3D ESB sidearm

I love how 3D printing is taking the replica community by storm. Not very unexpected of course, but exciting!

However, you might want to add the number 40 instead, since that would be the right number. The pulce 60 is identical in shape and look, but has a much longer body than the pulce 40 that was used.

I believe Spideyfett's sidearm is from Mojofett, which mine also is, and it is made (handle is cast) from a pulce 60. The tube in the kit was simply cut down to the right length of the 40, but there is no way to change the cast in number on the handle.

Awesome. I was just thinking about doing something like this for the Nemrod holster yesterday. I just read in Popular Mechanics that there is a website that will convert photos of an object into 3d files for printing. You take 20 photos at different angles, upload them and then use the program to clean up and edit. It's supposed to be free but I haven't checked it out yet. You look like you're off to a great start though. Are you going to make these files available to everyone?

I don't know about 3d printers much, but that sounds like an awesome project! looking forward to seeing the results.

I, too, love that 3D printers are becoming a prop building tool. I can't wait to see the outcome and I really hope you do a run of them!

Thanks for the comments guys! And thank you Locitus for the information about the 40 number! I didn't realize pluce 60 was a close sister model to the original movie pluce 40. When I complete the model (to the best of my ability) I will try to upload the OBJ file of it so anyone on these forums can download it should they find themselves in the same opportunity as me (or if they want to modify my model to make it more to their liking).

After the sidearm is complete I will move on to the ROTJ blaster rifle. Schools been keeping me busy though so I don't know if I'll have time to model the ESB rifle as well during this time but if the demand is high enough for the OBJ files I will definitely work on it!

I'll keep you guys posted!

do you have any plans to do a run of them?

hmm... I'd have to talk to the facility but I suppose it's possible... I'd have to print off one to see how well they hold up. If people are interested (and the 3D print is stable) post your interest in this thread and I'll talk to the guy who manages the printers about it. I'm thinking of 5 for a possible run but nothing is certain at the moment.

I DON'T WANT TO GET ANYONE'S HOPES UP. There's still a strong chance the guy will say no but I will try. And again I will have the OBJ file available for downloading completely free for anyone who can print it elsewhere or if you just wanna play with it on a 3D program or something.

Update on the blaster: the shape is pretty much done. I just need to make the "40" and the Pluce logo thing on the sides.

Interested! hopes are not up.


much.

:-)

Definitely interested.

OK so poncho and wes7 are interested. The labs where I print this thing are opened this coming week. I'll have an update on whether the guy managing the printers is OK with printing multiple copies or not. I hope he says yes.

I'd be interested as well. Any idea how much it would cost if the guy says yes?

Yeah price would definitely determine my final decision. Stormrider was going to do a run but I'm not sure when that'll end up happening because he is recovering from surgery. So if the price is reasonable and the final product is good then you'll have tons of interest

I'm hoping I can make it for $130 (US) per sidearm. But, again, this is assuming things are ok and that works for the facilities I use (I've heard a lot of places charge 3D print materials by the cubic centimeter so bigger objects are crazy expensive). Does that sound reasonable for you guys?

As an update: got the Pluce logo on it.



I know it's a bit hard to make out (still working in low poly to reduce issues) but smoothed out it looks a lot better. I'll get smooth images that will be what the print SHOULD look like after I make the "40" on the side. I don't think the 40 will be as hard to figure out so it should definitely be ready by the time the labs are up and running again this coming week!

Did you do this all in maya? I have a copy of it from work but never really used it because it looks really complicated. Can you recommend any good beginner/reference books, I would love to learn it.

Hey Jc27. Yes I use maya (I have version 2013). As far as resources I have used, I mostly use digitaltutors.com. However, it cost monthly to access it (I only use it for now because my school gives students free access to it).

A lot of times I go to youtube or google if I'm stuck on something. cgsociety.org is also a good (and free) resource as well. Hope this helps.

Thanks man, I will have to check those.

Ok. I got the 40 on the blaster and smoothed it out to show more or less what it should look like when I take it to the 3D printer.



Also, I'm having difficulty figuring out how to post the OBJ files to this forum so people can download it... is there anyone who knows how (and if) I can do that? Thanks!

Upload the file to a site like rapid share! Then just post the download link.

Looks amazing by the way

Thanks Wes7. First post has updated. Anyone who wants to download it and play around with the 3D model in maya, 3DS Max, or any other 3D software you may do so! If you have access to a 3D printer yourself and want to print it out I recommend the "High polygon" version.

PLEASE NOTE. I have not established size yet with the files (3D printers require that). If you take the file make sure to adjust it accordingly because there is a strong chance that it's gonna print either too big or too small at this point. I'll let you guys know when I've adjusted that part. Otherwise it's ready to go more or less.

To see more of my work, visit my blog: jonathanpezzatta.blogspot.com

You did a great job so far!

As for the file upload, one of the ways is to archive the OBJ file in ZIP format and then use the 'Insert Image' option above the text box.

Keep up the amazing work!

Wow! Thanks RafalFett. I hope I can make more 3D props in the future. You and everyone else on the forums have helped me so much with my Fett build, this is the least I could do to give back to the Fett community.

Quick update: I talked with one of the members of the facility I'm going to print my blaster. He's not so sure he they will be able to print multiple blasters... However there are sites online that print objects from 3D files you give them and ship it to you! I'll have more information (as well as a correctly sized blaster file) later this week.

This is awesome, thanks for sharing. Im going to have a go at printing this tonight

If your interested we have started a group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/opensourceprops/ the open source costume and prop alliance. Not limited to SW, its premise is similar to open source software where collaboration and sharing of models is encouraged.


Also, im 50% of the way through modeling an EE-3 I was just stuck on the proper dimensions as there seems to be a few references. I will post something up shortly.

Thanks aprilstorm! I sent a request to be part of the group.

April storm, PM sidewinder and I'm sure he'll give you measurements. He's a great guy.

I sliced up your hi poly model and its on the print bed now... I have a feeling looking at it thats its a tad on the big side so may need to print it again. I can only print in ABS plastic at 0.4mm vertical density, and its probably a 10+ hour print run.

I can post pictures when its done but dont want to de-rail your thread. let me know if thats ok.

Also since you went to all the trouble of making this model, which is actually pretty good btw (most stuff I get from is far from solid) if you do have problems getting it printed Im happy to work something out if you just want to pay for consumables and postage

No it's OK. I made this thread to give back to fellow Fett heads! Sometimes it takes more than 1 to make things happen. Hope your print goes well.

Blaster update: I'm consulting with a buddy of mine tomorrow to further optimize the sidearm size and format for printing tomorrow. Hopefully I will update the obj file then!

Turned out pretty well, though I think its a bit big, so I will probably use it for my custom mando as a side arm.

wow April! That's awesome! I'm so glad it came out well (it looks fantastic). I'm having trouble obtaining any clue as to proper dimensions for this sidearm... all I need is one accurate measurement of something (tip of the blaster to the back end, length of the barrel,...) and the rest should scale accordingly.

Any information would help a ton as I would really like to print this thing when I go to the facilities tomorrow.

I have a real Nemrod holster so I'll take a measurement from about where the back sits to how far the tip sticks out based on reference. I'll post my results so you'll have a good idea how to size it.

April, in an earlier post you mentioned the Facebook group that uses open source 3D software. Are you familiar with Blender? I had a version of it a few years ago but gave up trying to learn it. If you have any pointers, that would be awesome.
JC

Personally I use Sketchup Pro, with an addon that helps with solids. I find it much easier to model in, but organic shapes like this blaster are really hard to do in it, it tends to be better with more hard corners etc.

Never used blender, I have it, but havent tried. I started using sketchup only about 3 months ago so its easy to learn

That turned out great. Lots of guys here have 1:1 copies of this thing. Maybe somebody could offer up some measurements? It would be greatly appreciated.

I just scaled the grip so it would fit my hand, but it still looks kinda big to me compared to something like an E-11

Hey Wes7! I appreciate the assist. The sooner I can get accurate (or relative) measurements the better. Today me and a buddy are getting together to optimize the 3D file. If I could get measurements today that'd be awesome!

Here are some measurements based on my own scaling factors (I just hope that someone will confirm if these are the correct values or not):



(image taken by Art Andrews of his own Technisub Pulce 40)

RafalFett you save the day once again. Thanks buddy!

Originally Posted by Archaster777

RafalFett you save the day once again. Thanks buddy!

I say wait until someone will confirm if these are the correct values or not... So, who will be the first to provide (or confirm) the much needed measurements?

Ill measure when I get home...

Thanks Fett 4 Real. I appreciate it.

Unfortunately I was unable to print my blaster today (work got in the way) ... However, I may be able to get to it Thursday hopefully.

Thank you for the measurements intwenothor. is the long measurements based on the image provided by RafalFett or from the very tip to the very back of the blaster? I know it'd be nice to get measurements of a real pluce 40 spear gun (I pm'd a guy who is said to have one but never heard back...) but as long as it's a good size and fits in a nemrod holster it's ok with me.

The measurements I have given are my measurements of a pulce 40 so Raf states 310mm on his diagram and this measurement is 294mm on my actual pulce and the same for the other measurement of the tube ( the tube measurement might not be exact as I still can't find my calipers ) but the long measurement should be spot on.

Andy

Live dream etc

When I scaled it to fit my hand, I ended up with a 310mm body, actually the dimensions are almost exact to rafalfett's. As I said it kinda looked big, but if it used to be some sort of scuba gun I guess that explains it.

I actually sliced up the model into 7 parts so it could print nicely without any complex overhangs on a simple reprap like mine. I will upload it if you think that will help. Its in .STL format, which most open source slicers seem to want.

I'm in the process of adding a few additional details of the model. I'll be able to make an STL file of it when it is completed.

My real Nemrod holster is 393mm at its longest points.

I will, just got home last night and forgot, goto to cooking and working on a helmet commission stuff

I really appreciate all your help guys! Thank you all!

Originally Posted by RafalFett

Using the measurement provided by Wes7 (393mm as the longest part of the Nemrod holster), the 294mm length and 48mm diameter (provided by intwenothor) seems the correct value, which means that the approximated measurements provided by me was bigger with 5%. I hope F4R will confirm these values.

Just to clarify the measurements were taken from a real pulce 40 that I was holding in my hands when I took the measurements.

This is amazing.....well done mate.

Added rivets along the cap of the blaster. I noticed that a lot of replicas had them that I didn't notice before. Is this accurate or was it smooth (I have both files so I can smooth it back if need be)?

Also, here is a chart of measurements I'm trying to gather. I figure the best way is to average any and all sizes of actual pluce 40's that people have so Here are the sections I would need measured.

1.) Overall Longest measurement of the body as a whole.
2.) Length of the main cylinder.
3.) Circumference of the main cylinder.
4.) Length of the butt of the handle.

So far here are measurements so far:

1.) 393mm (Wes7)
2.) 310mm (RafalFett), 294 (actual pluce by Intwenothor)
3.) 50mm (RafalFett),
4.)N/A

I PM'd BuckarooTrooper who also has an actual pluce 40 as well. Hopefully I'll hear back some time this weekend from him.

I'm out of town but can get these when I get back.

Glad to help.

DeWayne

294+ or - a mm or so is spot on

Arch, measurement number one could vary quite abit dependent on how loosely or tightly the tip is screwed on.

Thanks for the tip Intwenothor. I'll focus more so on measurement 2. Is the rivets along the cap of the blaster more accurate or should it stay smooth like before?

I'm not sure what you mean by rivets, please can you clarify?

Andy

Originally Posted by Archaster777

So far here are measurements so far:

1.) 393mm (Wes7)
2.) 310mm (RafalFett), 294 (actual pluce by Intwenothor)
3.) 50mm (RafalFett),
4.)N/A

Number 1. is wrong! Wes7 said that he measured the Nemrod holster's (not the sidearm) longest part and the result was 393mm, but mostly because of this:

Originally Posted by intwenothor

Arch, measurement number one could vary quite abit dependent on how loosely or tightly the tip is screwed on.

I used an image with both the holster and the sidearm to confirm intwenothor's measurement (294mm) to be correct. So my length of 310mm posted in that image is actually 294mm and the diameter is not 50mm, but 48mm. The handle base length gived me 70-72mm:

Ah OK. My bad Wes7 (I misinterpreted your measurements).

By rivets, I mean I added indented groves into the cap on the front of the blaster where the laser should come out (I'm terrible at gun terminology). Is it accurate to have those? I know a lot of replicas have then but I could've sworn I've seen some smooth like how I had it when Aprilstorm printed it...

First Post updated.

I sized the figure to the real pluce 40 measurements. However, I know Aprilstorm said it was a bit large but to get the real measurements I had to actually scale the model up a bit so I'm not sure what's up with that. The new OBJ and STL file are available but until I'm absolutely sure it's going to work UPLOAD AND PRINT AT YOUR OWN RISK!

I also kept the grooves in since I saw that it was on the in movie picture as well. Hopefully I'll get pics up later.

Hey Archaster,

Would there be a problem with me turning these files into a pepakura development. If so I will make it available to all who dare to try it. I was going to try and model it and then here this thread popped up. If you are against I will not proceed using your file and will work up my own.

Not at all man. My only request is to properly credit my work on it. I put this up so you and others of the dented helmet to use it as they please as a way to give back to the community that has helped me so much with my Fett thus far.

You can see more of my work at Jonathan Pezzatta

I have another question. Is the main body of the gun actually cylindrical or is it oval? I have seen some reference images that it appears to be oval and not a perfectly round cylinder.

Originally Posted by t_bone9600

I have another question. Is the main body of the gun actually cylindrical or is it oval? I have seen some reference images that it appears to be oval and not a perfectly round cylinder.

It's oval just like Arch's model.

Hmmmm. The model I downloaded is circular when I open it.

Originally Posted by t_bone9600

Hmmmm. The model I downloaded is circular when I open it.

Oh woops my bad then. I thought it looked oval from the pics he posted. I haven't actually looked at the model.

But yeah the pulce 40 has an oval shape to my knowledge.

Originally Posted by t_bone9600

I have another question. Is the main body of the gun actually cylindrical or is it oval? I have seen some reference images that it appears to be oval and not a perfectly round cylinder.

As Wes7 said, the barrel has an oval and not round cylinder form and looking at aprilstorm's printed sidearm using Archaster777's files (quick jump here ==> 3D ESB sidearm - Post #28) the barell looks oval to me. But it seems that Arch forget to upload the correct file?

Aluminium cylinder is definitely oval.

As to the ' rivets' at the end mine has some grooves on the fat ring of the emitter but not the ultimate end. The grooves are very slight. Very fine indeed.

Ah gotcha my bad. I should be able to fix that really quick. If the grooves are very slight it may be beneficial to leave it smooth and scratch those groves in after the print. Thanks for the info guys! I'll fix it and let you guys know when the new model is ready!

First post updated. Sorry it took so long (school's been kicking my butt).

Is a run of these a possibility? Great job by the way on the detail.

As much as I'd like to... the facilities available to me can't even support a blaster I would've liked to print for myself. Though if you know anyone who has one or if you have one yourself, you can download the file provided.

I do know "shape ways" allows you to upload and make 3D prints you can buy there but I'd have to hollow it out (otherwise it'd be over $500 because they charge by the cubic centimeter). It would be the best I can do. The advantage to buying it from there is that you can choose whether to print it in plastic, metal, gold, etc... I'll look into optimizing my file for that site to keep cost low though it's hard to say until they process it. Fingers crossed

I finally got around to painting and finishing the blaster: I kinda had to wing it on the colour mixing coper with brown and then airbrushing and used a mixtue of pewter and silver rubnbuff for the metal finish.



Also, I may regret making this offer, but I may be able to print this for people who are after it, I live in Australia so postage (and lack of time) is likely to be our only issue. But I will only print these for others once we solve some issues with the current model and Archester gets his copy first.

That is a nice looking piece, great job April.

Wish I had a 3d printer! Anyone in the states with one want to do a run? Your work is fantastic Arch!

sorry it's taking so long to make this guys... (I definitely want one myself ). Unfortunately all my efforts are towards graduating from college this week but once things settle down I will take the time to really sit down and optimize the file and make it functional so that April and everyone on the dented helmet can use the file however they wish!

Thank you all for your patience and understanding!

Awesome work

really good work man

These look great. I'd be interested in a printed copy if the price was right.

i dont know if this will be much help but here it goes:

Hey all.

Sorry for the delay (things got crazy at the end of the semester), but I'm all done with school so I was able to take a look at my file to correct some issues. Unfortunately, for 3D printing, 3DS Max has better STL file exports than Maya does. However, for whatever reason 3DS Max isn't starting for me so I am unable to export one myself... Here is the OBJ file however if someone else can do this until I can resolve my issues with 3DS Max.

http://rapidshare.com/files/66917751...chaster777.obj

This is looking really good now, I can work with this new file just fine and have successfully converted it into a printable STL. However, I will slice it up further so it will print more efficently on a domestic 3D printer.

I usually upload the models I make to thingiverse to share as it renders everything nicely: About AprilStorm - Thingiverse

But seeing as this is your design Archaster, Could I ask you to upload the STLs I produce from your model under your name? It would mean setting up an account on thingiverse.

Sizing. Its very very close to the references. The length is virtually spot on.



Also nice addition with the oval shape:

Excellent job from both of you, Arch and April! I love seeing group works done professionally!

Good to see this posted up on thingiverse: Boba Fett Empire Strikes Back Sidearm by Archaster777 - Thingiverse