident," when Fett has his back to the camera firing his lasers.

A bad omen, indeed!

Since you can do screen captures, Tyler, do you mind posting both those scenes?

::edit:: thanks

Absolutely! I'll do some capping tonight.

Edit:: Photos added

Sorry for the poor quality. There was a lot of motion in the scenes and/or darkness. Also, the source material is only so-so.



This scene is in the original version of Jedi, and it shows Fett getting up from the Skiff after our friend Nikto fired on the Skiff while Fett had Luke in his whipcord. The cap takes place just moments before Han sticks the vibro axe into Fett's back. Also of interesting note, the damage to the back is already there before Han hits him with the axe!



And here is the damaged pack making it's appearance in the SE Jedi on the SE Suit:

Man o' man you guys have sharp eye's. I had never even seen the damaged pack before I joined TDH and only actually saw that pic a while back and had never seen it in my many viewings of ROTJ. But now that I know where to look.

I'm with you TK. These guys never cease to amaze me on the things they pick up on.

Wes

Geez, no wonder it sent him flying into the side of the sail barge, it was already damaged.

do u think it was supposed to already be damaged? And that it why such a weak strike from the axe set it off?

i think it would be sweet if someone tried to replicate the damaged pack for thier RTOJ suit.

Freekk, GREAT IDEA!!! LOL

Someone could show up with Sarlaac slime and a blasted tentacle wrapped around them. LOL!!!

Hmmmmmm.............[img]images/smiles//icon4.gif[/img]
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Just when you thought this topic had covered everything it was set out to, I found yet another little nugget of interest in one of the pics.


Have you noticed it yet? The beacon isn't lit up. You can tell from the Archieve picture I posted earlier that the damaged jet pack has a solid beacon (not even painted around the middle), but it made me think that I don't recall ever seeing the beacon lit in RotJ. Now the jet pack used at MoM and AoSW has a hollowed top on it (unlike the damaged one), but I still don't recall ever seeing it lit up in the movie.

Seems like he had a power shortage in ROTJ. His chest lights weren't lit up either.

Well at least we know the chest lights did work in Jedi.

TK3130 wrote:
Seems like he had a power shortage in ROTJ. His chest lights weren't lit up either.

Hey Tyler no fair! I thought it was decided that the lights weren't on at all. Then you come up with that Photoshopped pic. That's not right.

TK3130 wrote:
Hey Tyler no fair! I thought it was decided that the lights weren't on at all. Then you come up with that Photoshopped pic. That's not right.

I know it sounds funny, but actually the chest lights were lit in the Jabba's Palace scene, just that for some reason, it's difficult to see them in ROTJ. I believe that the chest light display was the same, except that in this case (just like most of ESB pics) we lack of info on the chest lights, in comparison with ESB.

Robert

Boba Freekk wrote:
i think it would be sweet if someone tried to replicate the damaged pack for thier RTOJ suit.

Your WISH is my COMMAND.



The contrast is really high on that second set of pics, making the colors look a bit more clowny than they really are.

I can set you up with a kit of one of these. Just email me impervium@aol.com

sweeeet

Cool, well done!

I didn't know about those jet pack greeblies either...!

Nice job Cris, Pack looks Great!

BobaFettish wrote:
Just when you thought this topic had covered everything it was set out to, I found yet another little nugget of interest in one of the pics.


Have you noticed it yet? The beacon isn't lit up. You can tell from the Archieve picture I posted earlier that the damaged jet pack has a solid beacon (not even painted around the middle), but it made me think that I don't recall ever seeing the beacon lit in RotJ. Now the jet pack used at MoM and AoSW has a hollowed top on it (unlike the damaged one), but I still don't recall ever seeing it lit up in the movie.

is not the beacon, the light comes from other place, maybe from the wall check this pic
<img src=http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/Jet Pack/rotj_damage_jp.jpg>

I will have to re-read the Tale of the Bounty Hunter tonight, but that damage on the pack could've come from when Boushh, 4Lom and Zuckuss ambushed Fett. There was a fight above Tatoonie before Fett was able to deliver Solo to Jabba.

That could be where the damage came from and why it appeared damaged before the sarlaac and why Han was able to set it off so easily as someone else mentioned, but if that is the case how come it worked so well getting from the sail barge down to the skiff?

lordfett wrote:
...that damage on the pack could've come from when Boushh, 4Lom and Zuckuss ambushed Fett...

...how come it worked so well getting from the sail barge down to the skiff?

for the first i have the same thoughts, and for the 2nd
check the damage, its no located on the fuel pipes
maybe for that the JP works

DarthVader1 wrote:
I know it sounds funny, but actually the chest lights were lit in the Jabba's Palace scene, just that for some reason, it's difficult to see them in ROTJ.

Ohhh.... you are gonna have to prove that one DV1. From what I can see, it appears that the chest lights were lit in all the indoor (no skiff) RotJ publicity scenes but not in the actual film...

As with what Tyler posted above here are three publicity photos I have, all showing the lights lit, but I challenge you to show me a screencap of the lights lit, from the movie. There are a number of times Fett is in relative darkness and the lights should be obvious but they simply don't appear to be there. If I am wrong, I'll be glad to be corrected but I don't think so...

On a side note, isn't it interesting that Jeremy has amost the exact same pose in image 2 and 3?

Brak's but the pics 1 and 2 comes from the movie
sorry if im wrong but i think they are screencaps
check this fullsized pics of the 1 and 2

click to view the fullsize

secol_FETT wrote:
Brak's but the pics 1 and 2 comes from the movie
sorry if im wrong but i think they are screencaps
check this fullsized pics of the 1 and 2

click to view the fullsize

Pic 1 definatly does not come from the movie, you don't see Boba standing next to Bossk anywhere like that in ROTJ, so that one is a publicity shot.

Lynn

Secol, as Lynn said, they are publicity shots. They are meant to look like they came from the movie but you will not find a screencap of that quality.

.::EDIT::.
Ok i take the screen caps, i cant see lights, my copies of the movie are divx files, so the quality isn't the better :o
so here ya go

<img src=http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/Jet Pack/bscap27.jpg>
<img src=http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/Jet Pack/bscap28.jpg>

this are from the Boush part
original
<img src=http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/Jet Pack/bscap24.jpg>
reversed
<img src=http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/Jet Pack/bscap24b.jpg>
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but the 2nd pics is from the movie
maybe a cut part
check the jawa...its in motion
if you see ROTJ the camera angle is different but the scene is the same
i just check this last night, i will try to take a snapshot.
im very sure that second comes from the set in production

srry to burst all you costumers bubbles, but if you have or sell a ROTJ jet pack it is mostlikly inacurite. there is a huge gouge in bobas jet pack! it can only be seen if you watch the sceans in slow motion. i origionaly noticed it in the newly added scean where boba toches rystals chin and thought it was a newly added detail, but! if you play the scean that han hits bobas jet pack (origional scean) and play that in slow you can see it there to. what i have seen of ROTJ jet packs, none have this drastic detail. check it your self. your best bet of seeing it is in the widescreen version of the dvd's. dont bother with this change in your jet pack if it doesnt bother you. its no big deal.

by the way I know I suck at gramer.

Check out this thread with some more info...

http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=5710&forum=6

by the way I already broght this topic up at STARWARS.com and was pretty much told to FVCK OFF.

nice pics of the damaged jet pack. i guse this has already been broght up. srry lol

hmmm, isnt the new scenes where he makes a walk by have the jet pack without any damage?

acutaly ill check right now.....................

if you mean the quick scean that he walks by in then i cant tell, but if you mean the scean when he touches rystals cheek then yes it is in it.

i think the lights are on in rotj but i looks like they forgot to change the battery from esb

Two places where I cant see for sure if the jet pack is damage, is when He takes off from the deck of the sail barge, and when He slams into the side of it and rolls into the sarlacc.

And something that always got to me, if Boba Fett was a seasoned veteran warrior, why why why would he confront a jedi in hand to hand combat. Obviously he went in to kill luke because he had his blaster aimed right at him, why didnt he burn him to a crisp right there? He didnt fire and darts, from his knee's or shoes.

And why would He take his eyes off of chewbacca and han, i mean chewie almost killed him in SotE....if anything in the trilogy needs fixing it that scene, Boba looks like a rookie.

cal196 wrote:
And something that always got to me, if Boba Fett was a seasoned veteran warrior, why why why would he confront a jedi in hand to hand combat. Obviously he went in to kill luke because he had his blaster aimed right at him, why didnt he burn him to a crisp right there? He didnt fire and darts, from his knee's or shoes.

Because Lucas was killing-off the character. Boba was MEANT to die, which is why he does so many uncharacteristic things. Had the scene been written as a "real fight", odds are the outcome would have played-out much differently...

It probably really twerked George when the fans demanded that Fett live and they brought him back to life with the novel where he escapes the Sarlacc and is nursed back to health by Dengar.

Fett: The character that Lucas couldn't kill!

If you listen to the DVD comentery george lucas didnt know that Boba was gunna become a major fav of the fans other wise he would have made it a real battle. he also says he thought of puting in a scean with him crawlin out of the pit but he thought it wouldnt blend in to well with the film.

PS. I HATE BOBAS NEW VOICE!!!!!!!!

Oh man that would have been awesome to see Fett blast out of the sarlacc. That interview confirms Boba Fett didnt die in the sarlacc like hte previously stated, to even mention the fact He was thinking of putting it in is proof enough for me.

What I think would have been perfect is this.

When chewbacca is flying around waiting for clearance Admiral Piett is standing there and Vader askes' where is that shuttle going" after that diolage it would have been just perfect to see Piett turn around only to be facing Boba head on as Piett has to take a step back with his mouth gaped remembering him from before, Fett maybe sporting brand new armor, or the old esb armor.

Boba then turns to Vader and says "I followed Skywalker as you instructed" (Indicating He didnt want to kill Luke as wasnt really working for Jabba but Vader the whole time and was waiting on him at Jabba's Palace) and hands him some kinda decive as vader looks at its screen then vader looks down like He does and says "Good, the Emperor will be most pleased, soon you will be wealthy beyond measure"

Boba "Just Kill Han solo, and we will call it even

Vader "As you wish"

end scene-

Later when the emperor says he knew they where coming he could have held up the same device. Would have been cool imo.

I have to agree with those of you who believe the jet pack
damage occured prior to the ROTJ storyline. The damaged
jet pack is so visually distinct that it had to be a deliberate
costuming decision to use it in every scene... not an error
or oversight. Are there any scenes where it's NOT damaged?

Only scene where you can see a damage free jet pack is when he is standing beside Jabba, Jabba says (Silly Jedi) or something and R2 rolls by and boba looks down at him the jet pack is perfect.

It also looks like the JP may even be damaged when he takes off from the sail barge to join the fight on the skiff.

It is blurry, but you can see a blob where the damage wouild be if it was there.

Maybe on of the screen cap guru's can help.

Braks can you help with this one???

Lynn

Strange that "they" as in LFL ,would have Boba wearing a damaged jet pack before he has the damage occur. They obviously went through alot more work to make a new one and it isn't until the last scene with Boba that Han damages it. Wierd?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?

DL44 Blaster wrote:
Strange that "they" as in LFL ,would have Boba wearing a damaged jet pack before he has the damage occur. They obviously went through alot more work to make a new one and it isn't until the last scene with Boba that Han damages it. Wierd?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?

Honestly, I'm starting to think it was meant to be there before Han ever got to it.
I went through every scene that has Boba showing the back of his pack where you can see the damage and the only place it looks undamaged is in the spot Cal196 mentions above.

Lynn

There appears to be a dark stripe on the pack just before Fett leaves the Sail Barge but I feel pretty confident in saying it is NOT the damaged pack. Perhaps a stunt pack with simulated damage... See for yourself:

Awesome grab!!!
Thanks!!
I tend to agree, it dosn't look damaged now, just simulated damage.

When you look at it on pause and it is soooo small, it looked like the damaged pack.

Thanks bud,
Lynn

Well with that new screen grab it looks pretty clear that the pack was supposed to be damaged long before Han hits it...which is why he's wearing the damaged pack in ROTJ SE but not ANH SE.

After reviewing the scenes on the DVD, I have concluded that Fett's jet pack is damaged when Nikto fires on the Skiff trying to smoke Luke, but instead hits close to Fett and knocks him over. Or at least that was the original intent in Jedi.

Right after Fett falls down from the Nikto blast, you can see a cloud of black smoke move from directly behind him and then over his helmet. Every subsequent scene shows the damaged pack. Prior to that scene in the OT version of Jedi, the jet pack is undamaged; the clearest view is when Fett notices R2 high-tailing it out of the Sail Barge.

So, it would appear that Han hits the now exposed "internals" of Fett's jet pack and causes a spark similar to jumpstarting a car, which causes the jet pack to ignite, and well, the rest is history...

So then that's George's way of explaining how Solo takes him out. With people complaining, he added that. Same thing he did with Jango. Always adding stuff.

I bet when the first three movies get ~visionized~ because they didnt have the technology Jango will last 5x longer in the arena.

TK3130 wrote:
So then that's George's way of explaining how Solo takes him out. With people complaining, he added that. Same thing he did with Jango. Always adding stuff.

I'm not following you, GL added what??

What Dan mentioned in his post, Boba Fett getting taken out by Han hitting Fetts pack while filming the ROTJ was filmed in the 80's before the SE's ever came out.

GL added nothing to that scene for the SE or DVD's.
Lynn

My mistake. In reading Tylerdurden's post, I thought it said SE where it says OT. I thought he added that like he did the sparks for Jango's jet pack.

Or.. and i could be going out on a limb here... Maybye, just maybe they never expected the movie to be studied in detail, frame by frame by fans 20 odd years or so later...

Wow... talk about thread necromancy!

Hey all,

To elaborate on Tyler's post, when Nikto fires the cannon, Fett has luke trapped in the lanyard, but he still deflects the blast with his saber, causing something behind Fett to explode, thereby causing said damage. As far as the SE caps with the damaged pack; that's just poor planning—They have the wrong helmet anyway! And why in the ANH SE is he wearing the ROTJ suit? Poor, poor planning!

Hey I forgot about this thread... Well, I was planning on doing this but had a question so i figured I'll ask the source, Jeremy himself!! When I got to see him at Star Wars Weekends I asked him the question about his JP as to wether it was damaged or not. His simply reply was "that thing weighed a ton, every little bit off helped the back" So I guess that it was there for the ROTJ shooting so that way he could have some less poundage off his back. As to why it is there according to the SW story...??? I am not even sure George knows. LOL.