Anyone else pissed about lack of MC boots??

Megatron -- so where do you draw the line? 1 Month late? 2 Months late? 3 months late? Do you just willingly give your money to people, and just say "weehoo, there's my 200 bucks, just send it when you want to." and then you can be really surprised when it comes? I can't play that way. I won't.

If someone says "You'll have boots in 3 months." Then they should be able to back it up. OR in 3 months, if the boots aren't done, say "Eep. No boots. Give me 1 more month." Or something to that effect. Don't ignore customers, or tell them you'll update them in 1 week, and then not send them anything. That's what happened to me.

If you say 3 months, and you find out it takes longer, don't say 3 months, say 4 months. Or 5. Whatever. But if I have my plans set for 5 months, and they come in 4 months, I'd be happier than a pig in poo.

It's all about TIME MANAGEMENT. People in business are taught that when giving a deadline, or approximating a delivery date, ADD 1/5th - 1/3rd the time on to it, just to give yourself a leeway. Then, if you need the extra time, due to a screw up, you look clean, because no one knew the difference. If, however, you come in on time (or what your customers think is EARLY), you look like golden sunshine.

It is a hobby, yes. But that is no excuse for cruddy business practices. I'm not saying Mark or anyone else has them (although I know some people do), I'm just saying there are ALOT of apologists around here who think they can just tell us (who paid but didn't get their stuff) to shut up because "We're all brothers and this is just a hobby."

I assure you, any time 200 dollars is involved, it stops being a hobby, and for a short time becomes a business.

So let's act like adults and do business well. Vendors, give yourselves some extra time to complete projects. COMMUNICATE to buyers, even if just to say "Sorry, nothing today, will let you know ASAP...", etc.

-gh0stdevil
 

gh0stdevil wrote:

Megatron -- so where do you draw the line? 1 Month late? 2 Months late? 3 months late? Do you just willingly give your money to people, and just say "weehoo, there's my 200 bucks, just send it when you want to." and then you can be really surprised when it comes? I can't play that way. I won't.

If someone says "You'll have boots in 3 months." Then they should be able to back it up. OR in 3 months, if the boots aren't done, say "Eep. No boots. Give me 1 more month." Or something to that effect. Don't ignore customers, or tell them you'll update them in 1 week, and then not send them anything. That's what happened to me.

If you say 3 months, and you find out it takes longer, don't say 3 months, say 4 months. Or 5. Whatever. But if I have my plans set for 5 months, and they come in 4 months, I'd be happier than a pig in poo.

It's all about TIME MANAGEMENT. People in business are taught that when giving a deadline, or approximating a delivery date, ADD 1/5th - 1/3rd the time on to it, just to give yourself a leeway. Then, if you need the extra time, due to a screw up, you look clean, because no one knew the difference. If, however, you come in on time (or what your customers think is EARLY), you look like golden sunshine.

It is a hobby, yes. But that is no excuse for cruddy business practices. I'm not saying Mark or anyone else has them (although I know some people do), I'm just saying there are ALOT of apologists around here who think they can just tell us (who paid but didn't get their stuff) to shut up because "We're all brothers and this is just a hobby."

I assure you, any time 200 dollars is involved, it stops being a hobby, and for a short time becomes a business.

So let's act like adults and do business well. Vendors, give yourselves some extra time to complete projects. COMMUNICATE to buyers, even if just to say "Sorry, nothing today, will let you know ASAP...", etc.

-gh0stdevil

am waiting to for the boots too..and this in not a business so those rules will NEVER apply...all you had to do was ask him with an email after two weeks, since you did not get a reply. That is all I did. He has no control over the factory..he has to wait on them. I spent more money then $200 and have waited longer. We are lucky he ever even start this. He did not have to and it looks like no one else has. Why do you think so many people do not ever try to do this? He wants to send them now but if he doesn't have them then he can't send the can he.

ITs a hobby nothing more..they are things- nothing more..
enjoy life and be happy that you have the chance to any of these things and be able to do them...You will get your boots like of us waitting also.

This thread should be dump since its not helping anyone.
 
Not for nothing but when money is paid for a product or service... IT'S BUSINESS. Hobby or no hobby. Wasn't this arugement settled a while ago? I thought that MC came here admitted to and apologized for his lack of communication.
 
Exactly my point, webchief. Money = business.

And yes, this thread can be locked down, deleted, whatever. I've been told by MC he'll give me more updates soon. Haven't heard anything from him since his last post here, but...*shrug* Not alot I can do about it at this point.

-gd
 
when it comes to business we can all take a note from Scotty (of *gasp* Star Trek)

Geordi: "I told the Capt. I'd have this done in six hours."

Scotty: (conspiratorially) "How long would it really take ya?

Geordi: "Six hours."

Scotty: (horrified) "aww man, ya din'a tell him how long it would REALLY take ya?" "How can ya expect to be thought of...as a MIRACLE worker, if ya tell him how long it would REALLY take ya?"


So I do have to support Ghostdevil on this one, hell even Mark chimed in on his behalf! Hobby or not if someone sends you money, any amount really, you should take the time to let them know if a deadline won't be met. Regardless of who's fault that missed deadline is. And it's not a matter of sending countless emails to all interested parties. Just send out a notice to everyone at once. FYI these will be awhile longer and it will be out of my hands.

And of course, pad your deadline to cover yourself.

PHil
 
I was a little upset about the fact that they haven't come yet, but i have patience and i am really glad i even got a chance to order these. because if you all remember he wasn't even going to do the run because he didn't have enough buyers, so be thankful you even got the chance to order them when you did! ;)
 
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