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    Feb 15, 2010, 5:10 AM - Accuracy Vs Wearablity #1

    Forgive me if there is a thread already.. I used search and found nada...

    Being new to Fett... I wanted to know what you all think. I have finished many builds, some good some not so. 3 diffrent sets of Stormtrooper armor, a Biker Scout, Royal Guard and Maul... Then there is Vader. The obsession.

    I have decided to just focus on Vader and Stormtroopers... Sold all the rest. Now I have the opportunity to do Fett.

    Of all the costumes of Star Wars, Fett stands out to me as one of the harder ones to pull off. Paintwork, build and such place it in a realm of its own. Being the GML of the JG, we have no Fett's active so I have never had to do the homework so to speak. Here I am though. Reading and building.

    I like to push the accuracy envelope, however not all things accurate troop well. For example, my accurate wool cape and robe for Vader, not the eBay ones, are friggin heavy. I deal, but man... Takes it out of me. I have pushed Vader to the highest level I feel comfortable trooping. I only really have to upgrade the leather suit and the gloves. Currently no gloves exist better and no suit is made for an approachable price.

    What parts of Fett can you slide on and still pull it off? This is a costume and not a prop to me, so it has to be worn. What works, what doesn't?

    On a second thought, what parts that are accurate but expensive are not worth the time? For example...

    Vader's shin guards. The plastic ones most readily available are great to troop. I am sure there are more accurate ones in fiberglass, but cost and material would lend them to damage and a loss. Plastic works. Any thing like this in Fett?

    I am pushing for an ESB as for to me this is the Fett that I remember the most and it will complement my TK and Vader as they are ESB.

    Thoughts?
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    Feb 15, 2010, 9:12 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #2

    I am new to the TDH too Before I kick off my ROTJ Fett project, I spent hours and hours of reading here at TDH, and used the the "Search" function a lot. I created my checklist and notebook and prepared to take a year to complete this one. There are truly a lot of masters ready to help to make your fett both accurate and wearable... ( but b4 I came to TDH, i could never think of an accurate fett mission possible ). So i guess you can put your thoughts out here... Please also do not forget to get to the cargo hold area for those nice runs of perfect stuff. Good luck to you, buddy By the way, I would also like to take this oppotunity to thanks Booboo Fett for the nice ammo belt, Sonik for the girth belt, woodman for the cape and braids, Jango Wes for the JW boots ...Chris of MOW for many bright ideas and suggestion and most importantly your gauntlet ... each of you are so kind and supportive and have been an inspiration to me... my checklist gets enriched every day... my notes are getting to the right direction... thank you all and of course wishing TK9135 to get your project start smoothly here
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    Feb 16, 2010, 7:10 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #3

    Kinda a wild response...

    Ill take that as a positive...

    My main point was (maybe I worded it wrong) what parts of Fett are not that important to accuracy that can slide from the top end stuff?
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    Feb 16, 2010, 8:18 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #4

    All depends on your budget really if you want to set a budget then go from there...theres ways to spend less by shopping around the cargo hold instead of buying new. Painting yourself will for sure save money. And I see your in Japan Ill be moving to Okinawa this summer! Hope to have my fett done before i move too
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    Feb 16, 2010, 2:14 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #5

    Quote TK-9135 said: View Post

    My main point was (maybe I worded it wrong) what parts of Fett are not that important to accuracy that can slide from the top end stuff?
    you'll find that when you start you think you'll get something that's good enough, then the obsession kicks in and you push more and more toward perfect.
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    Feb 16, 2010, 3:36 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #6

    one popular "troopability" thing is hinged gauntlets vs. velcro.

    using hinges makes it easier to get in/out of them, and prevents the paint (and plastic!) from cracking under repeated stresses.

    jetpack hooks / harness are another one... the accurate harnesses are almost completely covered by the vest, so many people opt to leave that out.

    the shin tools are barely seen, so it's debatable whether it's worth getting the accurate found items vs. a resin kit.

    overall, using original found parts is of minimal reward compared to reproductions... the various calculator and turntable parts are all wel replicated.
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    Feb 17, 2010, 6:36 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #7

    That is the info I seek... Cool. Thanks man.

    I understand the obsession, but lately I have an aversion to spending gobs on stuff that is not really that needed. I tossed 70 bucks on a set of Vader lights that I later found for 15. Yeesh. However I am aiming to be as accurate as I can. Interesting on the harness. I still need to look up the ref on that.
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    Feb 17, 2010, 7:02 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #8

    Fettdad makes a great "budget" harness. I think he's still making them. I bought one a while ago and it works perfectly. Good luck on your Fett!
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    Feb 17, 2010, 9:17 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #9

    Maybe even concentrate on things you shouldn't scrimp on, and go top notch that are accurate and wearable??

    1) Helmet - the jewel of the Costume
    2) JetPack - Completes the costume
    3) Armor - The main focus

    Just a start....
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    Feb 17, 2010, 9:54 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #10

    Quote Lucksy31 said: View Post
    Maybe even concentrate on things you shouldn't scrimp on, and go top notch that are accurate and wearable??

    1) Helmet - the jewel of the Costume
    2) JetPack - Completes the costume
    3) Armor - The main focus

    Just a start....
    Fettpride makes a really nice cheap "budget" helmet thats really nice but Cheap. Also makes armor thats affordable, man of war makes gauntlets and jetpack that are pretty affordable also. Just for the most cost effective option going new that is...
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    Feb 18, 2010, 6:07 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #11

    Thanks guys.

    As far as hard parts.. I think i have a build under way that is top notch. I agree that the hard parts are the focus on this costume. Stuff like the harness and such.. I kinda get that you dont see it and it is something you can save on.

    How about shin tools? Important detail or save on them?
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    Feb 18, 2010, 10:14 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #12

    I would say you can spend 95 on boba makers replicas, buy the squeegee and make your own its 40 the stirrer is 10 and then you need some xacto knives and plastic...its almost worth buying the replica and having it that way. I guess it depends on ur skill with plastic too. I have some sintra shin tools i got used from a guy here for 20 bucks so theyre not hella acurate but theyll pass for now the survival knife looks great and so does the anti security blade...and the JP tool the sonic beam weapon is the part thats not really doing it for me but you barely see it in the pocket and probably wouldnt notice. But in the end one day ill get a real paterson squeegee and make it more authentic
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    Feb 18, 2010, 2:40 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #13

    One word... Thong... don't know why it's there and it is the only part of the costume that i don't wear i public (or otherwise)... i get my butt cheeks pinched enough as it is (some girls just can't keep their hands of the fett) with out people trying to pull the thong as well..
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    Feb 18, 2010, 2:52 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #14

    Well personal for me its accurate all the way. But beneath your accurate skin needs to be a tight and professional build-up. It has to fit good and all parts should stay on like they should.
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    Feb 18, 2010, 11:45 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #15

    If you need info about tips for trooping then I'm gonna go ahead and say that in my opinion, you should make it all proper and all accurate. Looks like the info you want to know is more about attaching armor, and how to get out of your suit faster correct? What parts you can change for better trooping? You mentioned the weight of your vader. So, realy you should look into JP options and find out how to get yours as lite as you can. It's about the material, not the accuracy. Your JP should be accurate regardless. Most things on the Fett set up are all gonna weigh similar from one manufacturer to another, so getting it to weigh less isn't gonna be super easy. Like boots and gloves and flight suits are all gonna be about the same weight. Fetts cape is a canvas type material and isn't heavy. Sintra armor is super light. I would use sew on metal buttons for your armor, they are durable, light and you could pop your armor off easily.
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    Feb 19, 2010, 3:49 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #16

    Weight does not really bother me all that much. It is a concern with kids around, tugging on you and such but nothing I cant handle. I do get tired, but trooping makes you tired. Costumes like Vader and Fett are instant hits and require lots of energy. I am looking at this build to be as accurate as possible, but also work. I read here that the movie suit had the studs on the back attach to the suit, but Velcro works just fine. Those are tips that I am looking for. The studs are still there, but the suit is better worn. Accuracy is a bug that bites hard, and this time.. Really, I dont want to build the costume twice or more. I want to nail it out of the gate with trooping and canon in mind.

    What is the thong?
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    Feb 19, 2010, 6:18 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #17

    Quote Boba Swede said: View Post
    One word... Thong... don't know why it's there and it is the only part of the costume that i don't wear i public (or otherwise)... i get my butt cheeks pinched enough as it is (some girls just can't keep their hands of the fett) with out people trying to pull the thong as well..
    Funny!

    Now I have a different issue with the thong. I have no butt! (I know, I need to work out the glutes) So the thong keeps my jumpsuit from looking too baggy back there. Either way, its hard to tell because of the jetpack being the focus on the back.
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    Feb 19, 2010, 1:01 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #18

    Yeah.. I've never seen a thong for sale on here... please tell me you guys aren't runnin down to VS and picking up something there?! oh lord.....
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    Feb 19, 2010, 1:13 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #19

    The thong refers to a piece of elastic that goes from the cod piece, up the butt crack and hooks on the other side. It's on the outside of the jumpsuit, so it gives a visible "thong" look.
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    Feb 19, 2010, 5:05 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #20

    Noted. So I take it its uncomfortable. Plastic up the butt is not something that instills comfort... LOL
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    Feb 19, 2010, 8:07 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #21

    Little hot in the Helmet with all the layer too And thats just from wearing the layers for the first time today...
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    Feb 20, 2010, 2:43 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #22

    Vader is one hot costume. Even with fans and such. The Fett helmet looks like there is no room or need for fans however. I stumbled across a thread about the helmet skirt. Is this ESB?
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    Feb 20, 2010, 4:20 AM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #23

    Hey!
    I have a Vader too, and let me tell ya' Vader is ridiculously hot even with fans and the weight is just nuts. Compared to Fett, I'll wear my Fett any day, other than the fact that I simply love the costume but the comfort is FAR better.
    I was hit by a drunk driver in 2006, have several herniated discks in my neck and back, alot of permanent pain, and the Fett feels SO much better than Vader. I could wear Fett, comfortibly for A LONG time and not have an issue, whereas with Vader, 2 hours and I'm starting to hurt. lol On Halloween this year, I wore my Fett - with a non-supportive jetpack harness - for over 6 hours straight and the only thing that gave me a bit of an issue was the harness on my shoulders. But that's fixed now that I have a 100% accurate steel jetpack harness from BFUK and MojoFett, AND I have another backup harness form FettDad which is set up the same way, with support all around as opposed to just having the pack hang off your shoulders. I'll be able to troop in it pretty much as long as I feel like it and my only issue will be when I have to use the bathroom. LOL

    As far as the topic, I went for as dead on accuracy as possible, and then when I worked the outfit to fit me, I worked it to be as comfortible as possible without sacrificing accuracy and it works fantastic!

    Good luck!

    J
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    Feb 25, 2010, 7:30 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #24

    Hey DP74 - I'm glad you confirmed my suspictions about the comfort factor. I've put together a Vader suit too and decided to switch to Boba mainly for wearability's sake. If I ever feel the need to lose a few extra pounds, there's no need to run or jog - I just put on the Vader suit for a couple of hours and lose 10 pounds in sweat just standing still! I'm not far enough along in with my Boba to know firsthand, but it's GOT to be more comfortable than Vader. I know that the jetpack is gonna feel heavy after a while and the knees are probably gonna slip around a fair bit, but there's no tight leather bodysuit, no real need for helmet fans since the bottom of the lid naturally allows decent airflow, no heavy wool robe and cape, and the element I am most looking forward to: no knee high boots with uncomfortable lifts in them. It's nice to have a little more visibility in the Fett helmet, too - going down stairs is SO much easier when you can see your feet!

    Now granted, the natural high of being Vader for a few hours is well worth the physical discomfort, but if Boba is more comfortable while still turning just as many hands and making as many kids smile (or more!), then my Vader is staying on a mannequin from here on in!
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    Feb 25, 2010, 9:58 PM - Re: Accuracy Vs Wearablity #25

    Ain't it the truth!
    The Jetpack, if you go with ABS, will be really light, even the fiberglass one I have, and the entire outfit is considerably light compared to Vader. I've never had to wear lifts, being 6 foot 5 myself.
    As far as the kneepads, just slap some velcro on them to the flightsuit and they won't move a bit. I got my entire Fett from BobaMaker, and all of my hardparts are fiberglass and even that is leaps and bounds much more managable than Vader! LOL With the Fett helmet, there's a ton more visibility! It makes a huge difference when you don't have to look through the chin-vent to see the little one sinfront of you! Also, you can fit fans, even with the skirt should you opt to go that route.
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy wearing Vader A LOT, but Fett....I donno....just something about the character that commands a much more effective aura - probably because there's still that mystery about him, and at this p oint everyone knows all there is to know about Vader.

    J

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