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Creating the Jumpsuit or Coveralls

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    Merged: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?

    I know that S1 gloves are easily lighten the color by damp them a little and putting them in the sun for a while. I'm in the process of sewing my own Jumpsuit but I haven't decided which material to use.
    I was wondering if cotton and twill can be lighten like S1 gloves do. I know that twill is a thicker material, like for work coveralls, but I'm looking for something more comfortable and cool to wear (plus the armor, vest, and JP harness...will be pretty hot), besides that I could weather them as well. If someone knows about fabrics and the characteristics of them, give me some feedback here.


    Robert



  2. #52

    Merged: Re: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?

    It is definately cotton or a cotton blend of some kind with an almost denim look to it. I've yet to find THE fabric, but it's out there somewhere waiting to be found. Here's some pics of it.



  3. #53

    Merged: Re: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?

    IMHO, you'd be better off, as well as it being easier, to match the texture of the fabric rather than the color. You can easily dye the fabric if it's a cotton. I don't think anyone has found the correct fabric in both texture AND color yet. Anybody?

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    I think so too. When you imagine it you think it's baggy, but the pictures really show it to be much tighter. It just looks bulky and baggy from the pouches and the way the thighs bulge out from the cinch of the knees.

    I say it's definitely more fit than baggy.

    Phil

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    Merged: Re: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?

    Go twill--I found an entire bolt of light grey twill fabric at my Super Walmart in Omaha, Nebraska. I think is was $2 per yard--I got about 13 yards on the bolt. Twill has the right texture, and it has an awesome weight--kind of like denim. The bolt I found is just a slight shade darker than that vest fabric we all just got. Let me know if you have any questions.

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    Merged: Re: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?

    Great advice, MMM. I Think sometimes we get caught up in searching for items/fabrics that fit the entire bill of the real deal. When in fact, some of the found items on the suit have been incredibly altered from it's original form.

    Again, I wouldn't look for a color that matches what you seen on screen, because it doesn't exsist. The real suits were dyed-- most likely from white/light grey material. Even the MOM suit has heavy evidence of BLUE dye. Focus on the correct material/texture.


    MegalomaniacalMandalore wrote:

    IMHO, you'd be better off, as well as it being easier, to match the texture of the fabric rather than the color. You can easily dye the fabric if it's a cotton. I don't think anyone has found the correct fabric in both texture AND color yet. Anybody?

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    The jumpsuit is one part I've always advised people to try and get done locally to ensure a tailor-type fit rather than mail-ordering and hoping it does the job.

    Back when I had very little costuming experience, I made the mistake of ordering a complete outfit. The jumpsuit was too small in places, and the vest was huge. I often wondered if they didn't confuse my order with someone elses. There were sooo many things wrong with the costume, and I always wished I had been more patient and just made an effort to learn earlier on how to do some stuff myself.

    I pitched the vest, the gloves, and pretty much started building up from scratch. Kept the jumpsuit, but it was "heavily" modified.


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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    I think it's just the way the jumpsuit is fitted. The torso and arms need to be a bit tailored to fit correctly, the arms need to be tapered so they don't bunch up under the gauntlets, and the torso needs to fit snug, not tight, but certainly not baggy. Now for the legs, I bet these are literly straight legged, the thigh fits, but there isn't much of a taper, if there is one at all, so it seems to be baggy at the ankle ... at least that is what it looks like to me

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    You definately want a fitted look. It could make or break the costume in my opinion if you are going to wear it. Best suits I have seen were all custom tailored.

    You don't want it too baggy in areas, like the butt. I don't think it would be very becomming for Fett to look like he's carrying around a load in his pants.

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    Merged: Re: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?

    Guys, I went today for an hour-away-Hobby Lobby/Fabrics store next to it, to find out that they had NOTHING similar to the sample material I had in my hand.

    MMM: Thanks for the feedback, and besides that cotton is easier to dye and it's cooler (specially in the summer time).

    PF: Thanks to you too for the note as well on the twill, which I think and believe is a cotton blend and it's used for work jumpsuits. Now my question is...can it be dyed or bleached? I found the material, but it was in a darker grey color, and someone else has it in the same gray shade. Please, IF YOU OR SOMEONE KNOWS, LET ME KNOW.

    TylerD: I really appreciate your accurate points of view, which makes me feel better and secure at this point, and with all your comments, I'll be looking for the fabric once I make sure and get the answers I need so far.

    Robert


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    Merged: Re: Jumpsuit - cotton or twill...?


    DarthVader1 wrote:

    ..... one fabric that it's the same color, but not as thick as the one I have as sample (besides, more expensive too, cause the "$1.00 X yard" have more quality and they were the same thickness as my sample than the one they had which cost $2.60 the yard. BUMMER!!!
    I'd gladly pay $2.60/yard (or more) for the correct fabric. The correct vest fabric was $16.00/yd.

    phantomfett, do you happen to remember the name of the fabric you bought, or even better, still have the roll & label that it came on?

  12. #62

    Merged: For those of you who have gone the DICKIES jumpsuit route...

    ...can you post pics of your completed suit? I know the Dickies jumpsuit isn't very accurate but I dont have the cash or the resources to have one made. I'm very curious as to how they look on a completed Fett. ESB or ROTJ, it doesn't matter.

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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

    This is mine. Standard gray Dickies with 7 packs of Rit color remover:

    NO DISINTEGRATIONS! (our 501st group is CRAZY!)


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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

    Actually, the RIT dye remover isn't that hard to use, not like actual dyeing because you don't need to mix colors. I've used a package of this stuff after messing up on my girth color. Stinks really bad, but gets the job doneuke.

    Ely

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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

    Here's my Dickies suit. No dye, but a lot of weathering and some fading in the sun.

    DV1-To get the pocket fabric right, you've got to buy two jumpsuits. One for the base suit, and the other gets all but completely used up to make the pockets, pouches, and sleeves.


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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

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    I went to the Red Kap site, and it didn't give me a clue of jumpsuits or coveralls in their search engine. Do anyone has a link to the Red Kap jumpsuits?

    Try this:
    http://www.allseasonsuniforms.com/rk....htm#coveralls

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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

    I was looking now at the Red Kap brand at the website I was given, and the 100% cotton coveralls doesn't have the color we're looking for (but they're almost half the price from the Dickies, though). Besides, they have the cotton twill blend, but still don't have the right color, unless you're looking for an ESB version, that they have a Charcoal Grey (still not bad).
    Now...if anyone went on the Red Kap way (which I think GATER did) ...which color or which one did you went with and what did you do with it???

    Robert

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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

    I bought the post man blue but that was before I knew anything about the costume and was referencing off of some of the do it yourself sites and recommendations. I will be stripping it white with RIT. Id go with the white and dye it. there is a thread around here on the dye's (RIT) to use.

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    Merged: Re: those who have gone the "dickies" route for thier jumpsuit..

    For my jango, I used the postman blue coverall and rit dyed it with purple. I will probably dye it once more to get it the way I think it should be. I also had to add the outer "sleeves" and sew the "crimp" in each of the sleeve biceps. Does that make sense? Anyway, it turned our really well. I'll post some pics in a couple of days.

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    IMHO, if you're of a 'standard' size, you could try going for a Military Flightsuit type sizing.

    I was going custom and went the route of a CWU-27P in 36 Short. Fits perfectly, plus it gives me an incentive NOT to put on any more weight.

    Hope this helps.

    Stay safe.

    Tim.

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    fitted would be the way to go, my jumpsuit is definitly more fitted, its tighter thru the whole body, and upper legs...the lower legs are a little baggier....

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    Dickies coveralls are ordered based on *chest* size - not *waist* size. I have a 44" chest, I ordered a "44", and it fits perfectly. I modded the crap out of it, and now it looks as good, to me, as any of the "custom" ones I've seen at events, and I'm REALLY picky about details. I paid $32 + shipping for the coveralls, and after adding pockets and miscellaneous "features", I'm sure I have less than $50 in it... Probably more like $45, which IMO is darn cheap for a suit. I washed it with 6 packages of Rit color remover, and got it lightened-up to the right shade of "ROTJ gray" too.

    Just my thoughts.

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    Merged: Re: jumpsuit fit

    For my custom Mandalore, I ordered a size 40x31 Dickies Red Short Sleeve Coverall. It was $23.50 + shipping. I haven't gotten it yet so we'll see how it fits.

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    Merged: Merged: Merged: Re: New Fett-jumpsuit help

    Does anyone have apic of either the RED KAP or BIG MAC jumpsuit?
    Are they 100% cotton (dyeable)? Or do they come in grey already?

    Thanks

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    Merged: Merged: Merged: Re: New Fett-jumpsuit help

    Check Here for the Red Kap suits. There are 100% cotton ones, as well as others. For others, bottom of page.

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