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    Well, I am nearing completion on my lid, or so I think... So I thought I would move right along to the chest armor I aquired a month or so ago from another member here. I don't have any pictures of what I started with, but it was ROUGH and after 2 hours with a belt sander, here's where I am:
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    I started with the Left chest LED hole's. I printed out a scaled LED template and Raf's templates for placement and shape. After cutting the holes, I went to fine tuning the shape. I have marked it where I plan to add dents with a heat gun. This will be an ESB set, so if you see any inaccuracies, please let me know! Here's the pic's.

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    wow talk about sanding! Keep up the good work!

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    I spent a couple more hours with the dremel and marked where the dents will go. Should have the dents completed and a coat of primer by the end of the weekend. Let me know what y'all think about the shapes of the pieces.photo-1-jpgphoto-2-jpgphoto-3-jpg

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    Its looking good so far, very clean looking

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    Fettwho- Thanks for the vote of confidence. I've been studying the reference photos, Raf's stencils, and WOF templates to try to get the shapes correct before applying the dents.

    I am picking up a new heat gun today and hopefully will have time to apply dents this evening. Anybody have a suggestion for creating the three circle dents in the ab plate? They look to be perfect circles. Just want to get this detail correct.

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    You're doing an awesome job here (too)! The 3 circles are perfect circles and are there on the abdominal plate from the early Supertrooper project. You can achieve the circles by simply drilling 3 holes and then fill the inside of the ab plate. And for the dents, here is a thread where I already posted some files for the ESB armor dent placements ==> Armor Dent Placement.

    I hope this helps!

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    Raf- That means a lot to me, that you approve of my work thus far! Thanks for the link to the dents. Very helpful, as there were a couple I had missed. Good idea on the 3 circles, I will do exactly that!

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    So I followed Raf's advise for the 3 holes on the ab plate. 1st, I printed the ab stencil from Raf's armor stencils and cut it out. Then I took a hole punch and punched a hole in a scrap piece of paper and overlaid it to make sure it was the correct size. Luckily, it was perfect. Then I took my drill bits and sized them to the hole punch. 1/4" is pretty close to perfect. I over laid the stencil and marked the holes with dots, as I had already hand sketched the circles. I was amazed at how close I was! Then I just drilled out the holes and will putty over them from the backside tonight.

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    Excellent work on the holes! Instead of putty you can try to glue a piece of sintra or something similar from the inside.
    Keep up the great work!

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    Raf- Thanks! I will follow your advise again, and glue a piece on the back. Hoping to find time for dents this afternoon. The family has me pretty busy today!
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    Today I have been looking for good pics of the ab plate, to find out whether or not the 3 holes were rounded or sharp. They look to be pretty sharp. However, in looking through the ESB Gallery pics, I found what appears to be light coming from them. Is it possible that there was a light behind them at one time? My apologies if this has already been discussed.

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    Raf- I thought I found a post where you had a picture of a speaker behind the ab plate. Can't seem to locate it at the moment.

    Thoughts?

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    Lookin good, I don't think you will have any problem putting together a nice EE-3 after seeing this.


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    Chris- Thanks for the support! I figure I'm off to the JP after the armor. Then on to that EE-3. I hope I can do as nice a job as you did! As soon as I'm finished, I'm headed to the Alamo!

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    Haha right on! Are u in the SA area? If u need help with anything just let me know also totally down to join u at the Alamo



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    No, I'm in the Fort Worth area, but my brother in law lives down there so we come down a fair bit.

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    dechels said: View Post
    Today I have been looking for good pics of the ab plate, to find out whether or not the 3 holes were rounded or sharp. They look to be pretty sharp. However, in looking through the ESB Gallery pics, I found what appears to be light coming from them. Is it possible that there was a light behind them at one time? My apologies if this has already been discussed.

    ab-lights-jpg
    The holes shines because it was painted with metallic silver and it reflects light. There are no artificial lights (lamps/LEDs) in the holes.

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    Raf- I thought I found a post where you had a picture of a speaker behind the ab plate. Can't seem to locate it at the moment.

    Thoughts?
    The speaker was present and functional on the Supertrooper abdominal plate. Later this suit was painted and dented, giving birth to the Pre-Pro #1 suit. We can see the same abdominal plate on the Pre-Pro #2 suit too (this was in the fall of 1978), and about 4 years later this abdominal plate was repainted (again) in the ROTJ paint scheme, more exactly one of the ROTJ Stunt plates (now part of the ROTJ SE suit), but it seems that the speaker was removed from this plate (?) and placed inside the ROTJ Hero plate (this plate is the repainted ESB Hero abdominal plate).

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    Raf- thanks for the quick response and explanation! I knew i had seen that picture somewhere before, just couldn't seem to find it. Now I can move on and get these finished up.

    By the way, I also noticed in the freeze chamber sequence, he has his knees are on upside down. I'm sure someone has s'pointed this out before, just thought it was interesting.
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    There are 3 different knee 'incidents' in Empire: in one scene he wears the knees inverted, in another scene he's wearing two right knees (the one on the left leg is the Pre-Pro #3 knee); the first two images are from the hallway scene, while in the carbon chamber scene, the one noticed by you, is with the knees upside down.

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    Raf- You are unbelievable!!! I pride my self in being a pretty knowledgeable Star Wars guy, but you are truly a scholar! I count myself blessed to have you on my team!

    I got my new heat gun fired up and added the dents to the armor today. I also picked up some Celtec today, thanks for the recommendation lpitcher23, to make the shoulder bells and knees out of.
    Going to lay some primer and metallic silver tonight!

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    Good job with the dents and the dent positions on the plates! Keep up the excellent work!

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    What tool did you use to make the dents? Did you heat up a metal instrument and then press into plates?
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    Raf- thanks bud. I really appreciate your help with this!

    Josh- I used a heat gun on the low setting so I didn't over heat or burn the plastic. Heat it till it starts to get a gloss to it. Then for most of them, I used a cone shaped grinding bit for my dremel. This bit worked well in my opinion because it gave the dents a little texture. You have to be very careful to support the plate from the back side so you don't warp the plate and get only the desired dent. I tried a couple different methods, but ultimately put on some thick leather gloves so I didn't burn my fingers and just used my hands. For the large square dent on the left chest plate, I used a metal architectural scale, but I'm sure you could use flat head screw driver. I just looked for something to give me a defined line within the dent. Just take your time. You might have to reheat the area a couple times to get the desired result. Hope this helps.
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    I tried to upload progress pics yesterday, but the upload manager wasn't working for me. So here's the one pic I took yesterday.
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    Last night I misplaced my phone for a bit so I missed the yellow, dark grey, and hunt club green pics. While I was waiting for the paint to dry, I cut out the weathering spots in the chest decal I got from Lucksy. Here's the pic's with decal applied and liquid mask removed.
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    The armor paint job is awesome and the weathered decal too! Keep up the excellent work!

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    Raf- thanks for the continued support and kind words. Your templates really make this manageable! Thanks for sharing those with us!

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